Bengals vs Jets After thoughts?

[dewaynesworld63]

I apologized several weeks ago for the other trolls that would inevitably pop up around here, and here they come. The perception around the league, and the country, last week seemed to be that the Jets were "lucky and unworthy" of a playoff spot. Now the Bengals, and their fans, clearly know that is not the case. Anyone who expects something close to a repeat of last night doesn't reallly understand football. The Bengals will regroup, lick their wounds, and come out of the tunnel angry on Saturday. But make no mistake, this is a dangerous Jet team that is hungry and they do not give up many points. As William Wallace once said, "Are you ready for a war!?!?!"

[cincy9275]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

[walzav29]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

Do you think this defense is better than some of the ones he had in Baltimore? I think they can play a hell of alot better than last night.

[dewaynesworld63]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

Do you think this defense is better than some of the ones he had in Baltimore? I think they can play a hell of alot better than last night.

You didn't ask me, but I believe I can answer objectiviely. The answer is "no." The Jets defense is the best in the league this year, and honestly, it might not even be that close. But they are not the former Ravens for a couple of reasons. They lack an elite pass rusher. They cause problems in the opposition's passing attack because of the blitzing and the coverage in the secondary. Calvin Pace is a very good player but not elite. The Jets also have two above average safeties but they do not have an Ed Reed back there. Second, elite defenses find a way to stop game winning drives. The Jets defense has surrendered 3 game winning TD drives this season. 2 of those games they had played very well while the offense struggled to stay on the field, but could not make the play to close it out.

[walzav29]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

Do you think this defense is better than some of the ones he had in Baltimore? I think they can play a hell of alot better than last night.

You didn't ask me, but I believe I can answer objectiviely. The answer is "no." The Jets defense is the best in the league this year, and honestly, it might not even be that close. But they are not the former Ravens for a couple of reasons. They lack an elite pass rusher. They cause problems in the opposition's passing attack because of the blitzing and the coverage in the secondary. Calvin Pace is a very good player but not elite. The Jets also have two above average safeties but they do not have an Ed Reed back there. Second, elite defenses find a way to stop game winning drives. The Jets defense has surrendered 3 game winning TD drives this season. 2 of those games they had played very well while the offense struggled to stay on the field, but could not make the play to close it out.

I think Palmer has alot of experience vs Rex and will have more than ZERO yards Sat.

[dewaynesworld63]

Of course he will have more than zero yards. They were flat and unprepared last night. Saturday is going to be a tough, grinding, physical game that will probably come down to a FG.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Hope Carson and his excuse for an 0-line/offense wears their mittens this time, it's supposed to be something like 10 degrees here Saturday.

The Bengals' D needs someone tougher/bigger than Nelson to provide run support. I sure hope Crocker is back and feeling good.

Injuries all over the defense are really hurting them - Rey was missed last night vs the run big time, as Jeanty just doesn't do the same job of disrupting blockers and attacking the LOS.

The Bengals' have some advantages going into it, but I have no doubts the Jets are and have been playing better football than the Bengals. I would consider the Bengals lucky to be in the playoffs at this point, and I hope the ass whoopin last night serves as proper motivation for Saturday.

[Ickey44]

Of course he will have more than zero yards. They were flat and unprepared last night. Saturday is going to be a tough, grinding, physical game that will probably come down to a FG.

I don't know if unprepared is the right word. I think the word is more indifferent than anything else. The Bengals surely weren't that motivated to win last night and that was evident by the people they decided not to play. I will say, though, I really didn't expect them to get spanked quite like that.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Also, I noticed on Bengals.com that Chad's knee is due for an MRI this morning, "it's swollen and I can't extend it" he said.

I really think this team is just plain cursed.

I don't think the Jets had a single injury all night.

[jjakq27]

Also, I noticed on Bengals.com that Chad's knee is due for an MRI this morning, "it's swollen and I can't extend it" he said.

I really think this team is just plain cursed.

I don't think the Jets had a single injury all night.

Yeah I was thinking some awful thoughts when Sanchez was still in the game late.

[JoePong]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

Do you think this defense is better than some of the ones he had in Baltimore? I think they can play a hell of alot better than last night.

You didn't ask me, but I believe I can answer objectiviely. The answer is "no." The Jets defense is the best in the league this year, and honestly, it might not even be that close. But they are not the former Ravens for a couple of reasons. They lack an elite pass rusher. They cause problems in the opposition's passing attack because of the blitzing and the coverage in the secondary. Calvin Pace is a very good player but not elite. The Jets also have two above average safeties but they do not have an Ed Reed back there. Second, elite defenses find a way to stop game winning drives. The Jets defense has surrendered 3 game winning TD drives this season. 2 of those games they had played very well while the offense struggled to stay on the field, but could not make the play to close it out.

I think Palmer has alot of experience vs Rex and will have more than ZERO yards Sat.

Oh yeah?

How did Palmer fare against Rex Ryan's defense LAST year? It wasn't much better than last night's results.

[cincyhokie]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

Do you think this defense is better than some of the ones he had in Baltimore? I think they can play a hell of alot better than last night.

You didn't ask me, but I believe I can answer objectiviely. The answer is "no." The Jets defense is the best in the league this year, and honestly, it might not even be that close. But they are not the former Ravens for a couple of reasons. They lack an elite pass rusher. They cause problems in the opposition's passing attack because of the blitzing and the coverage in the secondary. Calvin Pace is a very good player but not elite. The Jets also have two above average safeties but they do not have an Ed Reed back there. Second, elite defenses find a way to stop game winning drives. The Jets defense has surrendered 3 game winning TD drives this season. 2 of those games they had played very well while the offense struggled to stay on the field, but could not make the play to close it out.

