DC_Bengals_Fan Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Look at Vernon he couldn't block a goat.You ever try to block a goat? Believe me, not as easy as it sounds.Especially if you're between it and Mrs. Goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Look at Vernon he couldn't block a goat.You ever try to block a goat? Believe me, not as easy as it sounds.Especially if you're between it and Mrs. Goat.My family owned a couple when we lived in Reno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Damn, would have been a good pick up.Looks like Coffman is purely one for the future. This yr will be entirely spent on teaching him everything but catching the ball. Maybe they should have drafted a TE who could block to begin with?Well, if he could block then he wouldn't be on our roster because he would have went in the first round.Well I think if it wasn't for his injury he could went much higher with numbers he had compared to tight ends of past years (he did in one year that most tight ends do in their college career.)Look at Vernon he couldn't block a goat & had pretty standard receiving tight ends but fast 40 and he goes 6th.The fact that he through up 225 over 30 times didn't hurt things either. Vernon Davis had the greatest combine ever according to a lot of people.Also, from my knowledge, he is a very good run blocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Damn, would have been a good pick up.Looks like Coffman is purely one for the future. This yr will be entirely spent on teaching him everything but catching the ball. Maybe they should have drafted a TE who could block to begin with?Well, if he could block then he wouldn't be on our roster because he would have went in the first round.Erm, OK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Damn, would have been a good pick up.Looks like Coffman is purely one for the future. This yr will be entirely spent on teaching him everything but catching the ball. Maybe they should have drafted a TE who could block to begin with?Well, if he could block then he wouldn't be on our roster because he would have went in the first round.Erm, OK...Sorry I misread your post. I thought you were referring to Coffman being able to block.ON ANOTHER NOTE:Why didn't we go after Desmond Clark? He is an older TE, but he is a good blocker and he is relatively cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaBran Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Why did we not go after a more significant player? Maybe no one else was available but that is too high of a pick for that PoS Bennett! I think the Browns got a 2nd rounder for Winslow, the Giants got a 2nd or 3rd for Shockey I think. Hell, the Falcons got a Hall of Famer for a 2nd round pick! And we were gonna give up a 1st or a 2nd for Martellus Bennett... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I don't know what percentage of snaps CCoffman gets in practice, but it should've increased, because the coaches have to know than DCoats is not the answer...the Bengals don't talk about deals that didn't get done so who knows what/who they offered, JJones could be blowing smoke up our a$$..The way CCoffman looked in some of those Hard Knock episodes, I don't think he is ready to play yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Why did we not go after a more significant player? Maybe no one else was available but that is too high of a pick for that PoS Bennett! I think the Browns got a 2nd rounder for Winslow, the Giants got a 2nd or 3rd for Shockey I think. Hell, the Falcons got a Hall of Famer for a 2nd round pick! And we were gonna give up a 1st or a 2nd for Martellus Bennett... Guessimg because they must have liked him coming out last year just not as much as they liked jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaBran Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Why did we not go after a more significant player? Maybe no one else was available but that is too high of a pick for that PoS Bennett! I think the Browns got a 2nd rounder for Winslow, the Giants got a 2nd or 3rd for Shockey I think. Hell, the Falcons got a Hall of Famer for a 2nd round pick! And we were gonna give up a 1st or a 2nd for Martellus Bennett... Guessimg because they must have liked him coming out last year just not as much as they liked jerome True enough...good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I'm not an offensive cordinator, but if I had as many weapons as brat has I wouldn't be throwing in 2 TE sets. It's not working. TE is a MAJOR issue right now. Here we have 85, Coles, Caldwell, Henry and Coffman and two other TE's that are garbage. They shouldn't touch the ball. Why doesn't brat split everyone out, run 4-5 wr's, and create A LOT of mismatches? This offense has the potential RIGHT NOW to be on the same level as Indy and NE in it's prime. That's the kind of talent we have. Run the shotgun, max protect, and spread the field. We're running the ball good that's great. But I'm not impressed. We're not scoring. The only times we're scoring is when we're in the hurry or under pressure.I have mixed feelings for Brat. He's played a major role in building this offense, but calling the plays are sooo damn suspect. He should be a scout