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Personally I far more concerned about the Bengals offensive line letting opposing defenses kick the living s**t out of Palmer AGAIN making any healing found during the off season a moot f**kin' point! <_<

I have to agree here. I think the odds of a recurring broken nose caused by an overly porous o-line are much greater than a recurrence of the elbow thing. If the elbow was THAT big of deal, I don't believe there would have been the ultimate decision to forego surgery.

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Just trying to relate another thread conversation and think of the best case scenario in my opinion.

Carson knocking the sh*t out of Chad would fill my heart with great amounts of happiness !!!

Granted he doesn't hurt his hand in the process...

I'd rather see Jordan Palmer take Ocho's ass down when he is screaming at Carson about something idiotic. That way Jordan earns his paycheck while being a good brother.

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Just trying to relate another thread conversation and think of the best case scenario in my opinion.

Carson knocking the sh*t out of Chad would fill my heart with great amounts of happiness !!!

Granted he doesn't hurt his hand in the process...

I'd rather see Jordan Palmer take Ocho's ass down when he is screaming at Carson about something idiotic. That way Jordan earns his paycheck while being a good brother.

I see no issues with that scenario, except that some assh*le would make the argument that Carson can't fight his own fights and lacks leadership and that it probably had something to do with his shoulder injury that never quite healed properly due to the crack medical staff the Bengals have !!!

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Just trying to relate another thread conversation and think of the best case scenario in my opinion.

Carson knocking the sh*t out of Chad would fill my heart with great amounts of happiness !!!

Granted he doesn't hurt his hand in the process...

I'd rather see Jordan Palmer take Ocho's ass down when he is screaming at Carson about something idiotic. That way Jordan earns his paycheck while being a good brother.

I see no issues with that scenario, except that some assh*le would make the argument that Carson can't fight his own fights and lacks leadership and that it probably had something to do with his shoulder injury that never quite healed properly due to the crack medical staff the Bengals have !!!

Just remember, Carson, punch with the LEFT!!! And make sure he doesn't get up.

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Well lets do the math here...

brad-pitt-with-a-bloody-nose-coen-brothers-burn-af.jpg

So far in Carson's brief stint as a Bengals he has:

Shredded the leg he plants with

Broken his nose

Jacked up his throwing arm

Had to reinvent how he plants his foot before throwing

You'll remember right before Carson finally went down last season, he was starting to look like Mike Vick. Mike Vick in a phone booth, in slow motion, I mean.

What it comes down to is this: Can Carson's pedigree and lifetime training overcome all of the above obstacles including the obstacle of being a Cincinnati Bengal?

I hope so, but honestly? I think Elite Carson is done. I think we are stuck with Damaged Carson. I think he hears "footsteps." I think he holds on to the ball too long. And I think his passes tend to sail on him since he had to change the way he plants his leg before the throw.

But hey, who knows. Maybe Palmer comes back from all of this and has a pro-bowl season. But if I were a betting man, I know where my money would be, and it wouldn't be with Carson Palmer or the Bengals this season.

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I hope so, but honestly? I think Elite Carson is done. I think we are stuck with Damaged Carson. I think he hears "footsteps." I think he holds on to the ball too long.

Now you're crazy. If he hears footsteps, why would he hold on to the ball too long?

And remember, in '07 he set the Bengals record for fewest sacks playing behind one of the NFL's worst O-lines. That's because he was so willing to throw the ball away.

You want to believe the '05 Carson is gone for good? You might be right... but perhaps the only reason that "Elite Carson" existed in the first place was because he played behind an excellent O-line for a short time. Because with no time to throw, he's forced to abandon the play as planned, and you'll never see those 05 numbers again unless you protect his blind side and get a Center who can't be bull-rushed. Oh yeah... and a running game couldn't hurt either.

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I think Elite Carson is done. I think we are stuck with Damaged Carson. I think he hears "footsteps." I think he holds on to the ball too long. And I think his passes tend to sail on him since he had to change the way he plants his leg before the throw.

