ArmyBengal Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Bengals | Warrick Expects to be Ready by March - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 19:13:43 -0800Updating a previous report, according to Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com, Cincinnati Bengals WR Peter Warrick (shin, knee) expects to be healthy enough to participate in the Bengals' offseason workouts that begin in late March. "We see the beginning of the season as March 7 and we expect he'll be ready to go," said Jim Gould, Warrick's Cincinnati-based agent. "We've gotten a better handle on things physically, and he's come along well. He can't wait." Head coach Marvin Lewis has let it be known that Warrick must do a better job in his offseason conditioning this year. Bengals | Cutting Back Training Camp - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:17:54 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said the team would reduce their time spent in training camp by about a half of a week and instead return to Cincinnati to train and allow players to adjust.Bengals | Offseason Rehab Crucial for Warrick - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:14:00 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Peter Warrick (shin, knee) will need to do a better job with his offseason rehabilitation this year, according to coach Marvin Lewis. "We learned a valuable lesson last year to stay on top of things better," Lewis said of club medical contact with Warrick. "He's going to have to continue to meet us in the middle on that. I think he understands the urgency of that now." Warrick was hampered by knee and shin injuries this year. Bengals | Perry Injury Update - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:13:15 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals RB Chris Perry (sports hernia) underwent successful surgery to repair a sports hernia and will begin extensive rehabilitation Feb. 1. Bengals | Looking to Keep Defensive Scheme - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:12:12 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said the team's new defensive coordinator would have to fit into the current defensive scheme being utilized. The club is searching for a new coordinator after firing Leslie Frazier. Bengals | Re-Signing Houshmandzadeh Not Imminent - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:10:51 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said the team could allow soon-to-be free agent WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh to test the open market this offseason. Lewis noted the club has held preliminary talks with Houshmandzadeh's representatives regarding a new deal. Bengals | Re-Signing Ru. Johnson Not Imminent - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:06:56 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said the team could allow soon-to-be free agent RB Rudi Johnson to test the open market this offseason. Lewis noted the club has held preliminary talks with Johnson's representatives regarding a new deal. Bengals | Mandatory Minicamp Set - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:17:15 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis announced the team will conduct a mandatory minicamp on the third weekend in June. Bengals | Rookie Minicamp Set - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:16:53 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports the Cincinnati Bengals will conduct their rookie minicamp April 30 – May 1, which is the weekend immediately following the NFL Draft. The participants will include drafted rookies, undrafted rookie free agents and eligible veterans. Bengals | Pass Rusher Tops Offseason Wish List - from www.KFFL.comTue, 18 Jan 2005 15:15:14 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis emphasized a dominant pass rusher is the club's top priority heading into the offseason. Lewis mentioned free agency or the NFL Draft as two methods the team could use to bolster their defensive line.WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said the team could allow soon-to-be free agent WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh to test the open market this offseason. Lewis noted the club has held preliminary talks with Houshmandzadeh's representatives regarding a new deal.Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said the team could allow soon-to-be free agent RB Rudi Johnson to test the open market this offseason. Lewis noted the club has held preliminary talks with Johnson's representatives regarding a new deal.Here is what ML said..."In both cases, we have had good conversations with representation for both guys," Lewis said of efforts to re-sign them. "Within the next two, three weeks, we hope to have discussion from their point of view back and see where things are." "As we get closer to free agency, both sides have the opportunity to explore their options further."Nothing was said about how the team could "Allow" them to test the open market.Nor did ML say anything to indicate that the talks so far have been merely "preliminary".It takes time to become Fluent in "ML-Speak", it is a Learned Skill.This is my best guess on what he said..."In both cases, we have had good conversations with representation for both guys," Lewis said of efforts to re-sign them. "Within the next two, three weeks, we hope to have discussion from their point of view back and see where things are."The Bengals have made contract Offers and are waiting for a responce back from the agents."As we get closer to free agency, both sides have the opportunity to explore their options further."No player needs his team to "allow" him to test the open market, it is His Option.In this case the Bengals also have the Option of Tagging both players if they do not re-sign them in time.This is just my "take" on what was said.But it seems that Geoff Hobson "reads" it just about the same way as I do.Lewis hinted the club is waiting to hear back