backerman Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Obvioulsy the Bengals "D" vs the Bears "O" was a blowout in the Bengals favor like I projected.But were you happy with what Your offense did? If I read the stats correctly the Bears actually outgained the Bengals in ydg category and i believe all of the Bengals points came off of short fields provided by turnovers.Rudi had less than 50yds until gargabe time in the 4th quarter, Carson under 200yds for the entire game (but no Ints vs a ballhawking secondary, thats huge). 24 pts is a quality amount in the NFL, but if the Defense had not set the Offense up so often, would they have done very good? Would they have broken double digits?Now, vs Jacksonville, I don't see Leftwich providing the gifts that Orton did, and while I don't think the Jags are as good in the back 7 as Chicago they are still a VERY stout Defense. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'm pleased. They had a hard time moving the ball, but they got the job done when it mattered.Yes, the defense helped out the offense immensely today, but that's what football is all about. It takes a good effort on both sides of the ball. The Bengals managed to score the first touchdown against the Bears in the redzone, and Carson threw for 3 total. They did all of this under bad conditions (rain), and without Willie Anderson for a good part of the game. Did you see the protection he got on some of those TD passes? Quality stuff...No complaints here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think one reason the offense compiled such a small yardage total WAS the field position alloted by takeaways. If we only have to travel half the field to score, then that's all the yardage credit we will get. If the defense had not been so opportunistic, then I think the offense would have at least made it to 325 yards. It doesn't matter though. Despite a few 3 and outs, credited to an excellent game by the Bears defense, the offense put points on the board when they needed to. I loved how the offense responded when the Bears finally scored early in the 4th quarter. 3 plays later, Chad was waltzing into the endzone to maintain the big lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 All things considered...on the road, vs. a strong D, in the rain...yeah, they did just fine. IIRC they did have one good 70 yard drive for a TD, and took advantage of turnovers to score. They also won the field position battle. How often have we watched other teams do that to us: we have an avg. starting position of our own 10 and they start on the 50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Bengal Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'm happy with the D and the O, as long as we got the W. WHO DEY!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 What do you guys think?I think some folks just like to worry. Even when things are going good. Don't worry. Be Happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 with the rain and a solid bears d we did fine. a little conservative on ofense .i would have like to attacked them a little more with chad and tj. but a win is a win and i am a very happy man right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzoo Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Carson had all day to throw most of the time, but it looked like the Bears had some decent coverages (save for that long one to Chad). Henry was covered like a blanket on his TD and it took a perfect throw and great concentration to make it happen.The running yardage was tough to come by, but that was to be expected. That's a pretty good defense they went up against today, and they fared pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 That's a pretty good defense they went up against today, and they fared pretty well.The best in the league to hear most experts tell it! And the Bengals still whipped their asses! ON THE FREAKIN' ROAD NO LESS!!! Has everyone here forgotten just how hard it was for Cincy to get a road win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 The Bengals hung 24 points on a top defense in their house. They could have added a score to that at the end of the game and didn't. Nobody had eye popping numbers individually, but pulled together collectively ... You know .. playing together .. as a team ??? Hell I'm way past happy. I'd probably be ecstatic if I could spell it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hell I'm way past happy. I'd probably be ecstatic if I could spell it .You did and we are! All hail the mighty Carson Palmer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 YES -- I am happy with the Offense -- they scored when they needed to and we won I really liked the way Chris Henry caught the ball, when he was given his chance. This is a TEAM sport and when the Offense is not scoring the Defense has to step forward and make plays -- and they (we) did.I LOVE IT!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Antonio Bengal Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 Very happy with the offense. Numbers were different than last two weeks, but on the road, in less than ideal weather, up against a good young D, a D that had kept their previous opponents in single digits scoring-wise. Smaller yardage numbers due in part to great field position after the defense got the ball back. Very very happy. