SycamoreBengal48 Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 from bengals.comBengals quarterback Carson Palmer said Monday that he expects to play Sunday against the Eagles on his improving left knee, but head coach Marvin Lewis has him listed as questionable. Palmer, who hasn't practiced with the team since spraining the medial collateral ligament Dec. 12 in New England, said he's hoping he can practice Thursday, but won't know until he meets with the doctors. if carson doesnt start next week i dont htink we have muc hof a chance getting 8-8. kitna got us the win yesterday but still didnt look good at all to me. sure the eagles have home field clinched and everything but i suspect they will still have their starters in for the first couple of series or the first quarter just to keep them from sitting around to long. after that they will have their lesser players in but its not lie kthey are jsut gonna lay down and let us win and with kitna in there i cant see it.please god let palmer play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 I don't know, with TO gone, I think every team has a decent chance against them. They are in psychological hell right now -- i.e. receivers that are afraid of big mean guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Antonio Bengal Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 What's so important about beating the Eagles? For all intensive purposes there's no difference between 7 - 9 and 8 - 8. Carson should only play if he is 100% and not at all otherwise. Don't get me wrong -- I want to finish off the season with a win, but putting Carson out there in a meaningless game just isn't worth it. The playoffs are out of the picture and we will finish third in the division even if we win and Baltimore loses.Besides, I think we do have a good chance of winning even with Kitna. The game yesterday was ugly, but Kitna was at the helm and we did find a way to win. If we show up with the same intensity and don't shoot ourselves in the foot, we'll have more than a good chance of winning. Combine that with Philly having a short week from being on MNF tonight, being shell-shocked from the T.O. situation, and wanting to rest players and get ready for the playoffs, you have a situation with "upset" written all over it. If Kitna and the boys go out there and have fun next Sunday, we could be looking at the first consecutive non-losing seasons since '89-'90. :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 What's so important about beating the Eagles? For all intensive purposes there's no difference between 7 - 9 and 8 - 8. Carson should only play if he is 100% and not at all otherwise. Don't get me wrong -- I want to finish off the season with a win, but putting Carson out there in a meaningless game just isn't worth it. The playoffs are out of the picture and we will finish third in the division even if we win and Baltimore loses. Agreed. It would be nice to have two .500 seasons in a row though, but you're right; the risk is NOT worth the reward. Hopefully it snows like crazy in Philly -- we're 1-0 in crazy-ass snow weather; so that's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHO DEY AGAIN? Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 I would rather see Palmer sit out after other players have been Ok'd to play then finding out later that they were misdiagnosed. They won this week in spite of Kitna's play. Who knows? They might be able to overcome his poor play again this week. I would like to see the rookie get a few snaps. At least he can throw it 40 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 I want to get to 8-8 however we do it. It would be the first time since 1989 and 1990 seasons that they would have put back to back non-losing seasons together. Baby steps and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 What's so important about beating the Eagles? For all intensive purposes there's no difference between 7 - 9 and 8 - 8. Carson should only play if he is 100% and not at all otherwise. Don't get me wrong -- I want to finish off the season with a win, but putting Carson out there in a meaningless game just isn't worth it. The playoffs are out of the picture and we will finish third in the division even if we win and Baltimore loses.Agreed. It would be nice to have two .500 seasons in a row though, but you're right; the risk is NOT worth the reward. Hopefully it snows like crazy in Philly -- we're 1-0 in crazy-ass snow weather; so that's good. 1-0 in crazy ass snow weather2-0 in night games2-0 in Orange JerseysYou know, I sense a pattern.... ANYTHING BUT A NORMAL 1PM START! