Strong Safeties Falling

[Section 310]

Profootballtalk.com said that Shazor ran a 4.7 at

the U of M pro-day. That means both he and

Thomas Davis lack the high end speed teams

want to see in a protype SS.

What now? Does this mean we go LB or DT with

#17? Does the team roll the dice and hope to grab

a SS in the 3rd or 4th round? Does TE move up

on the priority list?

[BengalszoneBilly]

Profootballtalk.com said that Shazor ran a 4.7 at

the U of M pro-day. That means both he and

Thomas Davis lack the high end speed teams

want to see in a protype SS.

What now? Does this mean we go LB or DT with

#17? Does the team roll the dice and hope to grab

a SS in the 3rd or 4th round? Does TE move up

on the priority list?

BN1281 ain't gonna like this news being the chief engineer aboard the "Shazor Train!"

[ArmyBengal]

Profootballtalk.com said that Shazor ran a 4.7 at

the U of M pro-day. That means both he and

Thomas Davis lack the high end speed teams

want to see in a protype SS.

What now? Does this mean we go LB or DT with

#17? Does the team roll the dice and hope to grab

a SS in the 3rd or 4th round? Does TE move up

on the priority list?

D**N IT Shazor !!! Oh well, like I have said before, there are many talented Safeties in this draft and I'm sure ML and his coaches will get "their" man. As far as "what now", I can't help but wonder how much they might be looking WR at #17 if they don't trade down or here's another idea... Since there is no definitive lower down, maybe move up... Just thinking here since we all seemed convinced of trading down... Hmmmm I feel a new thread coming on...

WHODEY !!!

[Section 310]

Army Bengal, are you active, reserves, vet?

I just looked at OurLads.com and their draft

was updated yesterday. It has the Bengals taking

Brodney Pool, the safety from Oklahoma. He is

fast (4.44) but only 207lbs.

[ArmyBengal]

Army Bengal, are you active, reserves, vet?

Active Sergeant First Class / E-7. Medical Instructor at wonderful Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas. I love this place and my job !!!

WHODEY !!!

[Section 310]

I was active for a couple of years right out of high school. I did my

basic/AIT at Ft. Knox and was stationed in Germany...part of 1st Armor

Division. I don't miss it...

I remember getting up at 3:00 AM to watch MNF...back then the Bengals

were pretty good, so they always seem to be on at least once or twice

a year.

[TJJackson]

I just looked at OurLads.com and their draft was updated yesterday. It has the Bengals taking

Brodney Pool, the safety from Oklahoma. He is fast (4.44) but only 207lbs.

He actually has had his workout at the Oklahoma Pro Day, and wasn't quite so fast as you think

http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#okla

That said, he's still fast enough to play this spot.

Also, ML has already said he wants his safeties interchangeable....this means from a draft perspective that he doesn't really want a true SS, he wants a FS type who can cover and tackle. So I think he's looking at Bullocks and Pool in day 1, if I had to make a guess. I prefer Bullocks on the basis of character, but Pool might be ok too

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...shbullocks.html

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/playerpro...rodneypool.html

(mind you, the listed speeds on these links are not fully up to date)

Another possibility is Georgia Tech's James Butler, who had a solidly good 40 at his pro day as well: http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#gatech

[Section 310]

The Brodney character seems a bit smallish to me. We need

a guy who will be able to step up and punch Jamal Lewis

right in the mouth. Can Pool do that for us?

[TJJackson]

How big do you think Madieu is?

http://www.bengals.com/team/players.asp?player_id=352

[Section 310]

Yeah, 193 lbs., that's why we are looking for a strong

safety.

[TJJackson]

I think you're missing my point.

Marvin Lewis doesn't want a strong safety. He wants a safety - one that can play either SS or FS interhangeably. He's stated this several times.

At 193 lbs, Madieu was able to do both, and that's what ML will want the new guy to do as well.

Ergo, a 200-210 pound guy, as long as he can cover and tackle, should be fine.

[schweinhart]

Another possibility is Georgia Tech's James Butler, who had a solidly good 40 at his pro day as well: http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#gatech

James must have got a new pair of shoes since the combine. 4.49 40 and his vertical goes from 40-inch to 44. The ceiling is high for this guy.

[BengalNation1281]

Profootballtalk.com said that Shazor ran a 4.7 at

the U of M pro-day. That means both he and

Thomas Davis lack the high end speed teams

want to see in a protype SS.

What now? Does this mean we go LB or DT with

#17? Does the team roll the dice and hope to grab

a SS in the 3rd or 4th round? Does TE move up

on the priority list?

BN1281 ain't gonna like this news being the chief engineer aboard the "Shazor Train!"

Well damn.

I kinda had a feeling that that was going to happen.

I would still like to have him, but I always maintained that I would be happy with wherever Marvin goes at SS. Davis, Shazor, Brimmer, Bullocks, Nicholson, Butler...there are too many good ones to be upset with the choice.

I'm still on the train, but I can see why others wouldn't be at this point.

[TJJackson]

Oh my god.

Thomas Davis ran a sub 4.5 at his pro day.

http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/362368.html

[membengal]

Oh my god.

Thomas Davis ran a sub 4.5 at his pro day.

http://nfldraft.scout.com/2/362368.html

I have fallen back in love with him at #17 if he is there.

[HairOnFire]

Thomas Davis ran a sub 4.5 at his pro day.

[bengalboomer7]

Very interesting

[BengalNation1281]

Dizzamn...I can't argue with a sub-4.5 40.

Davis now looks like a much more appealing option at 17 than he already did.

Hmmm....

[TJJackson]

I look at it as a good thing even if we don't get him, as it probably pushes him into the top 17 and therefore pushes down the group, giving us a better chance to pick up someone we want.

I stilll think Marvin would make him a LB is we drafted him.....

[schweinhart]

Davis would add a lot of versatility to the D like Madieu did last year. Davis can plug holes at SS and proly all 3 LB positions if needed. He's already moved back and forth between S and LB at UGA and that's better proof of what he can do than projecting that a SS can go LB or vice versa.