WR Trade with Eagles??

[Section 310]

Just saw on profootballtalk that Pinkston tore his achilles and is out for the year. Given that the Eagles are smack dab in the middle of their window of opportunity I wonder if it would be possible for the Bengals to swing a trade with Philly. Not a player for player pick, but rather someone like PW, or Kelly Washington for a 3rd rounder next season. Remember the Bengals did this with New Orleans a couple of years ago...Curtis Keaton for a 4th??

WR is probably our deepest position.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[Kirkendall]

It's definately our deepest position, but I don't think it's deep enough, with the concerns about Warrick, to trade someone and be ok. I think if a trade would happen, we'd be short then.

[HairOnFire]

Let me be the first to mention DT/NT Corey Simon and the Eagles willingness to accept a 2nd and a 3rd in trade.

Trade Walters for Simon!!!!!

[bengalsLB]

to bad we don't have the cap room

[HairOnFire]

I was only joking.

That said, somebody would have mentioned it seriously so I figured why not throw it out there?

[bengalsLB]

it would be sweet to have corey simon though

[Buck]

I'd take anything on profootballtalk with a grain of salt.

Edit: It's on the Eagles homepage, too, though. That's bad luck for him.

[Whur CHad At?]

I don't want Todd Stinkston, ID take PWubb over Stinkston any day

[kingwilly]

Stinkson is out. Ealges need WR's. We have WR's.

How about we send Kelly Washington and a 4th rounder?

Or KW and Tory james straight up. I wonder if the cap could handle that?

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Eagles are hurtin', too bad about Pinkston, and Owens with a bothersome groin who's out for now.

That team needs another WR bad, I'm sure they'll wait for cuts after their first preseason game to pluck one, or at some point.

[andybren]

I don't want Todd Stinkston, ID take PWubb over Stinkston any day

You're joking, right? Nobody trades for an injured player.

Regardless, I don't think the Eagles would bite on anybody we'd be willing to part with (Warrick, Washington). Anybody lower than that can be had for free in a few weeks.

[CantStop85]

I don't want Todd Stinkston, ID take PWubb over Stinkston any day

You're joking, right? Nobody trades for an injured player.

Regardless, I don't think the Eagles would bite on anybody we'd be willing to part with (Warrick, Washington). Anybody lower than that can be had for free in a few weeks.

Yup, unless a team is willing to give up a true #1 or #2 receiver, then the Eagles are going to wait a few weeks to pick up another team's leftovers.

[schweinhart]

Let me be the first to mention DT/NT Corey Simon and the Eagles willingness to accept a 2nd and a 3rd in trade.

Trade Walters for Simon!!!!!

You're scary Hair

[DontPushMe]

You guys are crazy. There is no point to us trading a receiver. CJ and TJ are untradeable because they are necessary parts of the team. Warrick is untradeable because he is injured. Henry is untradeable becasue hes a rookie and you dont trade rookie 3rd round picks before they see the feild, plus we wouldnt get value back anyway on an unproven product. The only one that could possibly be traded is Washington, but i think that would be foolish as well. He played well as our #3 WR the past 2 years, and with Warrick injured, and rookies behind him, I see no reason why he wont be our #3 again this year.

[Section 310]

You have to give something of value to get something of value. No one

is suggesting that our WR corps is better off without Warrick or Washington, but if the team were able to secure a 3rd or 4th rounder, then make the deal.

I think a guy like Washington could draw some interest. He is young and has had two decent seasons. Receivers typically make a huge jump in their 3rd year. If the Bengals parted ways with KW, they still have Henry, Warrick, and Russell to step into that spot. Heck, even Walter, Perry, and Broussard may be the one to jump up and claim the position.

[redsbengalsbucks]

You have to give something of value to get something of value. No one

is suggesting that our WR corps is better off without Warrick or Washington, but if the team were able to secure a 3rd or 4th rounder, then make the deal.

I think a guy like Washington could draw some interest. He is young and has had two decent seasons. Receivers typically make a huge jump in their 3rd year. If the Bengals parted ways with KW, they still have Henry, Warrick, and Russell to step into that spot. Heck, even Walter, Perry, and Broussard may be the one to jump up and claim the position.

Why trade away a third year talent for an unproven 3rd or 4th rounder next year? I have never said this before but I agree with Dontpushme.

[Qc_Bengals]

You guys are crazy. There is no point to us trading a receiver. CJ and TJ are untradeable because they are necessary parts of the team. Warrick is untradeable because he is injured. Henry is untradeable becasue hes a rookie and you dont trade rookie 3rd round picks before they see the feild, plus we wouldnt get value back anyway on an unproven product. The only one that could possibly be traded is Washington, but i think that would be foolish as well. He played well as our #3 WR the past 2 years, and with Warrick injured, and rookies behind him, I see no reason why he wont be our #3 again this year.

