Ickey44 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Posted September 15, 2009 This is the closest I've seen Hobson to being critical of the Bengals. Instead of his usual "fluff" piece, he is actually looking at reality. Maybe he ran out of ways to put a positive spin on things or he's just as sick of the losing as we are. Quote
UK Bengal Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 wow your right he really lays it down there, you know things are bad when the team writer starts getting at you!!! Quote
skyline Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Haha, yeah, that gave me a little laugh when I read it. After all the doom and gloom around here, I like to go read the happy optimistic Hobson pieces. Now, I don't even have THAT as a refuge! Quote
Ickey44 Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 No he's not. It's just a decidedly different tone for a Bengals story from him and I thought I would point it out. Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Jim Lippincott is loosening his size 62 waist belt right now I'm sure, in preparation for a private drop-pants Hobson flogging in front of Mike Brown in his office. Quote
Bearcat1975 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 "Geoff Hobson?... Jim Lippypoo, Cincinnati Bengals. We're putting you on waivers." Quote
GapControl Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 that didn't seem like a slam to me. he just stated the obvious. Quote
Ickey44 Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Posted September 17, 2009 I never said it was a slam, but it's very different from the normal "if you take away this play(s), then the Bengals played great" BS that Hobson always writes. He's always trying to paint a picture of a great organization in Cincinnati when one doesn't exist.He didn't do that in this article. Quote
Pidge Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 He's right though. I know he's not the one who drops passes, holds on certain plays etc but this is Brat's offense and the turd is dry. Ultimately it is his fault that those passes aren't caught and sloppy penalties, especially on what would otherwise be vital conversions. The mindset and attitude is on him. It's not like it just one reciever who's dropped passes these last few yrs or just one lineman who constantly gets flagged.Looks at what Zimmer has done. Not just the players brought in via FA or the draft but the attitude is a 180 from a couple of seasons ago. Hard, hungry and focused, if still a little rough around the edges.Now, finally, we have a defense that might not basically roll over and pout it all on Carson's shoulders. If the O can't get things done this yr, then well, I guess he gets to continue sucking and get paid for it until his contract runs out. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 I remember saying a few years back that if the Bengals could simply field a top 15 defense we could easily be looking at the playoffs year in and out with the offense production we were getting. Now here we are today with a defense that could actually produce top 10 results and I would think at least top 15 and our offense is sputtering. I think much of that, if not all, falls on the deterioration of the o-line and their failure to address it during the draft. I know they went out and got Andre Smith this year in the first, but even Steinbach was allowed to walk without much to fill those shoes. If the o-line can gel, things will get better, but they can't sit back and wait for that to happen. They need to continue being active on both lines... Quote
ShulaSteakhouse Posted September 18, 2009 Report Posted September 18, 2009 I remember saying a few years back that if the Bengals could simply field a top 15 defense we could easily be looking at the playoffs year in and out with the offense production we were getting. Now here we are today with a defense that could actually produce top 10 results and I would think at least top 15 and our offense is sputtering. I think much of that, if not all, falls on the deterioration of the o-line and their failure to address it during the draft. I know they went out and got Andre Smith this year in the first, but even Steinbach was allowed to walk without much to fill those shoes. If the o-line can gel, things will get better, but they can't sit back and wait for that to happen. They need to continue being active on both lines...Makes too much sense. Must be Brat's playcalling. Yeah, that's it. It's all his fault.That said, I don't know that Brat is the solution any longer, his offense is stale and predictable. But if executed and Palmer is making the right audibles, they would fare better than they did Sunday. Quote
Pidge Posted September 19, 2009 Report Posted September 19, 2009 Regardless, yes our O-line is bad. 5 yrs of neglect (nevermind letting good linemen you already have leave only to tag Andrews, are f**king kidding me?) will do that for an O-line. And Brat playbook remains unchanged. That loss was down to piss poor execution by the players on offense.Long term though, Draft anf A the hell out of both lines, especially the O-line and do not renew Brat's contract, f**k what big chin Carson think about it. Quote
RaechelParker Posted November 22, 2009 Report Posted November 22, 2009 Very nice post with a ton of informative information. I really appreciate the fact that you approach these topics from a stand point of knowledge and information instead of the typical “I think” mentality that you see so much on the internet these days. Quote
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