1st Round Pre-Pick Thread

[HairOnFire]

It's time to go offense in round #1. Preferably a WR.

I'll ask you the same question I keep asking Hoosier. Why ignore the best defensive class in decades in favor of a 1st round wideout when both starting WR roles are filled?

[Kazkal]

It's time to go offense in round #1. Preferably a WR.

I'll ask you the same question I keep asking Hoosier. Why ignore the best defensive class in decades in favor of a 1st round wideout when both starting WR roles are filled?

Because you can't draft WR's and Tight Ends in other rounds besides one?

[BengalPimp]

Start watching the video below around 2:30:

I have seen TCU play a few times, and that's why I've been pimpin' G Marshall Newhouse for the 3rd or 4th Rd. I have not been impressed enough with Hughes to consider him in the 1st Rd. Look at the hit he put on Max Hall at about 3:00. He hit him standing straight up, no form, and didn't try to wrap up.....Imagine if he tried to do that to a big QB like Roethlisberger? He would just get shrugged off. That may work on a 6' 0 1/2" 201 lb QB like Max Hall, but not in the NFL.

Good Player, but not for the Bengals, and not in the 1st RD.

[HoosierCat]

It's time to go offense in round #1. Preferably a WR.

I'll ask you the same question I keep asking Hoosier. Why ignore the best defensive class in decades in favor of a 1st round wideout when both starting WR roles are filled?

Because you can't draft WR's and Tight Ends in other rounds besides one?

Yeah, the Bengals have just been throwing 1st round picks at those positions, right?

If it really is a great defensive class, then why not wait?

The Bengals have two highly-paid starting DEs, and two third-round picks behind them, but there's no shortage of calls for another.

The Bengals have averaged one top-three-rounds pick per year on LB under Marvin, and now Sergio Kindle fans want to make it 8 in 8 years...with no complaints.

A strong safety in Taylor Mays? Really...that's the difference between a top 10 D and, what, a top 5 or top 3 D?

Yet call for a wideout and it's OMFG NO! We took Jerome Simpson 2 years ago (news flash: he sucks). Buh...buh...buh...we signed Matt Jones and Antonio Bryant! Starters, starters! Yeah, and if we want to talk about the Bengals' success in the draft finding WRs, how about their success finding FA wideouts? Coles and Chatman didn't precisely rack up the stats, did they?

[James_Brooks21]

I don't see Taylor Mays being that much of an upgrade over Ndukwe that it would garner taking him in the first round, Mays would be better in the box then Ndukwe but neither one of them can cover or make plays on the ball. If we can't draft Earl Thomas or Eric Berry in the first round then don't reach for another safety. Yes Mays has great straight line speed but we need someone that can cover and make plays ala Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu,if we were running a track team I would be all for Mays but that's too high to draft a person who can't cover or make plays on the ball. Pierre Paul I don't think so, I live in Tampa and has seen the dude play he was decent but that was because teams were worried about George Selvie on the other side. I'm not big on taking defensive ends in the first round, the number that have been bust compared to the one's that are doing something are not close. Pierre Paul is green as hell when it comes down to playing big time football, only basically one season. His athletic ability is what's carrying him up the boards, just too much of a risk for me. The pick should be Gresham, our offense would stall again at midseason without another weapon. Yeah I know we got Bryant but we need a big time weapon at that TE spot too, all the good teams have one.

[BengalszoneBilly]

It's time to go offense in round #1. Preferably a WR.

I'll ask you the same question I keep asking Hoosier. Why ignore the best defensive class in decades in favor of a 1st round wideout when both starting WR roles are filled?

Sure they're filled, but little depth remains behind them.

[Kazkal]

Yeah, the Bengals have just been throwing 1st round picks at those positions, right?

I know we go Defensive Heavy in the 1st round but hell atleast our Defensive Players seem to pan out alittle better then our Offense...

If it really is a great defensive class, then why not wait?

