Chucktkd Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 He barely played any last year and now there's three more rookies. We can't carry but so many lineman so how does he fit into the plans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 He barely played any last year and now there's three more rookies. We can't carry but so many lineman so how does he fit into the plans? He isn't going anywhere. ML referenced him as the T of the future on one side and Kleft as the T of the future on the other. Ghuiliac and Wilkerson are C/G types. Gotta love what ML has done to get ready to put new blood into the team's line. They badly needed that. Now these guys can serve a multi-year apprenticeship and step in when ready and when needed. It's how Cincy used to do things in the good ol' days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 IF Andrews and Kleft develop and are good enough to start at some point, by no means whatsoever is that a given.I always thought Kleft was viewed as a potential quality back-up and spot starter versus "the future" at either tackle spot.Andrews has the raw physical abilities to man the position well but that will take some more time and a lot of development.I seriously question Paul Alexander's ability to develop prospects like these into quality lineman.He hasn't done it once since he's been here and Andrews looked pretty terrible last year when he did play, and we haven't heard much about him since. He's also had injury problems obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 He is going to Play TE for us this year ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 I could see Andrews going in as a TE (or OT) on short yardage and goal line.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 He's one of the backups, he's the reason we did not pursue Munoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 He will be the goal line halfback, like the Fridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 He's one of the backups, he's the reason we did not pursue Munozditto... I think Marvin mentioned that when asked why they didn't pick MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Stacy the Giant looked like a more than capable pass protector in pre-season at RT. He moved D-linemen wherever he wanted them to go and showed great feet, balance, and agility. As he develops, he should be better prepared for double moves and the full range of D-linemen pass rush techniques.Vs. the run seems a question mark w/ Andrews. He is huge but does seem to lack the killer instinct needed to smashmouth block.It sounds like ML has moved Andrews to LT, where the pass protection skill will be more highly valued.Not sure why ML would imply that Andrews had something to do w/ Bengals not drafting Munoz unless it was spin. I'm pretty sure the Bengals didn't draft Munoz for the same reasons every other team didn't. If anything, the Kieft pick would have more to do w/ not drafting Munoz since it sounds like Kieft is headed for RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 dont think that Munoz will not become a Bengal shortly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 dont think that Munoz will not become a Bengal shortly.. no holding back walsh...you gotta share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Kieft is ready to start now if someone goes down. He's not a "project" to be coached up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 dont think that Munoz will not become a Bengal shortly..no holding back walsh...you gotta share I hope your right. Munoz could go to the practice squad and NFL Europe (if it survives). Then work his way up if he can.It'd be like Jarrett Payton. No doubt the Bears got heat for not drafting Walter's son but his dad's old buddy gave him a shot w/ the Titans and he showed he just might belong in the NFL in the Amsterdam game I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Andrews was a major project, but he is extremely athletic for his size. I too question if Paul Alexander is the man to develop this raw talent. I really wish they would find a position for Anthony Munoz. Possibly a part time player development position.I would also like to see the Bengals use Andrews as a fb on goal line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucktkd Posted May 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Thanks. I don't get a lot of info here in Maryland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I would also like to see the Bengals use Andrews as a fb on goal line. Why would you want to see that? So he would clog up the line and leave no hole for the running back?The boy has played hardly any football in his entire life. Let him learn one damned position already and master it before you try to turn him into something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I would also like to see the Bengals use Andrews as a fb on goal line.Why would you want to see that? So he would clog up the line and leave no hole for the running back?The boy has played hardly any football in his entire life. Let him learn one damned position already and master it before you try to turn him into something else. O.K. Mister Wizard then answer me this. Why would the Bengals draft a guy with so little football experience to begin with? Because, he has incredible athletic ability for his size. I am talking about an olympic caliber athlete lead blocking, not YOU. Everybody wants to be like New England. What do they do with Richard Seymour? That's what I thought.Mashing the first unblocked guy you encounter is not rocket science. Apparently understanding the concept is however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 If Stacy Andrews needs so much extra developmental time, then why isn't he playing in Europe? I thought that's where the developmental projects were relegated these days in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I could see Andrews going in as a TE (or OT) on short yardage and goal line....He did in fact go in at TE (extra-OT) at least a time or two last season ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 If Stacy Andrews needs so much extra developmental time, then why isn't he playing in Europe? I thought that's where the developmental projects were relegated these days in the NFL.I believe the reasoning is that the Bengals want their own people developing him and working with him at PBS in the off-season. I could be wrong but thought I've read that about him or some other players...somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I could see Andrews going in as a TE (or OT) on short yardage and goal line....He did in fact go in at TE (extra-OT) at least a time or two last season ... He wasn't used as a tight end, he was used as an extra tackle. He was asked to block at the line, not catch the ball or block on the move from the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I could see Andrews going in as a TE (or OT) on short yardage and goal line....He did in fact go in at TE (extra-OT) at least a time or two last season ... He wasn't used as a tight end, he was used as an extra tackle. He was asked to block at the line, not catch the ball or block on the move from the backfield. Actually, I believe he reported as Tackle eligible, on at least one occassion that I remember, which means he WAS an eligible receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 I could see Andrews going in as a TE (or OT) on short yardage and goal line....He did in fact go in at TE (extra-OT) at least a time or two last season ... He wasn't used as a tight end, he was used as an extra tackle. He was asked to block at the line, not catch the ball or block on the move from the backfield. Actually, I believe he reported as Tackle eligible, on at least one occassion that I remember, which means he WAS an eligible receiver. I see your ability to read needs work. I didn't say he wasn't an eligible receiver, I said he wasn't asked to catch the damned ball. He was asked to stand there and block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnip Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 I could see Andrews going in as a TE (or OT) on short yardage and goal line....He did in fact go in at TE (extra-OT) at least a time or two last season ... He wasn't used as a tight end, he was used as an extra tackle. He was asked to block at the line, not catch the ball or block on the move from the backfield. Actually, I believe he reported as Tackle eligible, on at least one occassion that I remember, which means he WAS an eligible receiver. I see your ability to read needs work. I didn't say he wasn't an eligible receiver, I said he wasn't asked to catch the damned ball. He was asked to stand there and block. That's what Tight Ends do. They block. Or they run routes. But they still block. So technically, he was a blocking tight end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 If Stacy Andrews needs so much extra developmental time, then why isn't he playing in Europe? I thought that's where the developmental projects were relegated these days in the NFL.I believe the reasoning is that the Bengals want their own people developing him and working with him at PBS in the off-season. I could be wrong but thought I've read that about him or some other players...somewhere. Right On Shula... They work him at their complex... He's raw.. He allready can run block and lay some licks.. It's his footwork on pass blocking and he needs to intensify his playing... He has Levi's laid back attitude.. Not saying they arent putting the effort out.. They dont have the "mean streak" that some coaches like in a player... I think Pollack is going to intensify the whole damn team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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