or GM not calling plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 i remember last season, our defense could not stop the run. we all was wondering why in the hell pat sims was not playing. we got the same BS story with sims that we are getting with coffman. sims was not ready and was not contributing on ST, same ol song and dance. then thornton gets hurt , in comes sims. from that point our run defense did a complete 360, we finished the season strong and had a top defense. it all started when we let sims play. now i am not saying sims was directly responsible, but he was the spark that started it. maybe coffman can do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 i remember last season, our defense could not stop the run. we all was wondering why in the hell pat sims was not playing. we got the same BS story with sims that we are getting with coffman. sims was not ready and was not contributing on ST, same ol song and dance. then thornton gets hurt , in comes sims. from that point our run defense did a complete 360, we finished the season strong and had a top defense. it all started when we let sims play. now i am not saying sims was directly responsible, but he was the spark that started it. maybe coffman can do the same.Coffman will be huge on short 3rd down and long 2nd down passing plays. Brat changing up his playbook to account for a "pass catching" TE would also, for once, be a spark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Damn, would have been a good pick up.Looks like Coffman is purely one for the future. This yr will be entirely spent on teaching him everything but catching the ball. Maybe they should have drafted a TE who could block to begin with?Well, if he could block then he wouldn't be on our roster because he would have went in the first round.Erm, OK...Sorry I misread your post. I thought you were referring to Coffman being able to block.ON ANOTHER NOTE:Why didn't we go after Desmond Clark? He is an older TE, but he is a good blocker and he is relatively cheapAh right, I thought I was missing something. Does Clarke not get too many snaps now? I know Olsen is a receiving threat but no idea about Davis vis a vis blocking. Would have been a great stop gap though if he was available for a 5th or 6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I still don't view it as giving up on Coffman even if they did make the deal for Bennett.You have to figure by bringing him in, it would still allow the team to do the development they already knew they would have to do with Coffman and then they would have Bennett and Coffmann the following year in the role they probably thought they were going to have Kelly and Utecht this season. Either way, I can't see them giving up on a player they knew was going to need work. How do you do that exactly ??I agree with not liking giving up a 2nd and a pick (of that was the offer) for Bennett as well. Just to much for an unknown. I agree he has potential, but they already have potential in Coffmann. Why bother bringing in someone that probably doesn't give you much more of an opportunity to "win now" than what you already have and having to give up picks in a heavy draft coming up in order to do so ?? Yeah, can't say as I would have been overjoyed by the trade either, but give the front office credit for trying to do ANYTHING to help the club outI don't remember the last time we were involved in talks like that mid season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I still don't view it as giving up on Coffman even if they did make the deal for Bennett.You have to figure by bringing him in, it would still allow the team to do the development they already knew they would have to do with Coffman and then they would have Bennett and Coffmann the following year in the role they probably thought they were going to have Kelly and Utecht this season.Exactly. You can't kill the team for drafting a raw, high-ceiling project in the 3rd round. You don't expect to lose the top 2 at a position during camp. They just need to buy time until Coffman is either ready, or until it's clear that Coffman isn't going to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Why did we not go after a more significant player?It must have been because Coffman is so damn good, we didn't need to go get a quality TE.....oh, wait...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Why did we not go after a more significant player?It must have been because Coffman is so damn good, we didn't need to go get a quality TE.....oh, wait......Who's Bennett? I'm not sure I'd say he's quality. 90% of football fans wouldn't even know his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 The issue isn't even Coffman. It's Coats and his stone hands. Catch the f**king ball butterfingers and everything is rosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Martellus Bennett out of Texas A&M is a young guy (in his third year I think) and was widely regarded as one of the top TEs coming out of college, he has good hands and enough size that he can block a little.EDIT:Here is the pre draft synopsis for the 2008 draft:At the 2008 NFL Scouting Combine, Bennett finished the 40-yard dash in 4.68 seconds, ranking seventh out of the eight tight ends in his group. He ranked third in the vertical jump (34 inches) and fifth in the broad jump (9–9).