jjakq27 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Lance McAlister referenced this story on his show yesterday afternoon and I posted it here from his blog page. I found it a little distressing to think that things are still this disjointed. ESPN Insider SCOUT on Bengals front office: OUCH Cincinnati BengalsAt first glance, this looks like the most confusing and dysfunctional front office in the NFL, and it is difficult to analyze who has the power---but the Bengals believe in their system, and at the end of the day, that might be all that counts.As usual, at the top is Mike Brown, who runs the entire organization. Brown gives his coaches and advisers a lot of power in personnel decisions and will rarely go against Marvin Lewis.Katie Blackburn and husband, Troy, run the business side of the organization. Depending whom you talk to, they can be considered very efficient or a major roadblock when it comes to contracts and personnel -- but they do have significant power and are part of the Brown family. Further complicating things are the roles of Bill Tobin, John Cooper and Bruce Coslet. All three are listed as consultants and theoretically are film evaluators, but they have the ear of upper management, which adds more voices to the decision-making process.Pete Brown is senior VP of player personnel; Paul Brown Jr. is VP of player personnel; and Duke Tobin is director of player personnel, but most of his expertise is on the pro side. Longtime scout Jim Lippincott is director of FB operations and really the face of the muddled Bengals' front office; he keeps everything running and organized.There are no scouts in this organization, which means the coaches are heavily involved in player workout and personnel decisions. The way this department is set up, it gives the Bengals' coaches a lot of opportunities for film evaluation--but nothing substitutes an area scout knowing the players in his area. As a result, with coaches involved, the workout and film production becomes most important and character and intelligence are not scrutinized. There are a lot of titles here, but the power structure is most confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 That's becauese Mike Brown is a dumbass and inherited nothing from his father but his last name and fat wallet. And the bastard is so cheap he will do anything to keep all that money in his wallet I wish you wouldn't have even posted this JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 That's becauese Mike Brown is a dumbass and inherited nothing from his father but his last name and fat wallet. And the bastard is so cheap he will do anything to keep all that money in his wallet I wish you wouldn't have even posted this JJ Don't slay the mesenger, Boomer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Mike Brown is awesome, i dont know why you guys hate him so much. He does all he can to feild a competitive team. Its not his fault our useless scouts consistantly find busts to draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Mike Brown is awesome Holy crap dude, how do you fit both CDs and Mike Browns in your mouth at the same time ?? Mike Brown is a pathetic owner period. He makes so much money off of this organization and how much does he put back into it ?? Enough said.WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 I don't think any of us should be surprised at this. I thought it was widely known. To the outsider, I'm sure it sounds weird, but, other than the scouts and "consultants", this is pretty much Bengals de facto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Sorry JJ, those anger management classea aren't working too well.Second;y, if you would even read the stinking article DPM you would see where it says we don't even have scouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Yea BB7, I don't think the article is right in that respect. Greg Seamon and Earl Biederman are listed as scouts on Bengals.com. http://www.bengals.com/team/frontoffice.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 I don't think any of us should be surprised at this. I thought it was widely known. To the outsider, I'm sure it sounds weird, but, other than the scouts and "consultants", this is pretty much Bengals de facto. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJesus Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 There is no doubt who runs this ship ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Jeesh, must a slow news day to trawl this old chestnut out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted March 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 There is no doubt who runs this ship ! Hey BJ, that studium sure looks good. My seats are just to the left of Marvin's arm....is it August yet?Seriously, I guess most of this is common knowledge. However the part that surprised me was the part about guys like Coslet and Cooper having so much direct involvement. Also, Kirk I think you are right, about the scouts. I know Greg Seamon was being paid by the Cowboys last year but then I think the Bengals are paying him now. But I am not sure if his title is still scout or something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richmond_mat Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Mike Brown is awesome, i dont know why you guys hate him so much. He does all he can to feild a competitive team. Its not his fault our useless scouts consistantly find busts to draft. I've been leaning towards this and now I'm finally convinced that Pushy is an idiot.Appreciating Dillon's football prowess is one thing, but to think this is utter nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Mike Brown is awesome, i dont know why you guys hate him so much. He does all he can to feild a competitive team. Its not his fault our useless scouts consistantly find busts to draft. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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