UK Bengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 It's been said over at NFL.com that paying big and rushing out in FA doesn't get you results. I have to agree look at the dream team last year did fk all and most likely bills won't do s**t or the bucs and the skins.When we picked up laws on and Howard last season no one envisioned a top ten D the Bengals play it smart it may look like being cheap but if a player goes to a team that didn't make the playoffs and hasn't had a sniff of them in ages aka bucs he goes for the money aka Vincent pay me Jackson.IMO the bengals are playing it smart like quit a few other teams. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 I think when you have the ability to add even one player that can come in and start, allowing you to free up your draft, it should be given the utmost of consideration. That being said, even though I wanted some of the big names, I gave up on that rather quickly. There are still guys out there capable of helping the team, but I guess we will continue to wait and see.You have teams that were said to be up against the cap and would need to make cuts, like the Saints, and they franchised Brees, restructured players deals, resigned Colston, and are now looking to lock up Grubbs as Nicks replacement. All in all a pretty nice haul for a team up against the cap.Maybe we will be viewed as making that kind of haul assuming Dalton, Green, Gresham, Atkins, and Dunlap continue to excell at their positions. Quote
UK Bengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Nicks is still available and Tampa are running way short on funds to offer him what he's demanding and there don't appear to be any more suitors so he might be got for less which is what the bengals may be waiting for Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 If Nicks takes less money, I see him going back to New Orleans, unless they close the deal on Grubbs.Anyway around, Nicks is looking to be the highest paid Guard in the league and I can't see the Bengals being that team.I would love it if they did, but it's not happening. Quote
derekshank Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Meachem and Garcon's contracts are ridiculous. And Vincent Jackson for $11+ million/year? A guy who has never caught 70 passes in a year and has documented attitude problems... now paid more than Calvin Johnson?This is the reason that the best teams in the NFL wait out the first wave of free agency. These are bad contracts. Quote
Scottishbengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Aye - and I can see the Bengals waiting so long that their own FA's walk leaving even more gaps to fill via the draft!!I must confess to be extremely disappointed and massively pissed off we never even tried to tickle a big trout Quote
volcom69 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 That's what I don't understand what happened to signing there own FA they are letting them walk to test the market that's what's strange. I thought that was there big thing to sign there own guys. Quote
HoosierCat Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Nicks a Buccaneer @ $9.5 mil a year./>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/buccaneers-reel-on-carl-nicks-for-five-years-47-5-million/ Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Meachem and Garcon's contracts are ridiculous. And Vincent Jackson for $11+ million/year? A guy who has never caught 70 passes in a year and has documented attitude problems... now paid more than Calvin Johnson?This is the reason that the best teams in the NFL wait out the first wave of free agency. These are bad contracts.Those numbers are absolutely ridiculous and agree with you Derek.Makes me mad to a degree, but then again, not so much... Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Nicks a Buccaneer @ $9.5 mil a year./>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/buccaneers-reel-on-carl-nicks-for-five-years-47-5-million/And there you go, the highest paid Guard in the league and he's not a Bengal.Next bit of news will be the Saints signing Grubbs. Quote
combatbengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Hey guys, here is the link to the FA tracker; http://www.nfl.com/freeagency?module=HP11_cp Quote
UK Bengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Lol bucs trying to emulate the eagles for this year throwing silly money at players.Waiting for the implosion that is sure to happen. Quote
UK Bengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Well we have lost fenarne to the pats and frostie to the browns lol Quote
combatbengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Man when are we going to get off our you know what and do something in FA? Who makes these decisions for us? I hope we don’t end up waiting and then try to sign a L Cole type of player again! Tampa Bay is kicking butt in FA. So are the Redskins!! Quote
combatbengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Michael Bush and Aaron Ross are scheduled to visit us! Can we not screw this up? Yup we lost Fanena! Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Could care less about the Bucs or Redskins as they are giving sh*t away and will certainly put themselves in a hole.Always trying to win NOW with little to show for it.Now, I wish we would try a little harder for sure... Quote
combatbengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Maybe so but they're active in FA!!! What have we done so far? Oh yea we lost two DE's! Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Maybe so but they're active in FA!!! What have we done so far? Oh yea we lost two DE's!The Redskins have been one of the most, if not THE, most active team in free agency for many many years and have made big splash after big splash and yet are consistently a poor team. I can't explain how it really works, but something tells me it simply doesn't. Yet some of the most consistently successful teams rarely make many moves in FA at all.Yeah, i'm pissed they can't keep their own and I think they were needed for depth, but i'm also not delusional about how either of them were starters in this league. They were depth and can be replaced. What I don't like is the position certainly moved up in priority for the draft and it was already on the radar. Quote
volcom69 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 That's what bothers me army I want expecting big things but they said they were keeping there own guys that's what FA is all about to them and they can't even do that so far Quote
Scottishbengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Maybe so but they're active in FA!!! What have we done so far? Oh yea we lost two DE's! What I don't like is the position certainly moved up in priority for the draft and it was already on the radar.DE's, CB, S, RB, WR, G/O-line, LB's .......... how many starters for game #1 are we gonna take in the draft ....one, two, three even? and what do we need in reality, eight, nine, ten upgrades?? Now I don't confess to being a mathematical genius but in my book we are taking one step forward and three steps back! Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Don't get me wrong, i'm not happy about it and have given my reasons as to why.My biggest issue is how it affects the draft. They were already talking about the need to draft a DT within the first four rounds and now they have lost two DE's that have both moved to DT at times. Pat Sims still hasn't signed back up and if they lose him, there's simply no way for them to replace that kind of depth.I think they really need to get Michael Bush signed and if that happens, I bet they totally pass on RB altogether in the draft due to the needs created by this loss. People want to say how they don't want to hear about how much money we have, well I don't want to hear about a contract 3 years away that may never come to be.It's not an endorsement to be frivilous in FA, just take care of your own and do what you can to help free up the draft.I think these losses hurt them in their draft strategies. THAT irritates me further... Quote
bwillycuse Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 I can almost hear all those Bengal fans putting money they were thinking of spending on season tickets back in their pockets. IM still holding out hope. But this has to look bad to Green and Atkins, etc. Please show us you have a plan bengals. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 Maybe so but they're active in FA!!! What have we done so far? Oh yea we lost two DE's! What I don't like is the position certainly moved up in priority for the draft and it was already on the radar.DE's, CB, S, RB, WR, G/O-line, LB's .......... how many starters for game #1 are we gonna take in the draft ....one, two, three even? and what do we need in reality, eight, nine, ten upgrades?? Now I don't confess to being a mathematical genius but in my book we are taking one step forward and three steps back!Well, what we lost in Rucker and Fanene was depth, not starters, so that will wait a little.We need starters out of our first two picks without a doubt and I still think that's Guard and CB.They weren't able to address the #2 WR and as much as some may disagree, that could be our 2nd rounder.Saftey in the 3rd and then start addressing the D-line hard and heavy from there.It's certainly debateable but this is also assuming we land Bush at RB. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Posted March 14, 2012 I can almost hear all those Bengal fans putting money they were thinking of spending on season tickets back in their pockets. IM still holding out hope. But this has to look bad to Green and Atkins, etc. Please show us you have a plan bengals.I've been saying if they don't do something to bring the fans back, they will have to be thinking of new ways to give tickets away in 2012.Taking care of their own would have at least been a start. It's not like the fans don't know they have money to spend. Quote
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