cincyhokie Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Looking a bit closer at the QB situation across the NFL, you can see that it's the hardest position in the NFL to find consistent winning play. 16 of the 32 teams have starters that the team seems to be currently built around. However, only 9 of these starters are going to remain in the league after the next 3 years, more than likely. Brady, Brees, and Manning will all be retiring or severely declining in the next 2-3 years.That means that teams like the Patriots, Saints, and Broncos are going to have to start over.Some of the teams outright need a QB period. Some teams like the Bengals, Vikings, Jaguars, Bills, Dolphins, Eagles, Redskins all have QB's where the verdict is still out on them.What it tells you is that the Dalton situation is far from clear. You could go away from him but what we're going to see in the next couple of years and more is a HUGE demand for QB's. It's going to make it that much harder to replace him if the Bengals decide to part ways with him after 2015. AFCNorthBrowns- Need QBBengals- QuestionableRavens- Committed to QBSteelers- Committed but QB needs replacing in 2-3 yearsEastBills- QuestionableDolphins- QuestionableJets- QuestionablePatriots- Committed but QB needs replacing in 2-3 yearsSouthColts- Committed to QBJags- QuestionableTexans- Need QBTitans- Need QBWestBroncos- Committed but QB needs replacing in 1-2 yearsChargers- Committed to QBChiefs- Committed to QBRaiders- QuestionableNFCNorthBears- QuestionableLions- Committed to QBPackers- Committed to QBVikings- QuestionableEast Cowboys- Committed to QB but needs replacing in 2-3 yearsEagles- QuestionableGiants- Committed to QB but needs replacing in 2-3 yearsRedskins- QuestionableSouthBucs- Need QBFalcons- Committed to QBPanthers- Committed to QBSaints- Committed to QB but needs replacing in 2-3 yearsWestCardinals- Committed to QB but needs replacing in 2-3 years49'ers- QuestionableRams- QuestionableSeahawks- Committed to QB Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Yup. I've thought of it as The Great QB Desert. Look at football outsiders' QB rankings for 2014./>http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qbThey rank 44 QBs with a minimum 100 passes. Dalton is smack in the middle at 22. But if you look at the guys above Andy, only about 3 (Tannehill, Wilson and Luck) are guys who've come out in the last few years. But if you look at guys below Andy, it's all the guys who have been picked from 2011 on.It doesn't get any better this year. After Winston and Mariota, who both have their own warts, there's no one. Looking back the 00s were really a golden age for quarterbacks. These days the well is dry. Quote
cincyhokie Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Posted January 1, 2015 I wonder if it's a combination of colleges running spread schemes that limit the development of college QBs...and the NFL becoming so QB centric. It's almost as if the college and NFL landscapes are moving farther and farther apart. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 It could be. That's the big knock on Mariota, that he plays in a very college system and will need time...and like you say NFL QBs rarely get that anymore.My guess is that what you will see going forward is a revival at the RB position. Its already starting in some places like Cincy, Indy, Dallas, even GB where IMHO Lacy is criminally underrated. I don't think its a coincidence that Kapernick went to pot right when they seemed to dial back Gore, either. Quote
cincyhokie Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Posted January 1, 2015 It could be. That's the big knock on Mariota, that he plays in a very college system and will need time...and like you say NFL QBs rarely get that anymore.My guess is that what you will see going forward is a revival at the RB position. Its already starting in some places like Cincy, Indy, Dallas, even GB where IMHO Lacy is criminally underrated. I don't think its a coincidence that Kapernick went to pot right when they seemed to dial back Gore, either.Good points.I'd really like to see Dalton with Eifert, Jones and Hill. I'd also like to see what a change from Zampese could do for him. Quote
gregcook68 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 One other thing Andy has going for him is durability. Having a good QB means nothing if he isn't playing. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Speaking of college QBs, Bryce Petty (Baylor) is tearing it up today. Quote
volcom69 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Speaking of college QBs, Bryce Petty (Baylor) is tearing it up today.Yea he is, very accurate on those deep passes. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Weird thing is that's been the knock on Petty, that his accuracy sucks, but he's Jeebus today, just hit another long TD to start the second half. Quote
gregcook68 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Weird thing is that's been the knock on Petty, that his accuracy sucks, but he's Jeebus today, just hit another long TD to start the second half.Have you ever seen any Dalton film of him at TCU? He looks really good and in total control. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 There's in control and theres on fire. After the game when Petty takes a dump he should check befor flushing because he might just have crapped a gold nugget. Just one of those days. Quote