It's possible. I've repeatedly said Carson's career has reached a crossroads, but not so much because of the lasting physical erosion that often comes with injury, but due to the loss of near perfect technique that once prompted me to tag Palmer as the Cartoon QB with Kung Fu Grip. (Circa 2005)

Frankly, I have no idea when or if we ever see that guy again.

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I think Elite Carson is done. I think we are stuck with Damaged Carson. I think he hears "footsteps." I think he holds on to the ball too long. And I think his passes tend to sail on him since he had to change the way he plants his leg before the throw.

It's possible. I've repeatedly said Carson's career has reached a crossroads, but not so much because of the lasting physical erosion that often comes with injury, but due to the loss of near perfect technique that once prompted me to tag Palmer as the Cartoon QB with Kung Fu Grip. (Circa 2005)

Frankly, I have no idea when or if we ever see that guy again.

Exactly. Coming out of USC, and pretty much all his life I imagine, it was as if Carson was born to be a QB. His technique and accuracy was among the best QBs I had ever seen.

But now? He looks and acts more like Klingler than Palmer to me. We'll see though. Enjoy this time, gents. Its right before the draft AKA the highlight of Bengal related optimism. Nothing left to do now but draft the big baby from Alabama and wait for the holdout. :rolleyes:

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Well lets do the math here...

brad-pitt-with-a-bloody-nose-coen-brothers-burn-af.jpg

So far in Carson's brief stint as a Bengals he has:

Shredded the leg he plants with

Broken his nose

Jacked up his throwing arm

Had to reinvent how he plants his foot before throwing

Lead the NFL in TD passes '05

2nd in TD passes '06

2-time Pro Bowler

Pro Bowl MVP

2-4,000 yd seasons

Lead the NFL in Completion Percentage (67.8%) in '05

63.7% Career Completion Pct

107 TD's vs. 67 Int's

15,630 Career Yds

So far in Carson's brief stint as a Bengal he has: READ ABOVE

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carson being limited in practice and not full go concerns me, and obviously there is some concern from the bengals also. i don't think carson is starting to go lame on us either. last season, i don't know of any qb that could have performed well in our offense. the 2 starting W/R's not ready to play and embarrassed themselves out there, then the worst o-line in the whole league, crap for rb, not time to do anything. last season was doomed from the get go. i think carson is still a qb capable of putting up big numbers and leading this team to wins. .

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Lead the NFL in TD passes '05 2005 AKA The PRE-BROKEN Carson Palmer

2nd in TD passes '06

2-time Pro Bowler

Pro Bowl MVP 2005 AKA The PRE-BROKEN Carson Palmer

2-4,000 yd seasons

Lead the NFL in Completion Percentage (67.8%) in '05 2005 AKA The PRE-BROKEN Carson Palmer

63.7% Career Completion Pct

107 TD's vs. 67 Int's

15,630 Career Yds

So far in Carson's brief stint as a Bengal he has: READ ABOVE

Nevermind that half of your stats are from 2005... I'm not saying Carson Palmer sucked. Far from it. He made it look like an art form. I'm saying that as of his arm injury against the Giants, and probably before that, he is finished as an NFL QB of any kind of productivity.

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Nevermind that half of your stats are from 2005... I'm not saying Carson Palmer sucked. Far from it. He made it look like an art form. I'm saying that as of his arm injury against the Giants, and probably before that, he is finished as an NFL QB of any kind of productivity.

While I can wholeheartedly agree that Carson may not ever be the Carson that had all the initial success and understand the questions surrounding him, I'm not sure I can agree with the bolded above portion. I think if Carson is given an o-line that is solid or closer to resembling the one from 2005, we could expect results we all loved about him early on. If not, he will be a bloody mess, but I think it has more to do with the o-line than Carson himself.

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Nevermind that half of your stats are from 2005... I'm not saying Carson Palmer sucked. Far from it. He made it look like an art form. I'm saying that as of his arm injury against the Giants, and probably before that, he is finished as an NFL QB of any kind of productivity.

While I can wholeheartedly agree that Carson may not ever be the Carson that had all the initial success and understand the questions surrounding him, I'm not sure I can agree with the bolded above portion.

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