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 But were you happy with what Your offense did? If I read the stats correctly the Bears actually outgained the Bengals in ydg category and i believe all of the Bengals points came off of short fields provided by turnovers.Rudi had less than 50yds until gargabe time in the 4th quarter, Carson under 200yds for the entire game (but no Ints vs a ballhawking secondary, thats huge). 24 pts is a quality amount in the NFL, but if the Defense had not set the Offense up so often, would they have done very good? Would they have broken double digits?You ARE joking right ?You are the one who said, "The Bears defense may be the best defensive unit in the league."Excuse me but, what kind of loser points to a slight edge in total yards when your team was beaten 24 - 7 ?If anybody got any "garbage" yards it was the Bears and not Rudi, they went for it three times on 4th down and they got a good portion of their yards late in the game with the Bengals in a semi-prevent defense.The Bears didn't decide to LET Rudi get his yards just because it was the 4th quarter, that is total bulls**t.If we would have had to put up longer drives Rudi would have ended up with over 100 yards and don't even start with your crap about Palmer throwing for less than 200 yards.BIG FREAKING DEAL, the man threw three TD passes, completed like %70 of his passes amd racked up a 130 QB rating for the game.IF we had needed more long drives Plamer would have had put up more passing yards but the only stat that really mattered was 24 - 7.And as you ponder that 24 pts, which you say is a quality amount in the NFL, you might want to remember that the Bengals took a knee three times at the 3 yard line to end the game.As for breaking double digits they did more than that just with the two TD drives that went 62 yards and 70 yards.Don't kid yourself, this was not a close game that you "could" have won if only things had just gone a little differently.We came into your house, with your crowd, with your "best defensive unit in the league", with your freaking un-cut grass that you left un-covered as it rained all night, and KICKED Your ASS.Yea I am happy with what our offense did, they did their job and we won the game.As for the Jags, we will be ready for them when their time comes ...Right now the Houston game next Sunday is the most important game of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'm quite happy. That was a buzzsaw we saw today. JPW's comments just about sum it up.The O made quick, tactical strikes that converted takeaways into points. THe other stats may have been down (oh well) but considering the Chicago D and the final outcome, I am wicked happy. Keep in mind this the kind of game we used to lose... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted September 26, 2005 Report Share Posted September 26, 2005 WOW. Billy, I can tell you're all giddy, and so am I. I just cannot sum up how amazing Carson Palmer is. Did you see the perfect, and I mean PERFECT throws he had to Henry and Chad? I am so, so, so, so happy right now about this win.I love the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backerman Posted September 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 But were you happy with what Your offense did? If I read the stats correctly the Bears actually outgained the Bengals in ydg category and i believe all of the Bengals points came off of short fields provided by turnovers.Rudi had less than 50yds until gargabe time in the 4th quarter, Carson under 200yds for the entire game (but no Ints vs a ballhawking secondary, thats huge). 24 pts is a quality amount in the NFL, but if the Defense had not set the Offense up so often, would they have done very good? Would they have broken double digits?You ARE joking right ?You are the one who said, "The Bears defense may be the best defensive unit in the leagute."Excuse me but, what kind of loser points to a slight edge in total yards when your team was beaten 24 - 7 ?If anybody got any "garbage" yards it was the Bears and not Rudi, they went for it three times on 4th down and they got a good portion of their yards late in the game with the Bengals in a semi-prevent defense.The Bears didn't decide to LET Rudi get his yards just because it was the 4th quarter, that is total bulls**t.If we would have had to put up longer drives Rudi would have ended up with over 100 yards and don't even start with your crap about Palmer throwing for less than 200 yards.BIG FREAKING DEAL, the man threw three TD passes, completed like %70 of his passes amd racked up a 130 QB rating for the game.IF we had needed more long drives Plamer would have had put up more passing yards but the only stat that really mattered was 24 - 7.And as you ponder that 24 pts, which you say is a quality amount in the NFL, you might want to remember that the Bengals took a knee three times at the 3 yard line to end the game.As for breaking double digits they did more than that just with the two TD drives that went 62 yards and 70 yards.Don't kid yourself, this was not a close game that you "could" have won if only things had just gone a little differently.We came into your house, with your crowd, with your "best defensive unit in the league", with your freaking un-cut grass that you left un-covered