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On bengals.com says that "Lewis also said that any position other than quarterback or cornerback is on the table for the April draft.

Interesting! No Antrel Rolle or Carlos Rogers or Cory Webster (could play FS) or "Pac Man" Jones

IMO that starts to narrow the field a little: FS or SS or TE or DT or DE

-- thats what we've been saying anyway.

Thomas Davis, David Pollack, Travis Johnson are still candidates -- I the likely choice is "Johnson".

IMHO the Bengals are secretly planning to have a team of "Johnsons" to confuse the opposition!

April is just too far away.

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So does this contradict Coach Lewis' philosophy of drafting the BPA?

Well, one would assume there are limits to every philosophy. You think Bengaldom was up in arms over the Chris Perry selection? Let Alex Smith slide to 17th and get taken by Cincy and the nuclear bomb explosion on TV and in Bengalnation would be one for the ages...

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So does this contradict Coach Lewis' philosophy of drafting the BPA?

YES!

It's a flawed philosophy anyway.

True -- it is flawed. It's also another one of Marvin's buzz-phrases that he doesn't really follow. Just one of those things to throw out there when he's really not answering the question. You know, coachspeak. Everybody does it because you can fit almost any pick into it (except a kicker of course). Was Perry the BPA -- don't think so.

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With Kiewan Ratliff, Tory James and Deltha Oneal vying for playing time and then add Brooks, Bauman and Roberts as backups it would seem that the Bengals wouldnt be looking to add at that postition.

Im of the opinion that the D-Line was and is the primary target to upgrade this season... adding Cory Simon or drafting Antaaj Hawthorne cant do anything but make the run defense more effective..

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On bengals.com says that "Lewis also said that any position other than quarterback or cornerback is on the table for the April draft.

Interesting!  No Antrel Rolle or Carlos Rogers or Cory Webster (could play FS) or "Pac Man" Jones

Yeah. OTOH there are a lot of good young CBs in this draft, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a late first or early second day selection, esp. if we trade down for picks.

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So does this contradict Coach Lewis' philosophy of drafting the BPA?

YES!

It's a flawed philosophy anyway.

:lol::rolleyes:

I guess, as opposed to reaching for players to fill a position or need.

Yknow what?

Let's NOT go down this road again.

I concur. The bengals should just take whoever chrishcovga thinks and that's final!

(signed)

JoiseyCat (president, bengalszone gu-ruuvy draft guru fan club '05) ;)

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So does this contradict Coach Lewis' philosophy of drafting the BPA?

YES!

It's a flawed philosophy anyway.

True -- it is flawed. It's also another one of Marvin's buzz-phrases that he doesn't really follow. Just one of those things to throw out there when he's really not answering the question. You know, coachspeak. Everybody does it because you can fit almost any pick into it (except a kicker of course). Was Perry the BPA -- don't think so.

its just like every coach saying their opponent for the upcoming weak is very good and has alot of ability blah blah blah.

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Today's bengals.com write-up expands on the comment with the addition of an intent to trade...

FEELING THE DRAFT: Lewis says every position but quarterback and cornerback looks to be on the table in the draft and the team will be looking to trade out of a spot unless they’re looking at a player with a grade so high it doesn’t matter what position he plays.

So Marvin has just put a big neon "for sale" sign on the 17th pick. Why do I have a feeling that come the end of day 1 this April there are going to be a lot of posts like last year's: "How could they pass up [insert player's name] still on the board and then draft [insert position here]? And why did they pick [insert pick here] instead of [perceived better player at that position here]??? Mike effing Brown is still running this team! We suck!" :unsure:

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That sucks pretty bad! They're is so much talent in this draft and it looks like we're just going to throw that down the drain. We desperately need a DT/DE, and when our pick comes, they're should be a few solid guys left. Hawthorne, T.Johnson, and Pollack should all be available and if we trade our pick instead of picking one of these guys, I will be extremely pissed!

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That sucks pretty bad! They're is so much talent in this draft and it looks like we're just going to throw that down the drain. We desperately need a DT/DE, and when our pick comes, they're should be a few solid guys left. Hawthorne, T.Johnson, and Pollack should all be available and if we trade our pick instead of picking one of these guys, I will be extremely pissed!

Everything I hear says this draft is NOT top-heavy but that there will be real good value at middle to end of the 1st round and in the second and third rounds. If ML can pick up an extra pick or two, then by all means they should pinwheel back from 17. I would have no problem with that at all if they went in that direction. Doing that last year netted them a nice collection of talent that was infused into the team in 2004.

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That sucks pretty bad! They're is so much talent in this draft and it looks like we're just going to throw that down the drain. We desperately need a DT/DE, and when our pick comes, they're should be a few solid guys left. Hawthorne, T.Johnson, and Pollack should all be available and if we trade our pick instead of picking one of these guys, I will be extremely pissed!

Everything I hear says this draft is NOT top-heavy but that there will be real good value at middle to end of the 1st round and in the second and third rounds. If ML can pick up an extra pick or two, then by all means they should pinwheel back from 17. I would have no problem with that at all if they went in that direction. Doing that last year netted them a nice collection of talent that was infused into the team in 2004.

My sense is that Marvin would rather not use the first-round pick to address our defensive line/pass rush needs. What Marvin wants is the next Warren Sapp, and none of the kids in this year's draft look the part. Plus he already has three only lightly-blooded projects on the d-line is Askew, Geathers, and Moore. I doubt he's anxious to add yet another newbie to the corps.

With the likes of Rudi, TJ and Braham making FA dollars for the defense scarce -- especially if you're talking about going after a DT of any quality -- I suspect Lewis would like to pull another trade like last year's with Denver, except involving a DT instead of a CB.

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With the likes of Rudi, TJ and Braham making FA dollars for the defense scarce -- especially if you're talking about going after a DT of any quality -- I suspect Lewis would like to pull another trade like last year's with Denver, except involving a DT instead of a CB.

How about a Sam Adams -- always a good idea :)

RBs Travis Henry and Reuben Droughns are on the trading block right now, but haven't read about any one else including DTs.

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I'm not near as worried about this yyear's draft as last year. When the draft happened I thought Lewis was crazy! I can still remember cussing about Madieu. But we all know that last year's draft looked pretty good on the field this year and right now I'll just trust Marvin to hopefully pull out his trump card (if he has one) whenever Mike Brown wants to pick a guy!

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How about a Sam Adams -- always a good idea :)

RBs Travis Henry and Reuben Droughns are on the trading block right now, but haven't read about any one else including DTs.

:lol: Sammy will be in Buff. They're already paranoid enough over the possibility of losing Pat Williams (who's worth a look as a FA but at 32 I don't see him getting big-bucks offers, meaning he'll be back with the Jills).

I haven't heard anything either, but you never know what might shake loose when you dangle a first-round pick.

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