Because of BPA I wouldn't mind Gresham over Mays and Kindle but someone like Demaryius Thomas or Tate would bother me because it would feel like were Reaching.

The Bengals have two highly-paid starting DEs, and two third-round picks behind them, but there's no shortage of calls for another.

They also have two highly paid Wide Receivers and a 2nd & 4th round invested in to the future...Plus if you read most of the players I have suggested when it comes to helping our passrush

It's either been a Linebacker who could put his hand down on 3rd down (Ala Kindle) or a Defensive End to move OLB (Bespid a day 3 prospect)...You don't see our WR's having a Impact well I don't see our Defensive Ends impacting our passrush besides maybe MJ....Geathers is overpaid and has done crap in the way of passrush for past 3 years Odom,Fanene & Rucker are Hard workers who get most of their sacks off good coverage...I think the only time I really thought about a pure Defensive End was on the JPP thread and my mind set is if Zimmer & marvin feel so and so player can help us that I'll support that player even if it's a DT & CB 2 positions I feel strongly against in rnd 1.

The Bengals have averaged one top-three-rounds pick per year on LB under Marvin, and now Sergio Kindle fans want to make it 8 in 8 years...with no complaints.

I was Strongly against Linebacker early in the process and the only reason I've warmed up to it is idea is that we could find one who could put his hand down and help our Passrush....Player I've pimped most to do so is Kevin Basped a 5th-7th round Prospect

A strong safety in Taylor Mays? Really...that's the difference between a top 10 D and, what, a top 5 or top 3 D?

Well I look at it as when we were towards the End of last year and our Defense was banged up and didn't look like a top 10 unit...I admit part of my luv fest for Mays is simply from wanting him Previous years but It's not like I'm going to punch a hole in my TV if I hear Greshams name called instead of his...I may have done it in the past lol but not now.

Yet call for a wideout and it's OMFG NO! We took Jerome Simpson 2 years ago (news flash: he sucks). Buh...buh...buh...we signed Matt Jones and Antonio Bryant! Starters, starters! Yeah, and if we want to talk about the Bengals' success in the draft finding WRs, how about their success finding FA wideouts? Coles and Chatman didn't precisely rack up the stats, did they?

I personally don't mind if a Wide Out is taken I just feel Byrant is the only one worth the selection,That D.Thomas and G.Tate are reaching and I feel as comfortable with Lefall,Benn,Gilyyard or Decker in 2nd/3rd round.

PS,All in all I just like Idea of a Mays-Gronkowski-Gilyard draft more then I like a G.Tate-Chad Jones-Dennis Pita draft....Though if it was a Dez,Mccoy,Rashad Jones draft I'd like it as much as I like my mays draft

[HoosierCat]

I know we go Defensive Heavy in the 1st round but hell atleast our Defensive Players seem to pan out alittle better then our Offense...

Well, we seem to have a knack for drafting corners in the Marvin era. Beyond that..meh.

Because of BPA I wouldn't mind Gresham over Mays and Kindle but someone like Demaryius Thomas or Tate would bother me because it would feel like were Reaching.

I don't want a WR not named Bryant in the first, either. I'm afraid, however, were going to get that, and they'll pass up Gresham to do it.

I think the only time I really thought about a pure Defensive End was on the JPP thread

I have a very bad feeling about JPP...

PS,All in all I just like Idea of a Mays-Gronkowski-Gilyard draft more then I like a G.Tate-Chad Jones-Dennis Pita draft.

Mays in the first wouldn't bother me. But I would go with WR in the second; I don't trust Gronkowski's back. Do not want Golden Tate.

[ArmyBengal]

Ok, this may change tomorrow, but it's where I'm at with who I actually see being there.

TE- Gresham

SLB- Kindle

WR- D. Thomas

S- Mays

I think it will be one of those and if I were choosing one for the offense and one for the defense, I would say Gresham or Kindle should be the pick.