I think Palmer has alot of experience vs Rex and will have more than ZERO yards Sat.

Oh yeah?

How did Palmer fare against Rex Ryan's defense LAST year? It wasn't much better than last night's results.

Before last year Palmer was 5-2 against tub o' goo. He lost last year making him 5-3. That's still pretty good.

[kingwilly]

last night i seen our o-line get completely man handled last night. i don't care how vanilla the played. they were totally out classed and could not block these guys at all. you may think last night game is nothing to be concerned about. i don't see it that way. if there front 7 is just better than we can block, you really think that going to change in 6 days? i don't, fact is we better have a good game plan to get the ball out quick and take advantage of thier agressivness. but then again we have to remember brat is gameplanning for this game. and we all know brat has no clue on how to game plan or take advantage of other team weakness.

Do you think this defense is better than some of the ones he had in Baltimore? I think they can play a hell of alot better than last night.

You didn't ask me, but I believe I can answer objectiviely. The answer is "no." The Jets defense is the best in the league this year, and honestly, it might not even be that close. But they are not the former Ravens for a couple of reasons. They lack an elite pass rusher. They cause problems in the opposition's passing attack because of the blitzing and the coverage in the secondary. Calvin Pace is a very good player but not elite. The Jets also have two above average safeties but they do not have an Ed Reed back there. Second, elite defenses find a way to stop game winning drives. The Jets defense has surrendered 3 game winning TD drives this season. 2 of those games they had played very well while the offense struggled to stay on the field, but could not make the play to close it out.

I think Palmer has alot of experience vs Rex and will have more than ZERO yards Sat.

Oh yeah?

How did Palmer fare against Rex Ryan's defense LAST year? It wasn't much better than last night's results.

Before last year Palmer was 5-2 against tub o' goo. He lost last year making him 5-3. That's still pretty good.

Pong, what do you suggest they do?

You have never made one suggestion as to how this team should/could simply "score more" or "play better"...?

Instead of lobbing verbal garbage around, which is probably the easiest thing ever, add some value to your normal spew?

If you can't....well, then, we'll all know what a sham fan you are.

oh, and also, blow a goat.

[BengalByTheBay]

I hope to god I am wrong, but maybe after they get knocked out on their home field next week, you guys will finally admit I was right all along.

Was that when you predicted a playoff appearance early in the season? Oh wait, you didn't do that? Was that when you predicted a division sweep? Oh, yeah, didn't do that either? You see, when attempting to impress everyone with how right you are all the time, it's a good idea to make a prediction before something happens. That's the first step to being "right all along." So, predict something other than a vague "the offense stinks" and we'll talk about how right you were. That is, if you were right.

[TJJackson]

oh, and also, blow a goat.

err, we're fresh out of goats, but we do have an Ox

will that do?

[gregstephens]

I have a theory here. I think Jordan wore Carson's jersey and played that first half. Look at the evidence. 'Palmer's' play in the first half looked like Jordan's in the preseason. They look veeeery similar with a little stubble growth, especially since 'Palmer' was wearing that hoodie under his helmet. Why not?

(Come on, it's something to hang some hope on.)

[Ickey44]

Did anyone notice that even with JTO in the game we were still barely getting plays off? A lot of people have been blaming Carson for all the delay of game penalties but after last night it looks like something else entirely. I still think it's Brat not getting the plays in on time.

[TJJackson]

I think you are both trying to instigate something here

With Greg, naturally, this is understandable.....but Ron Mexico?

[Ickey44]

Either the first or second series JTO was in he had two delay of game penalties in a row, IIRC. Wait, no. He had to call a timeout to avoid the first one, then I think two plays later tried to call another one but did it too late and got the flag. I turned the game off shortly after that, but the fact remains that even with JTO in the game we can't get plays called in time and THAT is yet another thing on Brat.

[HairOnFire]

Did anyone notice that even with JTO in the game we were still barely getting plays off? A lot of people have been blaming Carson for all the delay of game penalties but after last night it looks like something else entirely. I still think it's Brat not getting the plays in on time.

I thought the Hard Knocks footage made it abundantly clear Brat was at fault.

[Ickey44]

Did anyone notice that even with JTO in the game we were still barely getting plays off? A lot of people have been blaming Carson for all the delay of game penalties but after last night it looks like something else entirely. I still think it's Brat not getting the plays in on time.

I thought the Hard Knocks footage made it abundantly clear Brat was at fault.

I only saw the last two episodes so I probably didn't see that one.

[HairOnFire]

Did anyone notice that even with JTO in the game we were still barely getting plays off? A lot of people have been blaming Carson for all the delay of game penalties but after last night it looks like something else entirely. I still think it's Brat not getting the plays in on time.

I thought the Hard Knocks footage made it abundantly clear Brat was at fault.

I only saw the last two episodes so I probably didn't see that one.

Well, there was no specific incident to point to. Just repeated examples of booth footage showing the playcall being delivered too late....followed by a promise to clean things up in the future. But again, the problem was there in preseason and it hasn't been cleaned up at all. And yeah, that's on Brat.

[Ickey44]

Did anyone notice that even with JTO in the game we were still barely getting plays off? A lot of people have been blaming Carson for all the delay of game penalties but after last night it looks like something else entirely. I still think it's Brat not getting the plays in on time.

I thought the Hard Knocks footage made it abundantly clear Brat was at fault.

I only saw the last two episodes so I probably didn't see that one.

Well, there was no specific incident to point to. Just repeated examples of booth footage showing the playcall being delivered too late....followed by a promise to clean things up in the future. But again, the problem was there in preseason and it hasn't been cleaned up at all. And yeah, that's on Brat.

I don't recall seeing that from any of the episodes I saw. But there's just one more reason to go in a different direction on offense next year no matter how we do in the post season.