HoosierCat Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Uh, might be jumping the gun a bit there army. ESPN outright LOVES this deal for the Reds, giving the Mariners a C and Cincy an A on the deal. (Also Seattle fans seem to hate the trade so there’s that too.) From espn’s insider piece: Quote The Reds and Mariners swung the Winker/Eugenio Suarez deal back in spring training (pitching prospect Brandon Williamson was the main get for the Reds in that one), so that helps explain this deal. The Reds know Seattle's system, and the two front offices have dealt with each other before, often the key to any successful transaction. And there's a reason the Reds agreed to this deal: They may have hit a home run. Marte was Kiley McDaniel's No. 12 prospect entering the season, and he's played at a level to remain at that ranking -- or perhaps even move up. He's hitting .270/.360/.460 for Everett in the high-A Northwest League at age 20, making him one of the youngest players in the league. His .820 OPS is well above the league average of .693, and he's been especially hot of late, hitting .370 with seven home runs in July (with 10 walks and just 12 strikeouts). You have to love that midseason adjustment/improvement. Marte's power potential has been his calling card, with Kiley giving it a 60 grade back in spring training. He may not stick at shortstop, but the bat and glove will easily profile at third base. Look, you never know with any prospect, and Marte wasn't exactly tearing it up before his July hot streak, but unless the hit tool suddenly evaporates, Marte looks at least like a solid big leaguer and one with star potential. For one-plus years of Castillo, that's about as good as you can expect. Except the Reds also got Arroyo, Seattle's second-round pick last year, out of Puerto Rico. He was a very young draft pick and doesn't turn 19 until August, but has been super impressive in the low-A California League, hitting .316/.385/.514 with 13 home runs. Yes, you have to adjust California League stats -- the league OPS is .755 -- but Arroyo is one of two 18-year-olds in the league with at least 93 at-bats and the other one is hitting .188. Oh, he's also 21-for-24 stealing bases with a chance to stick at shortstop. That looks like a top-100 prospect heading into 2023. Reds fans should be getting very excited about this deal. Except that's not all. Levi Stoudt was probably Seattle's No. 5 or No. 6 prospect via general consensus, although he's struggled at Double-A Arkansas with a 5.28 ERA and 13 home runs allowed in 87 innings. But he has big-time stuff, with a fastball in the upper 90s and a changeup that has been viewed as his best secondary option. The strikeout-to-walk ratio has been pretty good at 82 to 22, so with more refinement, there is still starter potential here. Andrew Moore (not the former Mariners prospect of the same name who is now in the minors with the Blue Jays) is a reliever with Bugs Bunny numbers at Modesto (58 K's, no home runs in 32.1 innings). A 14th-round pick last year out of Chipola Junior College in Florida, the numbers are at least intriguing. Look, any rebuild is painful, and while you can fault the Reds for starting to deal away their best players back in spring training, you can't fault the Reds for this trade. Grade: A https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/insider/story/_/id/34313524/mlb-trade-grades-seattle-mariners-land-trade-deadline-top-available-pitcher-deal-luis-castillo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Well then, allow me to pump the brakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 OT: Rest In Peace, Vin… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Sad news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Interesting set of threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 The Reds, Cubs and Pirates are horrible this year. Just a few days ago, the Reds were in 3rd place, ahead of both the Cubs and Pirates. Fast forward to today and they are back in the basement, having lost their 3rd in a row. There is still so much baseball to play this season and there is no hope of anything more than 3rd place. On a fun side note, they are playing the Cubs in the Field of Dreams game tonight. I will tune in to check that out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 11, 2022 Report Share Posted August 11, 2022 “People will come, Ray. People will most definitely come.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Watching the game now. Reds didn’t come to play tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, ArmyBengal said: Watching the game now. Reds didn’t come to play tonight. So a day ending in y, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted August 12, 2022 Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 Pretty much but that is a cool setting for a ball game for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ArmyBengal Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Shit, that happened months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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