Bengal_Brad Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Greetings and SalutationsWow what a pre-season game, eh? Yes it was brutal, yes it was disturbing, but I don't think it's time to push the panic button just yet. It would have been nice to see the team stop some big plays and would have been nice to see them make some big plays. The 3rd pre-season game is usually an indication of how the team really is, but it's not the final team or final word by any means. We had a couple starters not play in Williams and Big Willie, and they would have without a doubt made some difference.The team goal was to evaluate players, not game plan and not necessarily to win. I'm sure Marvin wanted the first-stringers to play much better, and I'm sure he would have liked to pull out a "W". Some formations will change when the regular season starts, some people will be 2nd stringers or even cut.Just remember this was a vanilla offense and defense. I have every confidence in Marvin and his coaches. We are not the lap dogs we used to be. This year we are the media darling and we aren't going to sneak up on anyone. Could be that Marvin has formations, plays and some surprises we haven't seen yet.I really hate to see the negativity on this board, I hate seeing so many so quick to leap off the bandwagon. Lets see what happens Sept 11th. Have faith, remember "In Marvin We Trust". I was told last night during the game from someone that they had season tickets and had every right to complain. I live in Milwaukee now, but I had season tickets for 8-years before I moved here. I had season tickets during the Shula years. Trust me I KNOW PAIN!Hang in there, have faith. Give Marvin and the team a chance! I'm not a ra-ra type person, but I'm definitely not a fair-weather fan either. Trust me, if they are 8-8 again this year, I'll be just as crushed as any of you. Quote
InsultComicDog Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Lets see what happens Sept 11th. I hate the sound of that Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Hey, just remember.... The Patriots got the snot beat out of them by US last preseason just like this, and ended up Champs... Quote
bengalindian Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Isn't Big O our designated motivational speaker and preacher?? Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 I'm still worried about a quick start - the DB's looked lost, and of course it was sloppy all-around. Deltha and Herring got abused by Owens over and over.The Bengals' don't have the team confidence the Pats do in order to overcome a slow start or a horrible preseason. I don't think Palmer checked-off all night long, kept focusing on one guy - and when he made some really nice throws in tight spots, WR's dropped them.Levi Jones is a swinging door and is overrated by most Bengals' fans. I'm not sure he's worth what it will cost to re-sign him - if they can replace him with a 1st round talent - there's a reason people laughed at the Bengals' for taking him so high...he's not that good.Stacey Andrews is not quite ready for the NFL yet, but should make a serviceable career back-up at some point. Braham and Williams were getting bulldozed by LB's and DT's up the middle a lot.I think some of the writers are right actually in that this team is still another year away, they are young and still lack some talent in areas that are leftover from the poor, poor drafting of the previous regimes.Anything can happen these days so who knows, not panicking, but I'm certainly not encouraged or feeling very confident they'll get off to a quick start. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 I think the Eagles had a little bit to prove from last year when Kitna led the Bengals to a win over their scrubbies. Plus the Bengals percentage on the road against teams with a winning record, although improved, remains horrendous.Honestly I expected more out of the defense. What's the deal anyway? Bresnahan or Frazier, we get the same crap result. This bulls**t has to end if the playoffs are ever going to be a possibility.I guess I'll be the first to say...In Marvin I doubt. Sorry. That's the way it is. Quote
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Stacey Andrews is not quite ready for the NFL yet, but should make a serviceable career back-up at some point. Braham and Williams were getting bulldozed by LB's and DT's up the middle a lot.I think some of the writers are right actually in that this team is still another year away, they are young and still lack some talent in areas that are leftover from the poor, poor drafting of the previous regimes.Anything can happen these days so who knows, not panicking, but I'm certainly not encouraged or feeling very confident they'll get off to a quick start. You're not panicking, yet your predicting that Stacy Andrews will be a career back-up after all of Three pre season games. Maybe you should proofread your thread before you post it. Actually, everything you said contradicted your final statement about you not panicking.I guess I'll be the first to say...In Marvin I doubt. Sorry. That's the way it is. And yeah, THAT'S Panicking right there. Let's all take a deep breath, and get a grip. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 I guess I'll be the first to say...In Marvin I doubt. Sorry. That's the way it is. And yeah, THAT'S Panicking right there. Let's all take a deep breath, and get a grip. Nah. No panic. I'm as calm as can be. I quit "panic-ing" 5 years into this playoff less run. I'm entering my 10th year of no panic. Quote