as it rained all night, and KICKED Your ASS.Yea I am happy with what our offense did, they did their job and we won the game.As for the Jags, we will be ready for them when their time comes ...Right now the Houston game next Sunday is the most important game of the year.First off. the Bears aren't MY team. I'm a Falcons Fan first and foremost. The Bengals are my second favorite since they drafted Pollack and Thurman. So really don't know who you are talking trash to.2nd off, I preditcted the Bengals to win 20-13 barring a crazy turnover fest for either side. The Bears set the Bengals up with crazy turnovers. which brings me to point 3..... The Bengals have forced what.? about 15 turnovers so far in 3 games. I'm just saying that I don't think you can expect that kind of ratio for the rest of the year. And had Orton not thrown up so many jump balls I see this going as very close game. Actually the reason for the topic was that I thought the Bengals O struggled more than I expected. Especially running the ball. (Considering that almost everyone on this board projected RUDi to get his 100). The Bears Defense had to bail their team out time after time or this could have easily been a 40+ point route. Sure after being on Defense all day because your O can't keep the Ball (or the Bengals D keeps taking the ball, however you want to look at it) your going to be a bit dejected and give up some running yardage when the game is all but over. The Bengals couldn't effectivley run when the Bears were still in the game. (by the last half of the 4th qaurter EVERYBODY knew it was over.)Personally I think the Bears D out played the Bengals O as a unit. The Bengals as an entire team obviously out played the Bears. But I guess being on Bengals message board I should expect a Bengals slant or viewpoint of the game. I will say one thing. The Bengals secondary seems to have the best hands of any defensive backfield I have seen so far. They don't let too may INTS hit the ground.And thanks all for your opinions and responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalbob Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 To me this was a very Patriots like win. An opportunistic defense gets an early turnover allowing the offense to score on a short field and stake an early lead. Then it was a matter of making the other team beat you with what they don't do well while your offense runs clock and gives them the ball back with terrible field position all game. Then, if they get close the true color/character of the offense comes through and responds with a dagger in the heart of the other team (in our case a quick drive up the field and TD to Chad).Maybe I'm reading more into this than what was there, but I don't think I am. This team isn't about padding stats, it's about winning games. Am I impressed? Very impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 on the road in the slop against what will be proven as a very good defense???? This game will go down as a bright spot----24 points on the bears D.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 In my eyes this was a 31-7 win since they showed and were in position to score, but held back.I really like this game because it was a battle, unlike the score showed or the talking heads (or lips-Shannon Sharpe) talked about.Up by 10 at half isn't like we totally took them out of their game or like we could just run out the clock. I'm glad we don't play the Bears every week. Their D gave up yards very begrudingly. Our O had to run a perfect play to score...the first one with Carson and Chad ...that ball had to be perfect...as did the ball to Chris Henry. The Vasher miss at the line looked a little easier, but Chad put a hell of a move on him at the line. He was trying to jam him, but wasn't very focused at doing it, and when that happens, we'll burn ya.Actually, I'm only hesitant to play thir D every week...I'd love another crack at Orton...my guess, next time he breaks down in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 31-7 if they dont take a knee ( classy act ).. 38-7 if Chad doesnt grab a jersey and TJ has his score... They hit the home run early and played clock management thereafter.Bears stacked the box made it tougher for Rudi...Bengals went into a mini prevent thus making it easier for Jones to run.Game plan worked to a tee.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Not much more to add to this thread that hasn't already been said, so, I'll just say I'm more than happy with how we did Sunday and look forward to seeing Chad and the boys do a little more flexing after we put the hurt on the Texans. Here's my Carr impression after this Sundays game against the Bengals... WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 This thread reminds me of the one about the Bengal's leaky run defense. I guess there's the game you see with your own eyes, and then there's the one you see when you look at a stat page. We move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backerman Posted September 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 on the road in the slop against what will be proven as a very good defense???? This game will go down as a bright spot----24 points on the bears D....I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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