walzav29 Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Gil said yesterday (on Sirius) that the reason the Bengal's can't just "give him the little bit" of money to get him in is the following. Say it's just $10,000. Multiply that by 49 guys and that's when you get into problems. Everyone will try this. The Bengals just have to hold tight, and let Pollack waste half of his rookie season. It's Pollack's decision and he is only hurting himself. Landon Johnson will do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section 310 Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think Pollack has little to no leverage at this late date. He has missed the majority of training camp and will be of little use to the defense whether he signs today or the day before the season opener. Therefore, why would the Bengals budge? The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the team pulls their offer off the table. Pollack's other problem is that he has to sign before the first game or he will lose 1/16th of his salary...a game check or two would likely exceed the amount of money being argued over right now.As for the doom's day scenario of a season long holdout, Pollack would be committing financial suicide. He would reenter the draft, but lose an entire year's salary. He would also have no hope of being selected as high as 17 again. Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.This holdout benefits no one. The two sides need to shuffle their papers and come up with some deal that allows everyone to save face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'm as unhappy about this holdout as anyone.Still, I have complete confidence that it will get done, and as walzav said...I have utmost confidence in Landon Johnson to fill the role admirably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBax Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think Pollack has little to no leverage at this late date. He has missed the majority of training camp and will be of little use to the defense whether he signs today or the day before the season opener. Therefore, why would the Bengals budge? The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the team pulls their offer off the table. Pollack's other problem is that he has to sign before the first game or he will lose 1/16th of his salary...a game check or two would likely exceed the amount of money being argued over right now.As for the doom's day scenario of a season long holdout, Pollack would be committing financial suicide. He would reenter the draft, but lose an entire year's salary. He would also have no hope of being selected as high as 17 again. Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.This holdout benefits no one. The two sides need to shuffle their papers and come up with some deal that allows everyone to save face.This is a great post that makes absolute sense. This guy needs to get off his arse and get to camp. NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money. Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As the official I hate Pollak we should just sign him and send his ass packing as soon as we can! Landon at least had the training camp! Great point about the Bengals this is all Pollak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money? We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right.... Developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As the official I hate Pollak we should just sign him and send his ass packing as soon as we can! Landon at least had the training camp! Great point about the Bengals this is all Pollak! It's official, real Bengals fans hate YOU not David Pollack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other. Welcome aboard, wraith. Enjoy the 'zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money? We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right.... Developing. <stalks off the board to find kirk and slap him silly until he talks> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other. From a co-former insider -- welcome Wraith. There are some bright guys there, but I found it to be becoming all to co-dependent last pre-season. Hope you enjoy the zone - I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzoo Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As the official I hate Pollak we should just sign him and send his ass packing as soon as we can! Landon at least had the training camp! Great point about the Bengals this is all Pollak! Please, please, please....Stop polluting my brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money? We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right.... Developing. <stalks off the board to find kirk and slap him silly until he talks> I have sources now... step aside Geoff, there's a new sheriff in town. (just kiddin', 'butch') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other. First, welcome. With the formalities now out of the way let me take another moment and apologize to you for the horrible things I'll almost certainly say to you in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.First, welcome. With the formalities now out of the way let me take another moment and apologize to you for the horrible things I'll almost certainly say to you in the future. Wait a second, why didn't we get that service announcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.For myself I am here from there because, I while I realize this is just an escape from reality I found I would rather spend it with decent people with football takes than with a bunch of complete jackasses who spend all their time flaming each other.First, welcome. With the formalities now out of the way let me take another moment and apologize to you for the horrible things I'll almost certainly say to you in the future. Wait a second, why didn't we get that service announcement? Wraith, that Hair will make you laugh...but not without a price However, one benefit to coming on board is that all of your sins are now forgiven, so you got that (I know a guy)Secondly, I've got 200 really good seats reserved in heaven, so let me know if you want in on that...a lot of guys here are on the bubble, so we have plenty of roomAnd finally, all Browns fans are going to Hell, but they won't get the warm corner, that's reserved for the Ravens fans...apparently God's a Bengals fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out. Say what you will about the guy, he never fails to surprise. He's gone from trading Chad and Rudi for draft picks, to cutting our current draft picks out of spite. If you're lucky he'll get drunk and explain how he commits trans-Atlantic wire fraud at his local whorehouse. Not to mention what he thinks of Mexicans, homosexuals and southerners.A classy guy, all-around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 As a former Bengals Insider poster I have to apologize for Spain...yes, he is here because we threw him out.Say what you will about the guy, he never fails to surprise. He's gone from trading Chad and Rudi for draft picks, to cutting our current draft picks out of spite. If you're lucky he'll get drunk and explain how he commits trans-Atlantic wire fraud at his local whorehouse. Not to mention what he thinks of Mexicans, homosexuals and southerners.A classy guy, all-around. That, for some reason makes me laugh. Sounds like a derelict uncle I have. He also likes moonshine quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Thanks Andy I appreciate that and it couldnt be more true, Im kinda isolated and have developed my own opinions, so they might not match you guys. Yeah Im also kinda of a hot head when it comes to my team but let me asure you I bleed black and orange! Oh I love moonshine, Americans make the best whiskey in the world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Oh I love moonshine, Americans make the best whiskey in the world! Yeah .... we kinda have to .. You know ... it puts us all in the right frame of mind to have all the fat southern girls screwing the Mexicans and their girlfriends.. while we're all drunk on moonshine. Andy ... sorry if I missed anyone. I was trying to get them all equal air time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 I think Pollack has little to no leverage at this late date. He has missed the majority of training camp and will be of little use to the defense whether he signs today or the day before the season opener. Therefore, why would the Bengals budge? The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that the team pulls their offer off the table. Pollack's other problem is that he has to sign before the first game or he will lose 1/16th of his salary...a game check or two would likely exceed the amount of money being argued over right now.As for the doom's day scenario of a season long holdout, Pollack would be committing financial suicide. He would reenter the draft, but lose an entire year's salary. He would also have no hope of being selected as high as 17 again. Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.This holdout benefits no one. The two sides need to shuffle their papers and come up with some deal that allows everyone to save face. Have to agree with Bax. This is the most common sense post I've seen concerning this whole sordid mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Reds fan you have no idea how true you are! I miss a night down in brownsville, EU women want 10 dates before you get any. The whores kinda suck altohugh free you cant beat! Their just not motivated! However an average girl on jim beam will blow your mind! Oh go bengals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 Thus, the contract he agreed to next season would have no where near the $7.7 million in guaranteed money.Where did you see that the Bengals offered him $7.7 million in guaranteed money? We're going to find out the exact difference between Pollack's demands and the Bengals offer within the next 24-hours...PS, all of those blaming the Bengals could be right.... Developing. <stalks off the board to find kirk and slap him silly until he talks> I have sources now... step aside Geoff, there's a new sheriff in town. (just kiddin', 'butch') So give already. You got the skinny, spill it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 And finally, all Browns fans are going to Hell, but they won't get the warm corner, that's reserved for the Ravens fans...apparently God's a Bengals fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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