Shaun Rogers Is PMSing

[COB]

Noted fat guy Shaun Rogers supposedly wants out of Cleveland. He's just not getting the respect he deserves! The writer of this story, Mary Kay Abbot, is the Browns beat reporter for the Plain Dealer and gets all the respect she deserves. She's a good reporter.

I am now glad we didn't get stuck with this guy, and I see why Detroit was so willing to get rid of him. Also, I wish I owned a McDonalds near his house because you just know he's going to stuff his face to make everything all better.

Here's the link and the story.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...rogers_rep.html

Browns Pro Bowl defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is so disgruntled with new coach Eric Mangini and the new regime that he's asked the team not to pay his guaranteed $6 million option bonus next month, nfl.com's Adam Schefter reported Tuesday night.

Eric ManginiSchefter, according to a source close to Rogers, said the tackle would rather be released after only one season even though he's owed $15 million in guaranteed money. However, he hasn't asked yet to be released, the Browns told nfl.com.

Rogers is reportedly miffed about two off-season incidents in which he feels Mangini snubbed him. The first time, Mangini walked into the Browns' training room and didn't say hello to Rogers, the source said. The second time, Mangini and Rogers were together in the media room at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards on Jan. 23 and neither acknowledged the other.

Mangini said at a news conference Feb. 4: "I didn't even realize Shaun was there at the time. I know that's probably hard to believe considering how big he is and how big I am. It's like two destroyers missing each other."

Mangini recently reached out to Rogers, according to the report. And a source within the Browns organization told Schefter that Mangini is still optimistic he can sway Rogers once they speak. But sources close to Rogers say he won't change his mind.

The report says some believe there are other reasons why Rogers wants to leave the Browns, but didn't specify.

Shaun RogersAcquired in a trade with the Detroit Lions last off-season for cornerback Leigh Bodden and a third-round pick, Rogers signed a six-year, $42 million deal that extended his contract by three years through 2013. It included $20 million in guarantees and a total of $23 million over the first three years.

Rogers' season, which included 76 tackles, 4.5 sacks and a team-high 15 pressures, earned him his third Pro Bowl and it appeared his career had been rejuvenated after leaving Detroit.

The Browns would take a $9.7 million salary-cap hit if they cut Rogers, according to the report, but they have no intentions of releasing him.

Mangini might have already known trouble was brewing during his Feb. 4 news conference. He wished Rogers well for the Pro Bowl the following weekend and said Rogers would have a chance there to talk to New York Jets Pro Bowl tackle Kris Jenkins, a big Mangini supporter.

"Shaun will be able to ask Kris some questions about me," Mangini said. "Kris and I had a great relationship and I think that'll be good."

It wouldn't be the first time Mangini has had to win over a star player. When he took over as Jets coach in 2006, he had to change the mind-set of receiver Laveranues Coles. Last off-season, he flew to Coles' home in Jacksonville to smooth over a contract squabble.

If things can't be resolved, the Browns will lose their best player on defense and only the second defensive player to make the Pro Bowl since 1995. Linebacker Jamir Miller earned the nod after the 2001 season. A league source said Rogers is the only Browns defensive player good enough to start for the Steelers or Ravens.

[ArmyBengal]

What a b*tch. The coach didn't talk to him ?? Whatever...

[HairOnFire]

Perhaps it's time to bump that Paul Daugherty article about everything being better in Cleveland?

[Thurmanation]

Noted fat guy Shaun Rogers supposedly wants out of Cleveland. He's just not getting the respect he deserves! The writer of this story, Mary Kay Abbot, is the Browns beat reporter for the Plain Dealer and gets all the respect she deserves. She's a good reporter.

I am now glad we didn't get stuck with this guy, and I see why Detroit was so willing to get rid of him. Also, I wish I owned a McDonalds near his house because you just know he's going to stuff his face to make everything all better.

Here's the link and the story.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...rogers_rep.html

Browns Pro Bowl defensive tackle Shaun Rogers is so disgruntled with new coach Eric Mangini and the new regime that he's asked the team not to pay his guaranteed $6 million option bonus next month, nfl.com's Adam Schefter reported Tuesday night.

Eric ManginiSchefter, according to a source close to Rogers, said the tackle would rather be released after only one season even though he's owed $15 million in guaranteed money. However, he hasn't asked yet to be released, the Browns told nfl.com.

Rogers is reportedly miffed about two off-season incidents in which he feels Mangini snubbed him. The first time, Mangini walked into the Browns' training room and didn't say hello to Rogers, the source said. The second time, Mangini and Rogers were together in the media room at the Greater Cleveland Sports Awards on Jan. 23 and neither acknowledged the other.

Mangini said at a news conference Feb. 4: "I didn't even realize Shaun was there at the time. I know that's probably hard to believe considering how big he is and how big I am. It's like two destroyers missing each other."