Scottishbengal Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 I think the Eagles had a little bit to prove from last year when Kitna led the Bengals to a win over their scrubbies. C'mon Bill - you really think Philly had to even the score for last seasons defeat?when they'd already made the post season and were resting players? I can't buy into that one but I admire your staunch resistance to accept that fact that the Bengals are still far from where they want to be.Let's get our feet backon the ground and not fool ourselves the Bengals are playing "vanilla" games and are keeping their cards close totheir chest. Isn't every other team doing the same with pre-season?Face facts - if we finish 2nd in the AFCN this season then we would've done well!(Where's Barb when you need him?) Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 I can't buy into that one but I admire your staunch resistance to accept that fact that the Bengals are still far from where they want to be. What do you think I was trying to say there? (Where's Barb when you need him?)Unfortunately Barbarian is gone. As in forever. Move on. Quote
Scottishbengal Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 I just can''t see that last seasons defeat (meaningless result in Phillys' case) was added incentive for the Eagles in this encounter. Are you saying that they really had a score to settle in his one.Move on indeed. But hopefully upward 'cos at the moment I feel somewhat apprehensive (negative) about the upcoming season. Everyone seems full of confidence and I wish I could too but I'm just waiting to be put on my ass - and that could start in Cleveland. Quote
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 (Where's Barb when you need him?)Unfortunately Barbarian is gone. As in forever. Move on. So what happened to him? Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Stacey Andrews is not quite ready for the NFL yet, but should make a serviceable career back-up at some point. Braham and Williams were getting bulldozed by LB's and DT's up the middle a lot.I think some of the writers are right actually in that this team is still another year away, they are young and still lack some talent in areas that are leftover from the poor, poor drafting of the previous regimes.Anything can happen these days so who knows, not panicking, but I'm certainly not encouraged or feeling very confident they'll get off to a quick start.You're not panicking, yet your predicting that Stacy Andrews will be a career back-up after all of Three pre season games. Maybe you should proofread your thread before you post it. Actually, everything you said contradicted your final statement about you not panicking.I guess I'll be the first to say...In Marvin I doubt. Sorry. That's the way it is. And yeah, THAT'S Panicking right there. Let's all take a deep breath, and get a grip. Uh, I didn't write that second line - hope you are not attributing that to me - it's from someone else's post. I never said anything about "panicking."I said I was worried about them getting off to a fast start, not predicting gloom and doom.I really don't know what you're talking about there.I also think it's much more realistic to pen a guy as a career back-up at this point than someone who will replace Willie any time soon - ecspecially if he was drafted in the late rounds and has only played a year or two of football in his life. He was drafted to be Willie's back-up - this is not news, and if he were "that" good he would've been drafted much higher, even as a project. The guy can't even handle a snap count yet.If you're looking for rah rah stuff and over-valuing Bengals' players just because I'm a fan, look elsewhere I guess. I opt to give my opinion and you have a right to disagree, but quoting posts that aren't mine and trying to make some point out of nothing I said is irritating. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 So what happened to him? C'mon. Do the math. What do you think happened? Quote
