HoosierCat Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 Was reading Lenny's blather at:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs03/c..._len&id=1706296And buried near the bottom of his "scout's take" stuff is a note that says there are three, count 'em THREE teams interested in one Corey Dillon. However, none of them are willing to surrender more than a "middle round" pick, which I take to mean a fourth.Assuming there's anything more than smoke here, it's promising that there are 3 suitors. With that many, we *might* be able to bid someone up to at least a third, or maybe a (conditional) future pick in addition to a 4th. Quote
Kirkendall Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 I truly believe that no one will deal for Dillon for what we expect. I can see a lower, very lower end pick but nothing to change the team around; I wish we could, but I think that Dillon's value has gone down because of age, injury and PR reasons and amount of RBs coming out of the draft this and next season. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 12, 2004 Author Report Posted January 12, 2004 I truly believe that no one will deal for Dillon for what we expect. I can see a lower, very lower end pick but nothing to change the team around; I wish we could, but I think that Dillon's value has gone down because of age, injury and PR reasons and amount of RBs coming out of the draft this and next season. I say, if all we can get is a 4th or 5th, take it. Beats nothing. Quote
Kirkendall Posted January 12, 2004 Report Posted January 12, 2004 I say, if all we can get is a 4th or 5th, take it. Beats nothing.Completely agree. I just hope that we get something because I don't know how the team chemistry will react upon the Dillon element if no suitors are available before training camp. Quote
AGrizzlyBaer Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 man i would take anything for him Quote
kevnz Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I think the only way Dillon is traded is if the Bengals use him to move up in the draft, or some team is willing to part with a conditional pick next year based on his performance. It's not gonna hurt the Bengals to keep him on the team and not dressing him every week, or the first time he so much as sneezes he goes on the IR. I know he has created a lot of problems for the team but there is no reason to give him what he wants unless it helps the team out...I personally like the idea of keeping him around and putting him on the IR as soon as just to spite him.... Quote
KitnasBengals Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I think the Cowboys would be a good fit for Dillion regardless of whether they are interested now or not. Parcells needs a capable offense and if he can snag Brunell ( Good chance IMHO) and grab Dillion for a 3rd or 4th the Cowboys would be contenders in no time. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 13, 2004 Author Report Posted January 13, 2004 I think the only way Dillon is traded is if the Bengals use him to move up in the draft,Hmmm. Hmmmmmmmm. Thanks, kev, that angle hadn't occurred to me (though I'm sure it's been brought up before, maybe this is just the first time I've had enough beers so that it sunk in ). Yeah...yeah, I could see that. Cincy & DC have done deals before...they need an RB & they didn't bring Gibbs in to rebuild...Dillon, our first, and...I dunno, someone with one of those draft value charts help me out here...maybe our third? Do it on draft day only if Sean Taylor is still there at No. 5?Ahhh...I should just drink less, right? Quote
richmond_mat Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 man i would take anything for him I've felt this way for years. But years ago you'd got something.BEST SCENARIO:fourth round with player to be named or a conditional 2005 pick. Quote
jjakq27 Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 I know he has created a lot of problems for the team but there is no reason to give him what he wants unless it helps the team out...I personally like the idea of keeping him around and putting him on the IR as soon as just to spite him.... I'd love to bury him there too but then you are wasting effort and energy that isn't really helping your team. Even if he isn't playing, his negative attitude will still be there.It's time to move on and hopefully we can get something for him that will make this a better team. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Who cares what we get, just as long as he's gone. With his attitude, he's worth nothing to the Bengals anyway. Quote
walzav29 Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 If you have 3 bidder's then we could get a 2nd rounder. Dallas really needs him. Jerry Jones will try hard, and If Dan Snyder gets in a competition for him with Jerry. Who knows where it will go. Quote
