Gil Brandt had a good Pollack point

[walzav29]

Gil said yesterday (on Sirius) that the reason the Bengal's can't just "give him the little bit" of money to get him in is the following. Say it's just $10,000. Multiply that by 49 guys and that's when you get into problems. Everyone will try this. The Bengals just have to hold tight, and let Pollack waste half of his rookie season. It's Pollack's decision and he is only hurting himself. Landon Johnson will do fine.

[Section 310]

I think Pollack has little to no leverage at this late date. He has missed the majority of training camp and will be of little use to the defense whether he signs today or the day before the season opener. Therefore, why would the Bengals budge? The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the team pulls their offer off the table.

Pollack's other problem is that he has to sign before the first game or he will lose 1/16th of his salary...a game check or two would likely exceed the amount of money being argued over right now.

As for the doom's day scenario of a season long holdout, Pollack would be committing financial suicide. He would reenter the draft, but lose an entire year's salary. He would also have no hope of being selected as high as 17 again. Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

This holdout benefits no one. The two sides need to shuffle their papers and come up with some deal that allows everyone to save face.

[skyline]

I'm as unhappy about this holdout as anyone.

Still, I have complete confidence that it will get done, and as walzav said...I have utmost confidence in Landon Johnson to fill the role admirably.

[BengalBax]

I think Pollack has little to no leverage at this late date. He has missed the majority of training camp and will be of little use to the defense whether he signs today or the day before the season opener. Therefore, why would the Bengals budge? The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the team pulls their offer off the table.

Pollack's other problem is that he has to sign before the first game or he will lose 1/16th of his salary...a game check or two would likely exceed the amount of money being argued over right now.

As for the doom's day scenario of a season long holdout, Pollack would be committing financial suicide. He would reenter the draft, but lose an entire year's salary. He would also have no hope of being selected as high as 17 again. Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

This holdout benefits no one. The two sides need to shuffle their papers and come up with some deal that allows everyone to save face.

This is a great post that makes absolute sense. This guy needs to get off his arse and get to camp. NOW

[HoosierCat]

Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money?

[Spain]

As the official I hate Pollak we should just sign him and send his ass packing as soon as we can! Landon at least had the training camp! Great point about the Bengals this is all Pollak!

[Kirkendall]

Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money?

We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...

PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right....

Developing.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

As the official I hate Pollak we should just sign him and send his ass packing as soon as we can! Landon at least had the training camp! Great point about the Bengals this is all Pollak!

It's official, real Bengals fans hate YOU not David Pollack.

[Wraith]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.

[HoosierCat]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.

Welcome aboard, wraith. Enjoy the 'zone.

[HoosierCat]

Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money?

We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...

PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right....

Developing.

<stalks off the board to find kirk and slap him silly until he talks>

[BengalByTheBay]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.

From a co-former insider -- welcome Wraith. There are some bright guys there, but I found it to be becoming all to co-dependent last pre-season. Hope you enjoy the zone - I have.

[Benzoo]

As the official I hate Pollak we should just sign him and send his ass packing as soon as we can! Landon at least had the training camp! Great point about the Bengals this is all Pollak!

Please, please, please....Stop polluting my brain.

[Kirkendall]

Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money?

We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...

PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right....

Developing.

<stalks off the board to find kirk and slap him silly until he talks>

I have sources now... step aside Geoff, there's a new sheriff in town. (just kiddin', 'butch')

[HairOnFire]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.

First, welcome.

With the formalities now out of the way let me take another moment and apologize to you for the horrible things I'll almost certainly say to you in the future.

[Kirkendall]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.

First, welcome.

With the formalities now out of the way let me take another moment and apologize to you for the horrible things I'll almost certainly say to you in the future.

Wait a second, why didn't we get that service announcement?

[The Big Orange]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.

First, welcome.

With the formalities now out of the way let me take another moment and apologize to you for the horrible things I'll almost certainly say to you in the future.

Wait a second, why didn't we get that service announcement?

Wraith, that Hair will make you laugh...but not without a price

However, one benefit to coming on board is that all of your sins are now forgiven, so you got that (I know a guy)

Secondly, I've got 200 really good seats reserved in heaven, so let me know if you want in on that...a lot of guys here are on the bubble, so we have plenty of room

And finally, all Browns fans are going to Hell, but they won't get the warm corner, that's reserved for the Ravens fans...apparently God's a Bengals fans

[andybren]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

Say what you will about the guy, he never fails to surprise. He's gone from trading Chad and Rudi for draft picks, to cutting our current draft picks out of spite.

If you're lucky he'll get drunk and explain how he commits trans-Atlantic wire fraud at his local whorehouse. Not to mention what he thinks of Mexicans, homosexuals and southerners.

A classy guy, all-around.

[Ox]

As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.

Say what you will about the guy, he never fails to surprise. He's gone from trading Chad and Rudi for draft picks, to cutting our current draft picks out of spite.

If you're lucky he'll get drunk and explain how he commits trans-Atlantic wire fraud at his local whorehouse. Not to mention what he thinks of Mexicans, homosexuals and southerners.

A classy guy, all-around.

That, for some reason makes me laugh. Sounds like a derelict uncle I have. He also likes moonshine quite a bit.

[Spain]

Thanks Andy I appreciate that and it couldnt be more true, Im kinda isolated and have developed my own opinions, so they might not match you guys. Yeah Im also kinda of a hot head when it comes to my team but let me asure you I bleed black and orange!

Oh I love moonshine, Americans make the best whiskey in the world!

[redsfan2]

Oh I love moonshine, Americans make the best whiskey in the world!

Yeah .... we kinda have to .. You know ... it puts us all in the right frame of mind to have all the fat southern girls screwing the Mexicans and their girlfriends.. while we're all drunk on moonshine.

Andy ... sorry if I missed anyone. I was trying to get them all equal air time.

[redsfan2]

I think Pollack has little to no leverage at this late date. He has missed the majority of training camp and will be of little use to the defense whether he signs today or the day before the season opener. Therefore, why would the Bengals budge? The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the team pulls their offer off the table.

Pollack's other problem is that he has to sign before the first game or he will lose 1/16th of his salary...a game check or two would likely exceed the amount of money being argued over right now.

As for the doom's day scenario of a season long holdout, Pollack would be committing financial suicide. He would reenter the draft, but lose an entire year's salary. He would also have no hope of being selected as high as 17 again. Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

This holdout benefits no one. The two sides need to shuffle their papers and come up with some deal that allows everyone to save face.

Have to agree with Bax. This is the most common sense post I've seen concerning this whole sordid mess.

[Spain]

Reds fan you have no idea how true you are! I miss a night down in brownsville, EU women want 10 dates before you get any. The whores kinda suck altohugh free you cant beat! Their just not motivated! However an average girl on jim beam will blow your mind! Oh go bengals

[HoosierCat]

Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.

Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money?

We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...

PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right....

Developing.

<stalks off the board to find kirk and slap him silly until he talks>

I have sources now... step aside Geoff, there's a new sheriff in town. (just kiddin', 'butch')

So give already. You got the skinny, spill it!

[Kirkendall]

And finally, all Browns fans are going to Hell, but they won't get the warm corner, that's reserved for the Ravens fans...apparently God's a Bengals fans