[20] Along with 30 other prospects,[21] he was invited to the Dallas Cowboys' Valley Ranch headquarters for a pre-draft visit on April 17–18, 2008.[22]A week prior to the draft, an Associated Press sports writer critiqued Bennett's playing abilities as follows: "Played basketball for the Aggies as well, and has the athletic ability to be a nice red-zone target. Lack of speed means he’s not a deep threat, but once he improves his routes, his strength and size should make him an asset. Needs to improve zone recognition, too. Good, aggressive blocker."[23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Let's see.. Take a risk on anoter undeveloped player or develop one of our own? Let's go with Bennet, hell why not?This team kills me sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Not sure if someone else here mentioned it, but the thinking was that the Bengals' were offering up Chris Henry and a draft pick for him.Henry looks like he's lost a step to me, so I wouldn't care all that much. It's possible Simpson was another possibility, and if so, could see why Jones passed on this altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Not sure if someone else here mentioned it, but the thinking was that the Bengals' were offering up Chris Henry and a draft pick for him.Henry looks like he's lost a step to me, so I wouldn't care all that much. It's possible Simpson was another possibility, and if so, could see why Jones passed on this altogether.I heard the same thing last night. Straight up I would take it since we have Simpson in the background too. For Henry and a 1st or 2nd round draft pick....I don't think so unless it's Jason Witten.Reading between the lines here but I think the Cowboys were asking too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaBran Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 i remember last season, our defense could not stop the run. we all was wondering why in the hell pat sims was not playing. we got the same BS story with sims that we are getting with coffman. sims was not ready and was not contributing on ST, same ol song and dance. then thornton gets hurt , in comes sims. from that point our run defense did a complete 360, we finished the season strong and had a top defense. it all started when we let sims play. now i am not saying sims was directly responsible, but he was the spark that started it. maybe coffman can do the same.very good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupaBran Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 Not sure if someone else here mentioned it, but the thinking was that the Bengals' were offering up Chris Henry and a draft pick for him.Henry looks like he's lost a step to me, so I wouldn't care all that much. It's possible Simpson was another possibility, and if so, could see why Jones passed on this altogether.I heard the same thing last night. Straight up I would take it since we have Simpson in the background too. For Henry and a 1st or 2nd round draft pick....I don't think so unless it's Jason Witten.Reading between the lines here but I think the Cowboys were asking too much.I agree...if it was Simpson or Henry straight up then yeah, but they were asking for too much for somebody that is the Jerome Simpson version at tight end! Jerry Jones said he turned it down, but I think we offered something and he wanted more and then we backed out, but Jerry thinks he turned it down!I asked my friend, who is a Cowgirls fan, about how stupid both teams were! Us, for reportedly offering that much, and them, for allegedly turning it down, but his stupid ass said he's glad that they turned it down unless it ended up being a Top10 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Not sure if someone else here mentioned it, but the thinking was that the Bengals' were offering up Chris Henry and a draft pick for him.Henry looks like he's lost a step to me, so I wouldn't care all that much. It's possible Simpson was another possibility, and if so, could see why Jones passed on this altogether.I heard the same thing last night. Straight up I would take it since we have Simpson in the background too. For Henry and a 1st or 2nd round draft pick....I don't think so unless it's Jason Witten.Reading between the lines here but I think the Cowboys were asking too much.I agree...if it was Simpson or Henry straight up then yeah, but they were asking for too much for somebody that is the Jerome Simpson version at tight end! Jerry Jones said he turned it down, but I think we offered something and he wanted more and then we backed out, but Jerry thinks he turned it down!I asked my friend, who is a Cowgirls fan, about how stupid both teams were! Us, for reportedly offering that much, and them, for allegedly turning it down, but his stupid ass said he's glad that they turned it down unless it ended up being a Top10 pick. All so we can get Bennett ?? Yeah, over the top stupid. He must not really watch the Cowboys play and simply claim to be a fan.You should have given him a head slap for that dumb ass comment !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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