Kirkendall Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 The only way I can see us having any benefit of Dillon trading related to the draft is if we're 17th; use our draft plus Dillon to move to 10th or 9th. I don't see much more than that. I think that's similar to what Kev was saying. Quote
The Brew Man Posted January 13, 2004 Report Posted January 13, 2004 Id also be happy with a middle round pick and maybe some cash. Dillon has hurt his trade value considerably with his outbursts, although he may have hurt himself too with them. Maybe not if 3 teams are interested... Quote
jbengals1 Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 you will find the closer we get 2 the draft the more dillions stock will go up and the better chance we will have to move up from 17 to like the 6-10 range........there will be a last minute bidding war on him Quote
WHO DEY AGAIN? Posted January 14, 2004 Report Posted January 14, 2004 jbengals1 I hope your right but I wouldn't give up a squirt of piss for that A##hole! Quote
chrishcovga Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 I say trading dillon away for anything less than a 2nd. round pick and a conditional pick, would be a waste. If we trade him away for a 3rd.... it had better be a 3rd and a 4th.dillon may be a headache.. but he's a damn good running back,and 3.4 million a year for a guy that can easily give you 1200 yards for the next 4 years.. "barring" any more injuries..we should reap the rewards for that. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 But chris, your forgetting he doesn't have the heart to play here anymore, hence his uniform chucking incident. He's gone. I sincerely believe that. Quote
Kirkendall Posted January 16, 2004 Report Posted January 16, 2004 Bringing Dillon back would kill team chemistry, even Willie Anderson said that. Quote
richmond_mat Posted January 17, 2004 Report Posted January 17, 2004 Why not bundle Dillon with our number one pick and see what we can get? Maybe a team with a high round two pick would bite and surrender something of value for the turd. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 21, 2004 Author Report Posted January 21, 2004 CD to Tampa?http://bucs.tbo.com/bucs/MGAST7QTOPD.html Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 CD to Tampa?http://bucs.tbo.com/bucs/MGAST7QTOPD.html Ooooh! We'll go Sapp for Dillon straight up, for the trade up!!! I can hear the whiners gettin' ready to bawl right now! Quote
kevnz Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Actually it makes sense for Tampa to go after Dillon. I have a feeling Tampa will be Oakland East over the next few years.Also Gruden doesn't care about the players attitude, only what he can bring to the field...Never mind that it can destroy a team...Look what it did to Oakland this year as soon as it started to get tough on them...BOOM! But hey, if they are willing to part with the picks, I say go for it. No trade for Sapp though, for one he is afree agent, and two I just don't like him, and three I think his skills are on the decline and he's way overated. Quote
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 No trade for Sapp though, for one he is a free agent, and two I just don't like him, and three I think his skills are on the decline and he's way overated. Sapp overrated? To some degree, yes. Skills on the decline? Maybe also true on that, but when you consider the level they are declining from, that still leaves him above the abilities any of the Bengal defensive lineman! Absolutely none of them play with the intensity of Warren. Quote
kevnz Posted January 21, 2004 Report Posted January 21, 2004 Sapp overrated? To some degree, yes. Skills on the decline? Maybe also true on that, but when you consider the level they are declining from, that still leaves him above the abilities any of the Bengal defensive lineman! Absolutely none of them play with the intensity of Warren. Well, the biggest reason I say his skills are on the decline is that normally when a player is in the last year of a contract they play almost above themselves, but Sapp was the worst player on his line in most every game he played. Now that might not be a big deal cause people like to say he get's double teamed all the time, or that offenses go away from him. Not this year (Not that I was able to see a lot of games, but when I did that's what I saw) I also think he would disrupt team chemistry much like a certain running back that's on the trading block.But the upside of Sapp coming to the Bengals would be the national attention he would bring...I mean when was the last time a Bengal made it on the cover of a video game? The casual fan would pay a bit more attention to the Bengals and that would help to get the Bengals more media exposure, more featured games, and more prime time games...The Bengals can win all they want, but the networks are gonna have to believe that people will turn out to watch the game...The networks love stars, not good football. The bengals have to develop a national following. But I'll end my rant now and save everybody. Quote
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