5th Round: Otis Hudson

[ArmyBengal]

Army weren't you saying we probably wouldn't even take a Guard if we didn't do it early?

Exactly and my problem with the pick. It does NOTHING for our o-line situation this season and with him being a project, he probably won't be able to step in next year either when (as already brought up) Livings and Mathis (BLAH) are both free agents (YEAH) and Bobbie is another year older.

There were other players available AND STILL ARE that are better than Hudson in the 5th round.

Players that would have had the opportunity to make an impact on this team MUCH sooner.

[skyline]

Army weren't you saying we probably wouldn't even take a Guard if we didn't do it early?

There were other players available AND STILL ARE that are better than Hudson in the 5th round.

Players that would have had the opportunity to make an impact on this team MUCH sooner.

Apparently our coaches are more concerned with long term success.

Of course it remains to be seen whether or not Hudson will pan out, but I'm fine with taking the chance.

[Kazkal]

Army weren't you saying we probably wouldn't even take a Guard if we didn't do it early?

Exactly and my problem with the pick. It does NOTHING for our o-line situation this season and with him being a project, he probably won't be able to step in next year either when (as already brought up) Livings and Mathis (BLAH) are both free agents (YEAH) and Bobbie is another year older.

There were other players available AND STILL ARE that are better than Hudson in the 5th round.

Players that would have had the opportunity to make an impact on this team MUCH sooner.

Well Bobbie has 2 year contract so 2 years to develop...as for Livings & Mathis I'd be 100% okay with them resigning Mathis 3-4 years.

Mathis 0 Sacks 5 hits 3 pressures out of 648 Plays....He was also on more passing downs where livings would mainly be in on running when both were healthy 2nd half of season.

PS,the messed up thing is Livings was used more on running downs yet the Oline was much more effective running ball with Mathis in.

[ArmyBengal]

Hard to see how they can be concerned with long term success when they take a project that will take time to develop at a position that has their rotational starters as free agents next year and the other starter being older that many were saying they didn't want to come back.

This smacks of how after a team takes a pick, the fans simply find a way to justify the pick.

[derekshank]

Hard to see how they can be concerned with long term success when they take a project that will take time to develop at a position that has their rotational starters as free agents next year and the other starter being older that many were saying they didn't want to come back.

This smacks of how after a team takes a pick, the fans simply find a way to justify the pick.

You don't like the pick? Fine. I don't know much about the guy, so I don't have a strong opinion.

That said, it's the 5th round, so the strategy changes a bit from the 1st round. It's the point in the draft where you can start looking at potential and ceiling rather than simply how BPA is defined in earlier rounds.

The Stacy Andrews pick was a project, and while it might not have been a huge success, he did give the Bengals adequate O-Line depth for several seasons, started at RT for one season, and when he left, he netted them a 3rd round comp pick.

Were you really expecting to get an O-Lineman in the 5th round that would come in and start immediately? If you get a guy that will be able to start eventually, I think it's a success story.

[ArmyBengal]

NO, I didn't want a o-lineman in the 5th at all, that's my point.

[membengal]

No, it smacks of me having to yield to the fact that they know a f**kload more about this guy than I do.

[ArmyBengal]

No, it smacks of me having to yield to the fact that they know a f**kload more about this guy than I do.

I don't doubt that one bit Mem and can agree.

If Hudson turns out to be solid depth, great.

I just don't like it.

Nothing more to it.

[derekshank]

NO, I didn't want a o-lineman in the 5th at all, that's my point.

What did you want... just out of curiosity?

O-Line was something I was looking for today... and while I don't know who this guy is, I'm glad they addressed it with a guy who is at the very least physically gifted.

I assume you were hoping for Myron Rolle or something along those lines? Well, a guy like that has a low ceiling, and I'm not convinced there is anything at the safety position left that offers any type of depth that the Bengals don't already have.

[BengalPimp]

MotherF*ckers......That's what they are....Marshall Newhouse was still available (Green Bay ended up taking him after us)....Damn you Otis....Damn You!!!!

[ArmyBengal]

Blount and all of his issues would provide more of an impact to this team and if Benson doesn't come back gives us a bell cow we don't currently have on this roster.

It looks like he will still be there in the 6th, but I simply view him as a better option.

I've got nothing else on this though...

[Kazkal]

This smacks of how after a team takes a pick, the fans simply find a way to justify the pick.

it's 5th rounder your it's doubtful you'll find a Day 1 starter EVEN if we took Mike Johnson in the 3rd would I'd still see him as a developmental guy who would have sat behind Bobbie for a year or two...So I don't see how it's any different then Otis a 5th rounder.

[ArmyBengal]

Cool, I'm done...

"F-"

[Kazkal]

I have a feeling army will love the 6th rounder I can just feeeeeeeeeeeeel it.

[membengal]

A++

[ShulaSteakhouse]

The Bengals' have very average interior lineman, none of them will ever make a Pro Bowl (even Bobbie hasn't sniffed one from what I recall) despite a PB caliber WR, QB and RB making them look good.