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 The situation is the same for Philly as it has been for the last two weeks: if Carson is ready to go back in, back in he goes. If not, then we send Kit out and pray he holds onto the ball when it's snapped and occasionally gets it in the vicinity of a receiver when he throws. I also read that both Moore and Thornton got dinged up in the game, anyone seen any outlook on them? We're rapidly running out of defensive linemen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 What's so important about beating the Eagles? For all intensive purposes there's no difference between 7 - 9 and 8 - 8. Carson should only play if he is 100% and not at all otherwise. Don't get me wrong -- I want to finish off the season with a win, but putting Carson out there in a meaningless game just isn't worth it. The playoffs are out of the picture and we will finish third in the division even if we win and Baltimore loses.Besides, I think we do have a good chance of winning even with Kitna. The game yesterday was ugly, but Kitna was at the helm and we did find a way to win. If we show up with the same intensity and don't shoot ourselves in the foot, we'll have more than a good chance of winning. Combine that with Philly having a short week from being on MNF tonight, being shell-shocked from the T.O. situation, and wanting to rest players and get ready for the playoffs, you have a situation with "upset" written all over it. If Kitna and the boys go out there and have fun next Sunday, we could be looking at the first consecutive non-losing seasons since '89-'90. :player: Agree...In fact I wouldn't play anybody who isn't 100%.Not that I don't want to Win it is just that being Healthy for next year is more important at this point.We had some guys play out the season last year even though they were hurting.And some of them were still hurting at the start of this season.At this point I say that we do everything that we can to have people at 100% for 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 Put a brace on him if need be and suit him up and get him out there.This ain't baseball, it's FOOTBALL and Palmer needs to tough it out like all the other QB's who do so.He needs the experience, and a positive one will only help going into next season.The thought of watching Kitna fling little sissy passes all over the place again makes me ill frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Anyone else think that ML plays the injury list a lot like Shanahan. It's almost impossible to know what's going to happen on Sunday from the Wednesday injury descriptions. It seems that anyone listed as "questionable" is as likely to play as those listed "probable." And I don't really mean that he overlists it as much as that it's almost the same as "probable." A lot of probables don't play and and generally a couple of "questionables" do. Kinda frustrating from a fan standpoint, but I guess that's the point -- try to keep the opposition off guard. Just another interesting Lewis quirk -- always looking for an angle it would seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Palmers injured, he must suck. Lets cut him and get the cap hit over with. Maybe we can sign drew brees as a FA, and resign kitna to a huge deal. We cant have a player on our roster that gets injured.(yes im making fun of the people who diss chris perry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Palmers injured, he must suck. Lets cut him and get the cap hit over with. Maybe we can sign drew brees as a FA, and resign kitna to a huge deal. We cant have a player on our roster that gets injured.(yes im making fun of the people who diss chris perry) Chris Perry still sucks ! Sad thing though that Sports Hernia surgery. He'll never be 100 % after that. * For those that aren't familiar with the surgery, they take skin from either the Hamstring or other large muscle, stretch it and " hole " it to turn it into a piece of mesh skin, then attach it to the muscle lining around the hernia. The hope of that kind of surgery is that the new " lining " will regrow in the herniated area, and then it can be worked like normal skin and muscle tissue.** pretty substantial recovery time ** And of course there's always the risk that the scar tissue will prevent the " mesh " from healing completely leaving it open to a future tear !--- Discovery Channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubThumper Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Neither 8-8 nor 7-9 are winning seasons. Carson Palmer is destined to be the best quarterback the Bengals ever had if, and only if, he's not ruined by injury. It's worth risking to win a game if 1) there's something of substance on the l line and/or 2) he's healthy. There's nothing to prove if he's hurt. The Bengals already have a receiver looking at the possible end of his career due rushing back into action prematurely. Nothing would be more infuriating than to see Palmer ruined playing hurt in a relatively meaninless game. There's nothing but up-side in playing Kitna if Palmer's not really ready. Either Kitna gets his act together and puts the Bengals in position to win, or he further proves the need to get rid of him. The number 2 QB question needs to be settled one way or the other. Besides, if these guys can't do something to counteract whatever problems he has - come up bigger themselves to make him less likely to press, block better, settle him down, make the decision to pull him before losing the game - whatever it takes, then there are bigger problems than Kitna. They've had enough time to figure it out; it's time to perform, and Kitna is no longer an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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