turningpoint Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Bengals running back Chris Perry averaged 7.9 per carry on his seven attempts Sunday night against the Jaguars. That's impressive, and watching him that night, he looked every bit as good as that number. The problem is he doesn't get enough carries playing behind Rudi Johnson, who had eight rushes for 76 yards against the Jaguars. So should Perry be getting more attempts? The feeling here is that he should, and it's a sentiment echoed by one Jaguars defender. "To me, he's better than Rudi," said the player. "He's quicker. He has more pop." Perry was a first-round pick last year, and didn't do much as a rookie. Perry had just two carries for 1 yard and three receptions for 33 yards in 2004. He then had surgery to repair a sports hernia in January and had a follow-up surgery on that same area this spring. That led to questions about him. But he has impressed this season, rushing for 121 yards on 26 attempts. His per-carry average of 4.7 is better than Johnson's 4.2, but Johnson has carried it 110 times, while Perry has just 26. Perry has also caught 18 passes for 140 yards. Johnson rushed for a team record 1,454 yards last season, and the Bengals gave him a five-year, $26 million contract. That will make it awfully hard for Perry to take over as the feature back, but there is no doubt he has more explosiveness than Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 I believe if the Bengals had been certain that Perry was going to be healthy this year Rudi wouldnt have been signed to a 5 year contract.I too believe that Perry should get more carries... He'll have to earn it ...he seems to be doing that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 To repeat what I posted elsewhere...So far, Chris Perry has done pretty damn well. Consider that last year, Kenny Watson's combined rushing and receiving yards were 332 (161 rush/171 catch) for the whole year. Chris Perry will likely surpass that sometime in the next two games; he's currently at 261 yards (121/140). Watson had 51 touches last season; Perry's had 44, putting him on course to carry or catch the ball about 130 or 140 times this season.The interesting thing is that this isn't taking away from Rudi. He's touched the ball 117 times so far, which puts him on course to come close to his '05 number of touches (376). Rudi has 484 combined yards (464/20), which also projects out close to his 1,538 total yards from last year.In sum, last year our No. 1 and 2 backs produced 1,870 yards. Thanks to Perry, that total looks to be on the order of 2,300 this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 These guys will become more of a deadly duo when they learn how to block better allowing more 2 back sets. Right now we are forced to run a lot of 2 TE sets when are not at all deceiving since they are mostly blockers with Schobel catching a few.I think our 2 RB's in the backfield would really keep 'em guessing, but they are currently a liability blocking...even safeties and corners.I don't think Perry is better because I don't know that he could handle the pounding for a full game...but I'd kinda like to see them try. I'd also like to see them run Jeremi more around the endzone...over the top...pound through the middle...he's pretty athletic for a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Man, I wish I remember how they looked on Sunday night. Either way, I think they still have some work to do to get them in the backfield at the same time and confuse defenses. I think once that gets working, we will see the real capabilities of this offense, and hopefully, the offensive success will help pump up the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Until Perry proves he can carry it 25 times a game for a full season I am inclined to think Rudi's the better over-all back still.That said Rudi sure looks like he's going through the motions some times, and almost seems to be suffering from Dillon syndrome here, where he just gets mentally worn down by the 0-line which is not helping them often, and turns his back to the defense and gives up on contact.I watched last week's game again last night and I can say that Guy-check is terrible - on the 4th and 1 play he was shoved, literally, 3 yards into the backfield. On another play where Palmer was smacked early on, he was tossed aside like a rag doll and Levi just got beat and had to hold his man to avoid him tagging Palmer from behind - and got flagged for it. Watching Guy-check - it's obvious he lacks upper body strength and will need a few years to be any good, if ever. If I'm the Bengals I'm worried about next year's o-line, and how they will hold up the rest of this year.Perry's done a great job this year and I hope they get him more involved with time - ecspecially if Rudi isn't giving them a consistent effort, and can't overcome a poor o-line with speed or elusiveness like Perry can.Rudi can be unstoppable when given just enough push upfront to get past the LOS and run downhill on people. I saw Perry get lambasted in the backfield on one or two of his few carries as well just like Rudi - they both have their roles in which they are most effective.But that doesn't mean Perry can't be an effective feature back some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 I like what Perry brings to the table, but i think he needs Rudi to be as good as he has been. Rudi pounds it up the middle, which wears down the defense. Perry bounces, but with the way the O-line run blocks, a lot of his plays could go for a loss (over the course of 20-25 carries). I like the duo as its run now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 The way Rudi and Perry were used today was perfect (except on the short yardage plays). Rudi needs to get at least a good 17 carries, and Perry needs 10 or so touches, and they did that today for great success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I like what Perry brings to the table, but i think he needs Rudi to be as good as he has been. Rudi pounds it up the middle, which wears down the defense. Perry bounces, but with the way the O-line run blocks, a lot of his plays could go for a loss (over the course of 20-25 carries). I like the duo as its run now.That "wears down defenses" arguement is tired. Perry actually is probly just as good at wearing down defenses because he makes them run a lot more. With Rudi you know where he is going to be, Perry could end up anywhere.I agree with that jags defender.Also, stop this doubting Perry can carry it 25 times a game, he did it at Michigan, and is big enough to do it here. Last year was 1 injury that because of our crappy medical staff took the entire season to be diagnosed right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I agree with that jags defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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