They had to take a C/G at some point, who has some potential. I'll pray Otis might be an upgrade to any one of the low-ceiling, mundane fodder the Bengals' currently have at C/G.

[HoosierCat]

Man, you people need a refresher course on teh google. Plenty out there about this guy. Very, very solid prospect; conventional wisdom is he projects inside at the next level.

Blog talk radio interview here:

/>https://www.blogtalkradio.com/collegefootballinsiders/2010/02/24/player-spotlight-show-otis-hudson-eastern-illinois

Teaser copy:

Offensive lineman Otis Hudson transfer from Minnesota finished is college career with the Eastern Illinois Panthers anchoring the offensive line. Hudson played tackles but might project to guard at the next level. Working out at Performance Gaines with renowned trainer Travelle Gaines, Otis talks about getting ready for the leap towards the NFL. Join host Bo Marchionte on the show bringing you up close with more college players than anyone else on the market the NFL Draft

EI Panthers:

/>http://www.eiupanthers.com/news/2010/4/24/FB_0424101720.aspx?path=football

Hudson is a 6-5, 321 lb., right tackle was a two-year starter for the Panthers after beginning his career at the University of Minnesota. Hudson graded out at 82 percent as a junior right tackle with 15 decleater blocks. As a senior he again graded out at 82 percent with 22 decleater blocks as he played the second highest number of snaps on the offensive line. Hudson played high school football at Barrington (Ill.) High School.

CBS Sports:

Positives: Tall, athletic tackle who has the lateral movement and strength to be a good developmental prospects on the right side. Able to move FCS DEs easily with raw upper-body strength. Is mobile enough to get downfield and to the linebackers at the second level.

Negatives: Small school competition didn't prepare him for the pros. Raw talent. Needs better knee bend and leverage against NFL strong-side defensive ends. Catches rushers instead of bending at the waist, punching and dominating. Needs to toughen up a bit before being a regular contributor. Not a great weight-room guy.

[ArmyBengal]

Thanks Hoosier...

"D"

[Kazkal]

The Bengals' have very average interior lineman, none of them will ever make a Pro Bowl (even Bobbie hasn't sniffed one from what I recall) despite a PB caliber WR, QB and RB making them look good.

They had to take a C/G at some point, who has some potential. I'll pray Otis might be an upgrade to any one of the low-ceiling, mundane fodder the Bengals' currently have at C/G.

pretty sure Bobbie was Probowl 1st alt this year. or 2nd

[derekshank]

Just read this story, and even if you hated the pick, you have to like the kid.

[BlainThePain]

Just read this story, and even if you hated the pick, you have to like the kid.

Everything I have been reading about him has me liking the pick more and more. There was probably a little too much negative reaction to the pick because nobody knew who he was, but look at what we keep finding out about him. He's big, can move well, is extremely coachable, has a great work ethic, and has been described as a high character guy. There has also been a knee jerk reaction that this guy is automatically going to be cut and put on the practice squad, but the more I read, the more I think he has a really good chance of making the active roster. There are going to be some really tough roster cuts this year.

[kingwilly]

Just read this story, and even if you hated the pick, you have to like the kid.

Nice story. It seems for every one of thee guys the team finds, they find another 2-3 who are like Pac-Man.

I think this comes down to what this team needs. Did they need another interior O-lineman? To me, no, they did not. Is it a nice, safe pick with good upside? Yes.

Did they ignore several other players who could provide more immediate impact at positions that do not currently have the depth the O-line has? Yes.

Perhaps in a couple of years, he will be anchoring the right side with Big Andre?

[redsbengalsbucks]

Just read this story, and even if you hated the pick, you have to like the kid.

Nice story. It seems for every one of thee guys the team finds, they find another 2-3 who are like Pac-Man.

I think this comes down to what this team needs. Did they need another interior O-lineman? To me, no, they did not. Is it a nice, safe pick with good upside? Yes.

Did they ignore several other players who could provide more immediate impact at positions that do not currently have the depth the O-line has? Yes.

Perhaps in a couple of years, he will be anchoring the right side with Big Andre?

On the O-line, Whit and Andre are bookends for years, but OG is up in the air: will Mathis get better or level off, can Livings live up to his college play, how long will Bobbie's body hold up?

OG was one of my top three needs going into the draft.

[Kazkal]

On the O-line, Whit and Andre are bookends for years, but OG is up in the air: will Mathis get better or level off, can Livings live up to his college play, how long will Bobbie's body hold up?

OG was one of my top three needs going into the draft.

Even if Mathis didn't improve IMO his play was very acceptable,Livings on the other hand you could tell there was a drop off in play.

[BlainThePain]

On the O-line, Whit and Andre are bookends for years, but OG is up in the air: will Mathis get better or level off, can Livings live up to his college play, how long will Bobbie's body hold up?

OG was one of my top three needs going into the draft.

Even if Mathis didn't improve IMO his play was very acceptable,Livings on the other hand you could tell there was a drop off in play.

I agree. I really didn't understand why they rotated the left guard position. It seemed, that while Livings is decent, Mathis was clearly superior.