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 Stacey Andrews is not quite ready for the NFL yet, but should make a serviceable career back-up at some point. Braham and Williams were getting bulldozed by LB's and DT's up the middle a lot.I think some of the writers are right actually in that this team is still another year away, they are young and still lack some talent in areas that are leftover from the poor, poor drafting of the previous regimes.Anything can happen these days so who knows, not panicking, but I'm certainly not encouraged or feeling very confident they'll get off to a quick start.You're not panicking, yet your predicting that Stacy Andrews will be a career back-up after all of Three pre season games. Maybe you should proofread your thread before you post it. Actually, everything you said contradicted your final statement about you not panicking.I guess I'll be the first to say...In Marvin I doubt. Sorry. That's the way it is. And yeah, THAT'S Panicking right there. Let's all take a deep breath, and get a grip. Uh, I didn't write that second line - hope you are not attributing that to me - it's from someone else's post. I never said anything about "panicking."I said I was worried about them getting off to a fast start, not predicting gloom and doom.I really don't know what you're talking about there.I also think it's much more realistic to pen a guy as a career back-up at this point than someone who will replace Willie any time soon - ecspecially if he was drafted in the late rounds and has only played a year or two of football in his life. He was drafted to be Willie's back-up - this is not news, and if he were "that" good he would've been drafted much higher, even as a project. The guy can't even handle a snap count yet.If you're looking for rah rah stuff and over-valuing Bengals' players just because I'm a fan, look elsewhere I guess. I opt to give my opinion and you have a right to disagree, but quoting posts that aren't mine and trying to make some point out of nothing I said is irritating. No, I'm not expecting you to be a homer. I actually respect posters that offer objective, if critical, view points about our players. It's just that after I read your article, it seemed like you were contradicting yourself, at least to me. You have to admit, you were overreacting a bit on the Stacy Andrews bit. No one's expecting him to supplant either Levi or Willie, but I dunno about the career back-up bit. No one's THAT good to get drafted higher than a fourth-round if you have such little experience, I don't care WHO you are.The Bengals had additional draft picks to burn, so the gamble seemed more feasible to them than to some other team that didn't have as many picks.Pardon me for misconstruing your comments, but if some of those words were not your own, that's what quotation marks are for. I don't peruse everyone's posts, so I'm not sure who made that remark. Quote
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 27, 2005 Report Posted August 27, 2005 So what happened to him?C'mon. Do the math. What do you think happened? Better yet, just spill the beans.I don't care to guess. Quote
BengalBax Posted August 28, 2005 Report Posted August 28, 2005 And just remember, the 2002 Bengals had the crap kicked out of them like this, and went on to be a league joke at 2-14. Quote
InsultComicDog Posted August 28, 2005 Report Posted August 28, 2005 I think the Eagles had a little bit to prove from last year when Kitna led the Bengals to a win over their scrubbies.C'mon Bill - you really think Philly had to even the score for last seasons defeat?when they'd already made the post season and were resting players? I can't buy into that one but I admire your staunch resistance to accept that fact that the Bengals are still far from where they want to be.Let's get our feet backon the ground and not fool ourselves the Bengals are playing "vanilla" games and are keeping their cards close totheir chest. Isn't every other team doing the same with pre-season?Face facts - if we finish 2nd in the AFCN this season then we would've done well!(Where's Barb when you need him?) That game was controversial, as I recall about half of the "experts" were saying that the Eagles should not have rested their starters for two weeks (plus a bye week) going into the playoffs, that they would be ripe to lose their game against the wild-card winner.Frankly, I doubt that that game was at all on the minds of the Eagles last night.If the Eagles were making any kind of statement coming into the game, it was that McNabb and TO could still play together even though they might not be talking to each other. Quote
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 28, 2005 Report Posted August 28, 2005 And just remember, the 2002 Bengals had the crap kicked out of them like this, and went on to be a league joke at 2-14. Am I the only one who remembers you banning yourself from the boards?Bax, alls I'm saying is switch it up a lil.Youre too f**king pessimistic, and that's a saying a LOT coming from me.You're like Barbarian re-incarnated. Well, maybe not....but those who were around remember Barbarian (he actually wasn't a bad poster). Quote
Scottishbengal Posted August 28, 2005 Report Posted August 28, 2005 So what happened to him?C'mon. Do the math. What do you think happened? Is it something to do with a gunman and a grassy knoll?Surely there's not a conspiracy theory Quote
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