volcom69 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Wow what a finish to this game wow Quote
gregcook68 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Posted January 1, 2015 Sidebar: What's up with college teams having some offensive and defensive players with the number? I'm seeing more and more of that. Quote
redsbengalsbucks Posted January 2, 2015 Report Posted January 2, 2015 Sidebar: What's up with college teams having some offensive and defensive players with the number? I'm seeing more and more of that.Not enough numbers to cover the amount of players that are on the team, would be my guess. Quote
cincyhokie Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Posted January 12, 2015 Broncos fans are FREAKING out right now. Not only because of the loss in the playoffs again but because Manning is probably done.Yet, their fans are clamoring for a rebuild. Simply get "another" QB. Who? This is just the beginning of a major shift in the change over with the QBs. Next will be Brees, then Brady. Not too far after will be Ben and Eli Manning. I fully agree that Dalton is limited and can only be asked to do so much. But I'm really curious to see what happens in the next few years with him as he is elevated into possibly the top 10 best Qs. Not by talent but by attrition. Really curious. Quote
volcom69 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 It also depends on these QBs coming out in the draft in the next few years. Is there anybody really that great coming out? I have not seen an Andrew Luck type QB. Quote
cincyhokie Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Posted January 12, 2015 I haven't heard of great prospects coming out in the next 1-2 years. I really think that this will be the norm for some time. College style offense simply does not translate. Like Hoosier said, you're going to see an added emphasis on the run game. Quote
jjakq27 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 So how many first game loses is that for Manning? Nine? Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 Yup, ninth one-and-done. Even Andy has a ways to go to break that record.If it wasn't for 2006, P. Manning would probably go down as the most disappointing QB in NFL history. And even that ring isn't much of a defense. The Colts won more in spite of Peyton (3 TDs, 7 INTs in four games, including the Super Bowl) than because of him. Quote
redsbengalsbucks Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 Yup, ninth one-and-done. Even Andy has a ways to go to break that record.If it wasn't for 2006, P. Manning would probably go down as the most disappointing QB in NFL history. And even that ring isn't much of a defense. The Colts won more in spite of Peyton (3 TDs, 7 INTs in four games, including the Super Bowl) than because of him.And I would still have loved to have him play for a team I was rooted for, because he gets you to the post-season consistently. That is the only way your team can win a SB in spite of the QB. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 Yup, ninth one-and-done. Even Andy has a ways to go to break that record.If it wasn't for 2006, P. Manning would probably go down as the most disappointing QB in NFL history. And even that ring isn't much of a defense. The Colts won more in spite of Peyton (3 TDs, 7 INTs in four games, including the Super Bowl) than because of him.And I would still have loved to have him play for a team I was rooted for, because he gets you to the post-season consistently. That is the only way your team can win a SB in spite of the QB.Agreed. All I would add is that we sort of have that guy now. And no, I'm not trying to say Manning= Dalton or anything like that. But just getting to the postseason consistently isn't something to be tossed aside lightly. Quote
cincyhokie Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Posted January 12, 2015 Yup, ninth one-and-done. Even Andy has a ways to go to break that record.If it wasn't for 2006, P. Manning would probably go down as the most disappointing QB in NFL history. And even that ring isn't much of a defense. The Colts won more in spite of Peyton (3 TDs, 7 INTs in four games, including the Super Bowl) than because of him.And I would still have loved to have him play for a team I was rooted for, because he gets you to the post-season consistently. That is the only way your team can win a SB in spite of the QB.Agreed. All I would add is that we sort of have that guy now. And no, I'm not trying to say Manning= Dalton or anything like that. But just getting to the postseason consistently isn't something to be tossed aside lightly.I'm more concerned with the coaching staffs ability to get the team to advance in the playoffs than I am Dalton. From what we've seen so far, I have no reason to believe that Lewis can match up with the other coaches come playoff time. Quote
kingwilly Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 Watching that Denver-Indy game, there was something weird about Denver's playcalling. It was like all of the sudden, they had the spirit of Al Davis take over the offense. Vertical throws, again and again. just baffling. It was really odd and out of the blue.Deep throw, seep throw, deep throw.... anyone else scratch their head, too? Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 I didn't see much of the game, but it makes even less sense now that word has broken that Manning was playing with a torn quad. Quote
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