I think Kindle would enable the defense do move things around with possibly seeing Rey make the move to his natural position in the middle, while adding a player with pass rush capabilities that I think would start over Jeanty on the outside. Gresham would certainly be one of the two best TE's that would also get some starting time. I just think if you are wanting to get the player to make the most impact in a starting capacity in the first round, it has to be one of those two.

EDIT: I would like to add while an o-lineman wouldn't be the sexy pick, I also wouldn't complain.

[Kazkal]

I don't want a WR not named Bryant in the first, either. I'm afraid, however, were going to get that, and they'll pass up Gresham to do it.

a Common thought Though I hope yer wrong about a WR not named Byrant being called >_<

I have a very bad feeling about JPP...

I'm not a fan of taking JPP but would support Zim & Marv if that was the guy they wanted,Well he gets compared to gholsten alot I don't think its fair Vernon didn't play with heart JPP is just lacking experiance...IMO should be a 3rd rounder

Mays in the first wouldn't bother me. But I would go with WR in the second; I don't trust Gronkowski's back. Do not want Golden Tate.

WR in 2nd / TE 3rd would work for me to I like Gronkowski but if theres any concern on his back Pass him but if it was just BS rumors then the guy could be a stud.

[GoBengals!]

If the Bengals get either Dez Byrant or JPP (DE) I will be jumoing for joy. I think both these guys would be a steal at 21.

[PhunkE1]

I don't see Taylor Mays being that much of an upgrade over Ndukwe that it would garner taking him in the first round, Mays would be better in the box then Ndukwe but neither one of them can cover or make plays on the ball. If we can't draft Earl Thomas or Eric Berry in the first round then don't reach for another safety. Yes Mays has great straight line speed but we need someone that can cover and make plays ala Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu,if we were running a track team I would be all for Mays but that's too high to draft a person who can't cover or make plays on the ball.

I feel the same way about Mays. If we don't take him at 21 he slips into the 2nd round. The two players I covet most are Dez Bryant and Earl Thomas. I don't see either player being available with our pick. I'm starting to warm up to Gresham, since it's such a need, but I've always been against 1st round TE's. I'm actually starting to hope that Iupati or Pouncey slips to us. I don't know if Mikey could pull the triger on a 1st round interior O-lineman though.

[alleycat]

This reminds me of that great draft where the 49ers got Dwight Clark and all of those guys who formed their Superbowl teams. The saw a draft that was very deep, but not a huge difference between the bottom of the first and lower down. And so they repeatedly traded back and then stocked up on players in the following rounds and made history. I know, easier said than done, but I'm starting to warm to this idea more than any other if we only have ho-hum picks available at 21.

[ArmyBengal]

WHOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO !!! IT'S DRAFT DAY BABY !!!

[Kazkal]

WHOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO !!! IT'S DRAFT DAY BABY !!!

"looks at clock" 4am o_O I haven't slept yet I figure this way it's less time I gotta wait right before the draft since I'll sleep in until noon

[ArmyBengal]

Got up early this morning and got my run in ahead of time. Now I can make a quick trip to the gym after work and be home in plenty of time to get my computer back up since it took a sh*t again last night. I'll tell you what though, I'm missing this being on Saturday morning, because there would already be a cooler full of ice cold beverages and meat marinating just waiting to be thrown on the grill. It would be a full day of BBQ and beers only to get up the next morning and do it again.

D*mn workday bullsh*t !!!

[cincyhokie]

Got up early this morning and got my run in ahead of time. Now I can make a quick trip to the gym after work and be home in plenty of time to get my computer back up since it took a sh*t again last night. I'll tell you what though, I'm missing this being on Saturday morning, because there would already be a cooler full of ice cold beverages and meat marinating just waiting to be thrown on the grill. It would be a full day of BBQ and beers only to get up the next morning and do it again.

D*mn workday bullsh*t !!!

Look on the bright side. We have all Friday night and Saturday starting at 10am. Sunday can be used as recovery time. I will watch all 7 rounds, no doubt. It would be better if it didn't start on a Thursday, though. Fri-Sun would be a better option for many.