Mangini recently reached out to Rogers, according to the report. And a source within the Browns organization told Schefter that Mangini is still optimistic he can sway Rogers once they speak. But sources close to Rogers say he won't change his mind.

The report says some believe there are other reasons why Rogers wants to leave the Browns, but didn't specify.

Shaun RogersAcquired in a trade with the Detroit Lions last off-season for cornerback Leigh Bodden and a third-round pick, Rogers signed a six-year, $42 million deal that extended his contract by three years through 2013. It included $20 million in guarantees and a total of $23 million over the first three years.

Rogers' season, which included 76 tackles, 4.5 sacks and a team-high 15 pressures, earned him his third Pro Bowl and it appeared his career had been rejuvenated after leaving Detroit.

The Browns would take a $9.7 million salary-cap hit if they cut Rogers, according to the report, but they have no intentions of releasing him.

Mangini might have already known trouble was brewing during his Feb. 4 news conference. He wished Rogers well for the Pro Bowl the following weekend and said Rogers would have a chance there to talk to New York Jets Pro Bowl tackle Kris Jenkins, a big Mangini supporter.

"Shaun will be able to ask Kris some questions about me," Mangini said. "Kris and I had a great relationship and I think that'll be good."

It wouldn't be the first time Mangini has had to win over a star player. When he took over as Jets coach in 2006, he had to change the mind-set of receiver Laveranues Coles. Last off-season, he flew to Coles' home in Jacksonville to smooth over a contract squabble.

If things can't be resolved, the Browns will lose their best player on defense and only the second defensive player to make the Pro Bowl since 1995. Linebacker Jamir Miller earned the nod after the 2001 season. A league source said Rogers is the only Browns defensive player good enough to start for the Steelers or Ravens.

I still wish he was in stripes right now.

He can do what both our DT's fail to do together on his own. If hes going to the pro-bowl and your the new head coach you acknowledge his talent by saying 'hi'. It's not that hard, but im not saying he was right here to throw a press conference saying he wants out because of this incident. Im betting he wants out cause he see's now how bad the Browns are and will be for the next 3 to 5.

[COB]

He's a malcontent, a quitter, and a high maintenance douchebag. He's the last thing this team needs right now. Sure he'd get HIS on the field. Meanwhile he poisons the culture of your locker room. He destroys your team. He's a great player, right? An all-pro, right? Guess what, the Lions sucked every year he played for them. He went to the Browns, and they suck.

We can all agree that some guys are just great team players. They embody the team-first ethos, and make a team greater than the sum of its parts. Ray Lewis comes to mind. Mike Singletary. Don't laugh, but I think Kurt Warner is that kind of player. Reggie White.

And if the above is true, then isn't the opposite true as well? Aren't there players who just f**k things up so bad that your team plays worse than the sum of its parts? I know it's true. And Shaun Roger is that kind of player. We didn't need him to bring his selfish act to Cincy.

[ArmyBengal]

I hope Zimmer is going to pound the game into the head of Shirley, because he still has the opportunity to be that guy for us.

If Shirley takes it all in and wants to be a force, he certainly has the size and athleticism to be that guy.

There's always hoping...

[HairOnFire]

Im betting he wants out cause he see's now how bad the Browns are and will be for the next 3 to 5.

JungleD? Where have I heard that name before? For the life of me I just can't seem to place it.

I'd say he wants out precisely because the Browns made a coaching change that he doesn't like. And who was the dick-shaped cracker eating idiot who repeatedly suggested coaches be fired simply because it sometimes sends a happy feel-good message?

Paul Daugherty, right?

[Thurmanation]

He's a malcontent, a quitter, and a high maintenance douchebag. He's the last thing this team needs right now. Sure he'd get HIS on the field. Meanwhile he poisons the culture of your locker room. He destroys your team. He's a great player, right? An all-pro, right? Guess what, the Lions sucked every year he played for them. He went to the Browns, and they suck.

We can all agree that some guys are just great team players. They embody the team-first ethos, and make a team greater than the sum of its parts. Ray Lewis comes to mind. Mike Singletary. Don't laugh, but I think Kurt Warner is that kind of player. Reggie White.

And if the above is true, then isn't the opposite true as well? Aren't there players who just f**k things up so bad that your team plays worse than the sum of its parts? I know it's true. And Shaun Roger is that kind of player. We didn't need him to bring his selfish act to Cincy.

Id take Shaun Rogers "bulls**t" and amazing skill over John Thornton and Willie Anderson's leadership and mediocre play they showed the past couple years anyday.

Also the neither the Lions or the Browns problems can be blamed on Shaun Rogers. I also can't recall Rogers doing anything demoralising-wise this season or the last he was with the Lions, when does this occur?

