I think we lose if Chris Brown gets 100 yds.

[turningpoint]

He hasn't had a 100 yd game yet, If chris brown gashes us, we'll be playing from behind, and were going to lose this game.

We hold him, we win.

[Section 310]

That will require our outside linebackers and safeties to be able to stop the frigin' cutbacks. It was embarassing last week to see KK juked out of his socks by Taylor. Even when Bresnahan called the right play, KK couldn't execute.

[Stripes]

That will require our outside linebackers and safeties to be able to stop the frigin' cutbacks. It was embarassing last week to see KK juked out of his socks by Taylor. Even when Bresnahan called the right play, KK couldn't execute.

The entire defense aside from Justin Smith and Bryan Robinson has poor execution against the Jaguars. The linebackers overpursued religiously, the safeties missed tackles, and the corners got beaten for touchdown on one-on-one plays.

[bengalboomer7]

I think we will lose if the Titans score more points than us

[ShulaSteakhouse]

If they're dependent on safeties making solo tackles to stop RB's then they'll lose...what happened the accountability of the LB's folks? What exactly is their responsiblity?

They also need to get Geathers back on the outside, sick of this crap with him being at a DT spot where's basically useless - it's a miserable failure.

I noticed in the Bengals' practices this week from my bird's eye view of them, that they were running a lot of roll-outs with Carson...watch for some of that Sunday. Palmer looks very comfortable doing that and i really think they need to take better advantage of his mobility given the banged up state of the 0-line. Palmer's just standing back there getting killed at times.

[alleycat]

If they're dependent on safeties making solo tackles to stop RB's then they'll lose...what happened the accountability of the LB's folks? What exactly is their responsiblity?

They also need to get Geathers back on the outside, sick of this crap with him being at a DT spot where's basically useless - it's a miserable failure.

I noticed in the Bengals' practices this week from my bird's eye view of them, that they were running a lot of roll-outs with Carson...watch for some of that Sunday. Palmer looks very comfortable doing that and i really think they need to take better advantage of his mobility given the banged up state of the 0-line. Palmer's just standing back there getting killed at times.

Interesting. Maybe they are beginning the process of installing a gameplan for Pittsburgh. Not that they are looking past this weeks game, but I've had a feeling we've been holding back in a few areas because we don't want to tip our hat for that game. If we don't see roll outs this week, I bet they unload them during the Pburg game. God knows we'll need some way to avoid that rush and give Palmer the time to dissect them.

[BengalByTheBay]

I suppose you're typically right in that if we give up 100 yards to whoever the opposing RB is the likelihood is we lose. Isn't that true for most teams, however. I don't know -- I mean we gave up 106 to Jones in Chicago and won handily. I think its equally true to say if we lose the turnover battle then we lose and if we win it then we win. I personally think that this defense has been quite good in the red zone and quite loose in the middle of the field. While nobody likes to give up a lot of rush yards and the "bend don't break" defense is about as popular as the prevent, it kinda looks like that's going to be our pattern for this season. I think Marvin has the offense he wants for the most part and the defense is in an evolution that will not be complete until a few more spots are worked out. If we have Madieu back this week that helps tremendously, however. Yeah, you don't want your safeties making all of the tackles, but if they are it's better if they're making them 5 yards of the LOS rather than 25.

[NYBengalfan]

when we can tackle we're 4-0

when we dont 0-1

if we tackle like we did last week we lose, if we tackle like we did weeks 1-4 then we'll win.

Bengals 27-16

[Stripes]

I don't think we'll neccessarily lose if Brown gets one hundred yards rushing. Thomas Jones did that to us and we were still able to beat the Bears. I think the important thing is that we keep Brown inconsistent, even if he does manage to break a couple. McNair will be better able to use Brown's running to his advantage than Kyle Orton was, so we need to stop them from running to set up the pass.

[San Antonio Bengal]

The total yardage isn't the issue. The issue is whether the Titans stick to the running game or not. If we can force them to play from behind (as we did in the first three games), the burden will be on McNair to air it out, and eventually there'll be an INT or two come our way. The big difference between the Jax and Houston games and the first three games was turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. If we don't get any turnovers, look for a close game.

And I understand where the comment is coming from, but Brown is not Fred Taylor.

[skyline]

The total yardage isn't the issue. The issue is whether the Titans stick to the running game or not. If we can force them to play from behind (as we did in the first three games), the burden will be on McNair to air it out, and eventually there'll be an INT or two come our way. The big difference between the Jax and Houston games and the first three games was turnovers, turnovers, turnovers. If we don't get any turnovers, look for a close game.

And I understand where the comment is coming from, but Brown is not Fred Taylor.

If we get out to an early lead, I don't think they will stick to the run. They've abandoned it early all season, so hoefully we can force tem to do the same...

[TJJackson]

Guessing that ShulaSteakhouse works at Intrieve

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Interesting. Maybe they are beginning the process of installing a gameplan for Pittsburgh. Not that they are looking past this weeks game, but I've had a feeling we've been holding back in a few areas because we don't want to tip our hat for that game. If we don't see roll outs this week, I bet they unload them during the Pburg game. God knows we'll need some way to avoid that rush and give Palmer the time to dissect them.

Well I think they have been planning on adding some wrinkles to the offense as Chad eluded to this week, and being more creative.

I think teams are figuring out how to defend Carson and Chad and Rudi (eight in the box, cheating safety in a cover 2 etc...,) and it's up the Bratkowski to come up with some new ideas teams haven't seen before to generate some more offense - because it's been a bit inconsistent the last few weeks, and CJ is complaining because his #'s are going down suddenly - plus TJ is going to be out a while apparently.

I could be wrong but know I saw Carson in practice (these weren't screen passes but roll outs hitting WR's 5-10 yards downfield on the run) rolling out more often instead of pocket passing, it was pretty obvious.

[turningpoint]

The jags game vs the run.

I think we were trying to hard to stop taylor in the backfield.

The lb's would run stright at him...and then of course miss.

Then taylor would run another 6yd, picking up 7-9yds at a time.

i think on those plays if the lb's just contained him, letting him make the 1st move until more help arrived, taylor would of only been picking up about 4 yds.

The D is trying to make to big of plays, thus allowing bigger plays.

i think they should just contain and let things work themselves out.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Guessing that ShulaSteakhouse works at Intrieve

Lol, it's Harland Financial now!

I will not say which floor or company though for personal safety reasons.

But we've got a big pair of binoculars in the office.

[bengalskyspy]

ShulaSteakHouse--- I am in the same building. Are you me? Have I really developed the ability to be in two places at the same time?

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Yes I am your dual personality. And I NEVER post on the board while in the office!

[walzav29]

I underestimated how important Madieu is to this defense. I'll bet if he play's Brown won't get a 100. I think he'll be needed that way until Pollack and Thurman get more disciplined.