ArmyBengal Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 A couple things to consider as well are, Seattle knows it will give up the #6 pick, but for them to be concerned about that doesn't exactly jive to me. The amount of money to be paid to the #6 pick this year will be a ton for any team to absorb and with the #14 pick in hand, I really don't think Seattle will be as upset as they may be making it out to be.That being said, I'm also not so sure the Broncos would want the #6 pick for the same reason I listed above. With that thought in mind, I could see from Denver's standpoint of liking the #21 pick as a better option due to the lesser amount of money coming out of pocket in contract terms and the value to be had later in the 1st round.The value in the late 1st is also a reason Mikey doesn't want to give up the pick.Without going back to see who said it, the amount of the contract isn't really the issue when considering dumping Coles and not having to pay a first round contract this season. Money just isn't as important this season without there being cap concerns to deal with. I agree with the thought of this possibly being the biggest FA move in their history and giving them the best chance at a serious Super Bowl run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Ok, dollar for dollar, the 21st pick may be less expensive than trading and signing Marshall but the VALUE is higher with Marshall.I just can't be convinced otherwise.I point to the last 5 21st picks.Alex Mack - CenterSam Baker - TackleReggie Nelson - SafetyLaurence Maroney - RBandMatt Jones - WR - the irony of that is not lost on me.For SoP to claim the 21st pick is more valuable than Marshall is silly.SoP may be looking at it like he is paying Top 10 money for a 21st pick but this is about directly addressing a huge weakness on the team with a proven producer. Kind of look at it like he can't afford NOT to do it, with the money spent on Carson and the lighting in the bottle with Cedric, the O-line and the Defense. Now is the time to go big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I was just watching NFL live and Wingo, Hodge, and Bruschi were all commenting about how the Bengals should go get Marshall. They all said they would give up the #21 for Marshall without giving it any thought. The reason why ?? Marshall is proven and you know what you are getting. They said he would bring back the deep threat that we had in Henry, but with the addition of a true #1 WR. They commented about a signing like this changing FA players opinions of the organization and they said all of this comes down to Mikey wanting to make the trade happen, but felt strongly that the Bengals should make this a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I was just watching NFL live and Wingo, Hodge, and Bruschi were all commenting about how the Bengals should go get Marshall. They all said they would give up the #21 for Marshall without giving it any thought. The reason why ?? Marshall is proven and you know what you are getting. They said he would bring back the deep threat that we had in Henry, but with the addition of a true #1 WR. They commented about a signing like this changing FA players opinions of the organization and they said all of this comes down to Mikey wanting to make the trade happen, but felt strongly that the Bengals should make this a priority.EXACTLYnow is the time. how often you gonna get a WR like Marshall for a #21 pick and sign him to a legit contract?DO IT!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 This cant happen..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGrizzlyBaer Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I just have my doubts that this will happen. I have had the rug pulled out from under me as a bengals fan to many times to get my hopes up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 No one had better get their hopes up. It's not Mikey's way to pay big bucks and lose your 1st rd draft pick. If this really happens then maybe he has turned a corner but I'm not one who thinks a leopard changes his spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 This cant happen.....what "can't" happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Good lord some of you need to take a breath. The idea of Marshall is nice, the price is steep. I would do it, myself, but I sure can't kill the Bengals for not doing it if they choose not to. It's not like the other NFL teams are beating down the door to get to Marshall either at this point. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridge Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 The people frothing at the mouth with love for Brandon Marshall really get me. They seem to be convinced that Marshall is worth 50 million dollars and a 1st round pick. I am not.Don't get me wrong,I think he is just the type of football player the Bengals need at WR. However, I have been following the Darrent Williams murder trial and it appears that Brandon Marshall's nighttime behaviour was almost Pacman-like. Except a guy got killed. Is Marshall a better person than he used to be? If so, I wouldn't squawk if the Bengals acquired him. But I'm not convinced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 A question for the Marshall-at-all-costs crowd, Collinsworth apparently said on McAllister's show last week that Marshall is one more legal hiccup from a one-year Pacman-style vacation from the league courtesy of the Commissioner. Where does that figure into your equation in terms of giving up a first round pick and kicking over around 20 - 30 million guaranteed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I have not read "all costs".regarding your insight that should Marshall go awry he goes on forced leave, I guess they would need to build that into his contract then, huh?Sure, it is a risk. The risk of him going awry is higher than, say, Tom Nelson, but the upside is very high and SoP has rolled the dice on these scenarios in the past.Risk not, want not.I want the Bengals to win a SB. If it were my team, I would risk bringing Marshall here to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Ray Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 A question for the Marshall-at-all-costs crowd, Collinsworth apparently said on McAllister's show last week that Marshall is one more legal hiccup from a one-year Pacman-style vacation from the league courtesy of the Commissioner. Where does that figure into your equation in terms of giving up a first round pick and kicking over around 20 - 30 million guaranteed?It looks like Antonio Bryant is the Bengals #1 target and I would say he is as risky as Marshall is. One more hiccup from him may land him a long suspension. Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh?Not one bit. Sign 'em all!Embrace the insanity...it's the only option!Chad + TO + Marshall + Bryant + Jones + guest star Jerome "Paddle Hands" Simpson = CLOWN SHOES FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Agree that it's not at all costs, simply the better scenario of all the option in that he actually represents what this offense needs. Sure we can save money and go the other route with T.O., but then ask yourself the question of where that leaves us heading into 2011 with the possibility of not having either Chad or T.O. and nothing proven left.Money isn't the issue here, as I've given every reason why this is well within their possibility. For all the people who say we can't, doesn't it smack of Mike Brown to be happier that he doesn't have to pay picks ?? Hell, i'd be surprised if they actually got to a point of offering compensation and don't TRY to give our 3rd rounder to save money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh?Not one bit. Sign 'em all!Embrace the insanity...it's the only option!Chad + TO + Marshall + Bryant + Jones + guest star Jerome "Paddle Hands" Simpson = CLOWN SHOES FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!! I think we broke Hoosier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh?Not one bit. Sign 'em all!Embrace the insanity...it's the only option!Chad + TO + Marshall + Bryant + Jones + guest star Jerome "Paddle Hands" Simpson = CLOWN SHOES FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!! I think we broke Hoosier. In Cincy, ya just gotta go with the flow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyhokie Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh?Not one bit. Sign 'em all!Embrace the insanity...it's the only option!Chad + TO + Marshall + Bryant + Jones + guest star Jerome "Paddle Hands" Simpson = CLOWN SHOES FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!! I think we broke Hoosier. In Cincy, ya just gotta go with the flow...I gotta agree with that. Remember the days when we were hoping they would just learn how to play football in the offseason? Now at least we are looking at ways they can get better than they already are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 How bout javon walker?.. Lol jk jk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Rebuttal to those now claiming they are not part of the at-all-costs crowd:The price for Marshall is the Bengals' #1 draft pick and a contract extention that will guarantee him somewhere around $20 - $30 million dollars. Again, GUARANTEED = large SIGNING BONUS that accounts for much of the guarantee. Even if suspended, he would already have received that. Bottom line. That's pretty effin' "at-all-costs", and if they do that, there is NO guarantee he sees the field next year if he has another off-field "oopsie". Again, chew on that for a second. And, I am sorry, but there is no comparison with Bryant on that score. Bryant has never been suspended (that I recall) and does not have the commish ban-hammer hanging over his head. And Bryant will not cost that much guaranteed money. Bryant is no Marshall talent-wise, but he is not the same risk either.Sorry, I love the idea of Marshall too, but it would be a major gamble for any team to take him on, pay him the coin, give up the pick, and hope he walks the straight and narrow. I canNOT kill the Bengals if they choose not to go that road. Not sure how any of you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 A question for the Marshall-at-all-costs crowd, Collinsworth apparently said on McAllister's show last week that Marshall is one more legal hiccup from a one-year Pacman-style vacation from the league courtesy of the Commissioner. Where does that figure into your equation in terms of giving up a first round pick and kicking over around 20 - 30 million guaranteed? Yup. I think most people are conveniently forgetting how Marshall's antics prompted the Broncos to offer him a long term contract last year that averaged a whopping 9.5 million per, but included almost no guaranteed money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh?Not one bit. Sign 'em all!Embrace the insanity...it's the only option! I think I like another option better. Sign none of them. Then, trade Chad. And go to war featuring the NFL's very first offensive scheme featuring five TE's....all of whom are actually OT's. The full retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Picking between those two and TO is quite a choice, huh?Not one bit. Sign 'em all!Embrace the insanity...it's the only option! I think I like another option better. Sign none of them. Then, trade Chad. And go to war featuring the NFL's very first offensive scheme featuring five TE's....all of whom are actually OT's. The full retard.I like it. Paul Brown and his schemes were way ahead of his time. It would be fitting to prove we aren't his "bastard sons" by building an offense like the ones before the implementation of the forward pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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