I agree with you on this one

[OICanDoThat]

Why trade away a third year talent for an unproven 3rd or 4th rounder next year? I have never said this before but I agree with Dontpushme.

Because with the roster as it presents itself right now, you WILL have a crunch at preseason's end. Unless you just want to give a WR talent away, you should try and trade and get something for him. KW, being a FA next year, along with PDub, put them at the forefront of tradeable guys, with PDub's cost probably more likely to get him traded, even though he seems like a better bet to conttribute than KW.

I would be ecstatic to get an early second day pick for a WR that we may end up just releasing in a month and a half.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Why trade away a third year talent for an unproven 3rd or 4th rounder next year?  I have never said this before but I agree with Dontpushme.

Because with the roster as it presents itself right now, you WILL have a crunch at preseason's end. Unless you just want to give a WR talent away, you should try and trade and get something for him. KW, being a FA next year, along with PDub, put them at the forefront of tradeable guys, with PDub's cost probably more likely to get him traded, even though he seems like a better bet to conttribute than KW.

I would be ecstatic to get an early second day pick for a WR that we may end up just releasing in a month and a half.

This isn't baseball, guys get hurt too much, the Bengals would be idiots to trade any of their WR's at this point I think unless they had a specific reason to do so.

Unlike the Reds, the Bengals are not in a continual rebuilding mode anymore, they need to win this year - they'll need every good WR they can keep.

[StripesNTn]

Somebody is getting cut. I wish we could keep all this young talent on the roster but just wont happen. Eagles will wait and take someone off waivers as a stop gap. KW is really only tradable WR we have. Worth floating but unlikly.

Do the eagles wish they still had Mr. Mitchel

[NJ29]

How about this trade...

Kelley Washington for Quentin Mikell, the backup strong safety.

Just a thought.

[HairOnFire]

I mentioned Simon for a reason. There were reports out of Philly some time ago that the Bengals had contacted the Eagles about a trade, and more recent ones claim the two teams had actually agreed on trade compensation. However, the potential deal broke down due to Simon's contract demands. Happened to the Ravens as well. Apparently the Bills are interested now. Regardless, if the Eagles are in the market for a WR I imagine Simon is still the player on their roster the Bengals would be interested in since they made no moves in the draft to upgrade the interior. But again, where do you find the cap room if the players contract demands are too great or inflexible?

[HairOnFire]

Ooops, sorry for the rehash. I should have guessed that somebody would have started a new thread about Simon instead of just slipping the latest update here.

[DontPushMe]

I mentioned Simon for a reason. There were reports out of Philly some time ago that the Bengals had contacted the Eagles about a trade, and more recent ones claim the two teams had actually agreed on trade compensation. However, the potential deal broke down due to Simon's contract demands. Happened to the Ravens as well. Apparently the Bills are interested now. Regardless, if the Eagles are in the market for a WR I imagine Simon is still the player on their roster the Bengals would be interested in since they made no moves in the draft to upgrade the interior. But again, where do you find the cap room if the players contract demands are too great or inflexible?

Some people need to listen to our coach when he speaks about the team. They didnt upgrade DT because it didnt need an upgrade. The problem last year was at the linebacker level. Bryan Robinson will replace Tony Williams nicely, and we will be fine. We have no need to upgrade the DT position is such a way. Sure it would have been nice, because we have no outstanding player there, but its not worth changing the teams direction and messing up our cap over it.

[TJJackson]

I just got back from the orange-black game (with the orange team wearing white in the very hot and humid field) and Kelly Washington played well. Caught a touchdown, did the squirrel thing, etc.

He's definitely a tradeable player - young, good size, has had a good camp, and is aching to be a starter somewhere. Assuming his contract would not be a big cap hit either. He might (pure guess on my part) even be willing to renegotiate his contract to get a chance to start. Maybe.

That said, Warrick is a question mark, but let's not forget we probably have our 3 receiver in any of Warrick (if healthy), Walters (who is underrated as a posession guy, imho), Chris Henry, or Cliff Russell, who had some excellent catches today. That's not even to mention Broussard or any of the FA/Practice squad guys or Tab Perry.

As soon as I heard (on the radio on the way back from Georgetown about an hour ago) that Todd Pinkston was out for the year, I immediately thought - we have to cut one of these guys anyway. Let's get something for a player we'd cut from a team desperate for what we have in plenty - WRs. Strike while the iron is hot, and all that. I am confident that if we trade away Washington, one or more of the others will step up. There's just simply a ton of depth there.

One other thing you might not have thought of - if you think Kelly Washington will get cut, you don't want him ending up on another AFC North team where his knowlege of the Bengals could provide an edge to a team we play twice every year. Why not trade him out of the division altogether to minimize the damage of the team he joins gaining an advantage on the Bengals? We won't play the Eagles (in regular season) again for a while, so why not send him there?

This will also get more snaps for Tab Perry and Chris Henry, so they can better evaluate them against the many other backup WRs we have at the moment.

I honestly don't see a minus in this......