walzav29 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I called in to Sirius football yesterday, and asked John Riggins since he has the highest rushing yards for a white running back, does he think there will be another white running back to gain more yards. I can't think of another white back to have a 1000 yards since. That's almost 20 years. You would have thought I had a hood on. Riggins was pissed. I just found it interesting that there are no white backs. I wouldn't care if an Iraqi guy gained a grand for the Bengals, I just want my team to win. Do any of you guys see malice in that question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who? Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I don't see anything wrong with that question, although a lot of people would find that racist it's really not at all. This topic always frustrates me because whenever you question anything about a minority automatically you are a racist somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 That's exactly how they acted. He was going on about how he should just be looked at as a back, and that is fine. It just seems strange that there are no white halfbacks. Just like everyone used to bring up that there were no black quarterbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 That is a legitimate question. There is no problem with it.The PROBLEM was that you put Riggins into a spot on national radio that made him face a racial question. He was probably squirming because there is little room to answer that type of question without offending somebody. He took the easy way out...he came across as offended and upset.There was no reason for him to get mad. The response from him that you gave was valid, I just don't see why he got mad. Basically, you made him feel uncomfortable and he didn't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Damn you Amricans are a trip! Heres something for you to consider. The americans are so mixed that most black men in the US would be considerd mixed in Europe. The major part of african americans are considerd cofee with milk. They are not true africans. It trips me out that the most mixed country in the world is the most racist. Its not just the african americans either, The white people seem to have african blood especially in the south! In short you all a bunch of damn mutts discriminating over shades of colours. You want to see real Africans go to africa you want to see real white go to Russia and you will begin to realize how closely related you are! (not very much)You bunch of mutts PS not to forget the Mexicans, Mexicans ere more Indian than spainish, People in Spain are white as milk, The Spainish never had a mass migration to their colonies as the ebglish did. Would you people of the americas realize your developing your own lil thing there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Who is the all-time leading Mexican running back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 edited out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 I don`t see how it is considered racist to notice a person`s skin color...I guess this smiley is racist too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownflushitdown Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 they still haven't let mexicans in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 What's questionable is making a generalization based on skin color. That's the problem Riggins had with the question, and it's the problem with where this thread is headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 There is no generalization about skin color. It is just stating a fact. Just like it was a big story when the Vikings were about to have the 1st "minority" owner. If it isn't an issue in the NFL why is there a story like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 If there were no black quarterbacks in the NFL for 20 years, don't you think someone would notice that? I couldn't care less one way or the other. It should not be an insult to ask if there will be another white guy to rush for more yards. That political correctness is so phony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Damn guys its social why more african americans play sports, its called prop 28 and affirmitive action. African Americans are encouraged(for wright or wrong) to play sports. If you dont believe me the proof is that this doesnt happen in other countries. I know this is way oversimplifying this issue as it is very complex and has its roots in segregation. The plain and simple truth is this , a large afrcian american representaion in American sports is a social anomilee. That is distinct to the american culture. You only need to look at another country and their sports and you will realize the amounts of players an raced are represenetive of population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBin2k7 Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Why is it that everytime you hear someone bring up Doug Williams name he is the only Black QB to win a Super BowlI don't think it's a bad question, I think it's a fairly interesting fact or stat. Off topic, CBS Sportsline did a story after the all star game about the dwindling number of black athletes that participated in this years All Star game. It was a pretty interesting story.I believe Mike Alstott got close one year he ran for 950 yds in 99, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Yep basically, you alll are still segregating yourselves. This is the lingering racism in your culture. Hokey=White rich kids NBA= Poor black kids (europeans) Baseball = White and mexican(notice the Mexican does not have the segregation hang over) NFL=appears to be the first sport that is changing the social paradigm becaue you will have predominantly white teams in the rural areas and predominantly black teams in the rural areas) So when scoutnig for uni begins the races mix. So why more african americans. thats where prop 28 comes in. An african american athlete does not have to meet the same academic standards as a wasp. so you see a miss representaion. The real ? is do you support affirmitive action in sports? While I believe that affirmitive action is necesary but in sports im against it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Here's a pretty in-depth look at walzav's question:http://www.jonentine.com/reviews/Orlando_01.htmNote: The article appears to be from the Orlando Sentinel. The guy whose site is posted on is one of the sources quoted by reporters in the story, and his position is that it is primarily the result of genetics. I do not know who this guy is, if he's legit or a nutjob, and I have no opinion on his opinion. This was just the only place I found the article posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted July 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Great article. It seems odd to me that black people want to see black owners, coaches, and quarterbacks so their kids can have someone to look up to that is black. Why can't it just be a good player? There appears to be a double standard when it comes to race in the NFL. Shame shame on asking a black college qb to move to rb, but there is no issue with the white hb getting moved to fb. Oh well. Riggins is a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 If it was genetics why wouldnt Black athletes dominate soccer the most popualr sport on the world? why is it just that big island that yo live on that seems to have this anomally? This genetic thing reminds me of what larry bird said"basketball is a blackmans game" when he was asked if their would be another white superstar. Well their are alot of white superstars in the NBA they are just not american! Why ? society thats why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Oh well. Riggins is a bitch. Yup. I'd argue that there wasn't anything wrong with the question you asked, but if you wanted a thoughtful reply maybe the question needed to be offered to someone other than John Riggins. His reputation doesn't seem to be built upon deep thinking. Instead, he's known for a bruising running style, mohawk haircuts, and passing out drunk under the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted July 26, 2005 Report Share Posted July 26, 2005 Oh well. Riggins is a bitch.Yup. I'd argue that there wasn't anything wrong with the question you asked, but if you wanted a thoughtful reply maybe the question needed to be offered to someone other than John Riggins. His reputation doesn't seem to be built upon deep thinking. Instead, he's known for a bruising running style, mohawk haircuts, and passing out drunk under the table. Exactly where I was headed. Riggins was a great, hard-headed runner. His transition to the booth, however, will likely be difficult because he needs a lot of sharpening even to get into that box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 His transition to the booth, however, will likely be difficult because he needs a lot of sharpening even to get into that box. Really? I thought it was because he never played as a Bengal. That seems to be the main factor for getting on the fast track to announcing NFL games, no matter what network it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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