[ArmyBengal]

Got up early this morning and got my run in ahead of time. Now I can make a quick trip to the gym after work and be home in plenty of time to get my computer back up since it took a sh*t again last night. I'll tell you what though, I'm missing this being on Saturday morning, because there would already be a cooler full of ice cold beverages and meat marinating just waiting to be thrown on the grill. It would be a full day of BBQ and beers only to get up the next morning and do it again.

D*mn workday bullsh*t !!!

Look on the bright side. We have all Friday night and Saturday starting at 10am. Sunday can be used as recovery time. I will watch all 7 rounds, no doubt. It would be better if it didn't start on a Thursday, though. Fri-Sun would be a better option for many.

Yep yep...

[princeton]

And i think that when the 22nd pick is up, both Taylor Mays and Jermain Gresham will still be on the board, because with the 21st selection in the 2010 NFL draft, the Bengals take Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech.

I hope that it's Thomas, because I think that he'd do well in Cincy. But I'm expecting Mike Brown to go for high talent/high bust potential: Anthony Davis.

[ArmyBengal]

Actually OT, is one of the positions (if taken) that would irritate me in the first round. Davis doesn't project to the interior of the o-line and we have Dre Smith and Whit at either OT spot. Say what you want, but there's no way in hell those two aren't the starters, so Davis would be the ultimate wasted pick in the first. Just my thoughts...

[walzav29]

OK. I've done a mock draft, and I have Cincinnati taking Arrelious Benn WR Illinois.

I heard him on an interview yesterday and he came off great. Which means he's a high character guy. Which I think draft wise the Bengals have made a conscience effort to pick.

[ArmyBengal]

No to Benn in the 1st. Would rather have D. Thomas...

[princeton]

OK. I've done a mock draft, and I have Cincinnati taking Arrelious Benn WR Illinois.

I heard him on an interview yesterday and he came off great. Which means he's a high character guy. Which I think draft wise the Bengals have made a conscience effort to pick.

Mikey took two low character guys 1-2 just last year. Brown will always take talent over character. Dez Bryant won't shock me in the least.

me, I feel bad for Carson that nobody -- nobody-- gets separation, and want anyone that gets Stone-Fingers Coats, Slo-Mo Dhani, or I'm No Jumpy Geathers off the field. My preference: Gresham, by far.

[walzav29]

OK. I've done a mock draft, and I have Cincinnati taking Arrelious Benn WR Illinois.

I heard him on an interview yesterday and he came off great. Which means he's a high character guy. Which I think draft wise the Bengals have made a conscience effort to pick.

Mikey took two low character guys 1-2 just last year. Brown will always take talent over character. Dez Bryant won't shock me in the least.

me, I feel bad for Carson that nobody -- nobody-- gets separation, and want anyone that gets Stone-Fingers Coats, Slo-Mo Dhani, or I'm No Jumpy Geathers off the field. My preference: Gresham, by far.

Coming off an injry makes me too nervous. They can't risk a #21 on that.

[princeton]

OK. I've done a mock draft, and I have Cincinnati taking Arrelious Benn WR Illinois.

I heard him on an interview yesterday and he came off great. Which means he's a high character guy. Which I think draft wise the Bengals have made a conscience effort to pick.

Mikey took two low character guys 1-2 just last year. Brown will always take talent over character. Dez Bryant won't shock me in the least.

me, I feel bad for Carson that nobody -- nobody-- gets separation, and want anyone that gets Stone-Fingers Coats, Slo-Mo Dhani, or I'm No Jumpy Geathers off the field. My preference: Gresham, by far.

Coming off an injry makes me too nervous. They can't risk a #21 on that.

Pouncey's probably the least risky pick among players likely to be available to the Bengals. and, I think that he's a great fit. but I don't expect the Bengals to go that route. Brown seems to like risk.