on offers to free agents Rudi Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh....The first day the Bengals can put the franchise tag on Johnson is Feb. 8, but Lewis said the timing isn’t as important as is making sure each side knows the other’s thoughts if they do decide to go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Rudi will be allowed to test the market. He'll just be wearing the franchise tag while he's doing it. TJ is anyone's guess right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 With all the RB's hitting the open market and a couple more of them looking for trades I think that they will put him out there and when no one bites we'll try to lower the price on him. This is where a good agent comes in. I remember a piece about Willis McGayhee and on draft day his agent made a fake phone call on national TV to Willis while sitting right beside him to make it look like a team was calling with interest. A couple of picks later Buffalo drafted him. I expect Rudi's agent to talk about how other teams want him and are making offers in hope to raise the Bengals price tag. This makes me think about the Sapp deal. Remember how much he got from the Raiders compared to how much we offered him. The raiders paid almost double(or more) for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan33 Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Rudi will be allowed to test the market. He'll just be wearing the franchise tag while he's doing it. TJ is anyone's guess right now.If we can't re-sign Housh, I'd love to see maybe Troy Williamson fall to the second round because he has amazing speed, and is one of those guys that likes to go all out. He kind of reminds me of a younger Chad Johnson... I've seen that he may go in the first round, but if we picking in the second round, and this kid was still there, Marvin better hop all over him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I don't care who's on the board, if our second round pick isn't a center then the brick is going into the TV screen at my house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 I don't care who's on the board, if our second round pick isn't a center then the brick is going into the TV screen at my house! AMEN !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Rudi will be allowed to test the market. He'll just be wearing the franchise tag while he's doing it. TJ is anyone's guess right now.Getting Rudi back for a single year at like 5 million (with no signing bonus) might be the best thing for the Bengals anyway.So if Rudi wants to go that route that would be his option.I really think that T.J. will sign before he ever becomes a FA.But if not, the Bengal's have the option to Tag him as a Transition Player which gives them the Right First Refusal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 I don't care who's on the board, if our second round pick isn't a center then the brick is going into the TV screen at my house! im betting money u will be throwing a brick into ur tv. im guessing a center in round 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 I don't care who's on the board, if our second round pick isn't a center then the brick is going into the TV screen at my house!im betting money u will be throwing a brick into ur tv. im guessing a center in round 4. Is it any cooincidence I live in a wooden home!?! Try firing a 40' log through your TV! Can't be done, and that's why I still have a TV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Rudi will be allowed to test the market. He'll just be wearing the franchise tag while he's doing it. TJ is anyone's guess right now. I'll guess Housh is long gone because he earned a higher payday than what his number would comp out at. In 2004, Housh proved he can produce big plays, use his height advantage well, get drilled after the catch and maintain possession, break tackles for yards after catch, and stay sure-handed during the season --- all the qualities of a valuable possession WR to complement a speed merchant WR. Proly not high enough for an avg. of the Top 10 payday, but likely more than the Bengals will be willing to pay unless they cut P-Dub out of the chute.IMO Housh would have to take a sizable cut to stay w/ Bengals. This is his chance to get proly as big of a payday as he'll ever get and I can't imagine he won't seize the opportunity to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 With all the RB's hitting the open market and a couple more of them looking for trades I think that they will put him out there and when no one bites we'll try to lower the price on him. This is where a good agent comes in. I remember a piece about Willis McGayhee and on draft day his agent made a fake phone call on national TV to Willis while sitting right beside him to make it look like a team was calling with interest. A couple of picks later Buffalo drafted him. I expect Rudi's agent to talk about how other teams want him and are making offers in hope to raise the Bengals price tag. This makes me think about the Sapp deal. Remember how much he got from the Raiders compared to how much we offered him. The raiders paid almost double(or more) for him.Well I don't think the Bengals will be taking Rudi and TJ's agents' "word for it" on the offers or money discussed that they get from other teams. But from Marv's comments, yes, they will be letting them test the FA market. The Brown family certainly doesn't want to set their own market price if they can't sign them before FA starts, so they low ball them, the agents ask for the sky, and then they move on and field interest.In this case it wouldn't suprise me at all if someone throws some dough at either or both of them since the Bengals' have not been overly verbal about their desire to keep them at all costs or tag either one. There are a few teams out there who could really use a Rudi or a TJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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