[agreen_112]

He's a malcontent, a quitter, and a high maintenance douchebag. He's the last thing this team needs right now. Sure he'd get HIS on the field. Meanwhile he poisons the culture of your locker room. He destroys your team. He's a great player, right? An all-pro, right? Guess what, the Lions sucked every year he played for them. He went to the Browns, and they suck.

We can all agree that some guys are just great team players. They embody the team-first ethos, and make a team greater than the sum of its parts. Ray Lewis comes to mind. Mike Singletary. Don't laugh, but I think Kurt Warner is that kind of player. Reggie White.

And if the above is true, then isn't the opposite true as well? Aren't there players who just f**k things up so bad that your team plays worse than the sum of its parts? I know it's true. And Shaun Roger is that kind of player. We didn't need him to bring his selfish act to Cincy.

Yeah but he's a BEAST!! I'd take him. I think you offer him a 2 or 3 year deal if released. We should offer a trade. He would make this team soooooo much better. Clevelands defense is horrible, that's why he doesn't want to be there. Show him our numbers from last season and butter him up about how he alone could help put our defense in the top 10 and I think he'd think about it.

[COB]

and butter him up about how he alone could help put our defense in the top 10 and I think he'd think about it.

I think you've got it. You have to think of about 12 different ways to kiss his ass, then maybe he'll play for you.

[TJJackson]

He's a malcontent, a quitter, and a high maintenance douchebag. He's the last thing this team needs right now. Sure he'd get HIS on the field. Meanwhile he poisons the culture of your locker room. He destroys your team. He's a great player, right? An all-pro, right? Guess what, the Lions sucked every year he played for them. He went to the Browns, and they suck.

Yeah but he's a BEAST!! I'd take him. I think you offer him a 2 or 3 year deal if released. We should offer a trade. He would make this team soooooo much better.

As of this post, you're back in the running with JoeWrong as the board's most intellect-challenged member. Congratulations.

Now scurry along and get back to giving Chad tonguebaths, 'kay?

[Thurmanation]

He's a malcontent, a quitter, and a high maintenance douchebag. He's the last thing this team needs right now. Sure he'd get HIS on the field. Meanwhile he poisons the culture of your locker room. He destroys your team. He's a great player, right? An all-pro, right? Guess what, the Lions sucked every year he played for them. He went to the Browns, and they suck.

Yeah but he's a BEAST!! I'd take him. I think you offer him a 2 or 3 year deal if released. We should offer a trade. He would make this team soooooo much better.

As of this post, you're back in the running with JoeWrong as the board's most intellect-challenged member. Congratulations.

Now scurry along and get back to giving Chad tonguebaths, 'kay?

TJ just cause you've become content with having a s**t team to cheer for doesn't mean we have to be happy with it too.

I guess me and agreen just see that having talent wins you games, and im assuming he likes cheering for a winning team like i do.

[Whur CHad At?]

Don't listen to TJ, he is wrong about 100% of the time.

[BengalPimp]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaah Coach didnt say "hi" to me.......

So the F**K what? Its not like your some scrub trying to impress the coach and make the team! You just made the friggin Pro Bowl and have a contract that pays you in excess of $7 million per....

Trust me, the coach knows who you are.

Sounds like this guy has serious self-esteem problems..........Glad he didnt come to Cincy, talent or no, we dont need another headache.

[Thurmanation]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaah Coach didnt say "hi" to me.......

So the F**K what? Its not like your some scrub trying to impress the coach and make the team! You just made the friggin Pro Bowl and have a contract that pays you in excess of $7 million per....

Trust me, the coach knows who you are.

Sounds like this guy has serious self-esteem problems..........Glad he didnt come to Cincy, talent or no, we dont need another headache.

Ill take a headache and a superbowl over another 20 years of this crap. Once again i wanna know why people are calling Rogers a "character issue". What has he done other then this? Theres also speculation about what hes really complaining about. He wants to be on a winning team like any other player in the NFL who has to carry, for lack of a better word, their team.

Also your paying the man millions of dollars to play football. Thats it. If he wants to complain about random BS let him. If the rest of your team can't get over one player complaining about one thing then your coach isn't doing enough to keep there moral up.

[agreen_112]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah Waaaaaaaaaaaah Coach didnt say "hi" to me.......

So the F**K what? Its not like your some scrub trying to impress the coach and make the team! You just made the friggin Pro Bowl and have a contract that pays you in excess of $7 million per....

Trust me, the coach knows who you are.

Sounds like this guy has serious self-esteem problems..........Glad he didnt come to Cincy, talent or no, we dont need another headache.

Ill take a headache and a superbowl over another 20 years of this crap. Once again i wanna know why people are calling Rogers a "character issue". What has he done other then this? Theres also speculation about what hes really complaining about. He wants to be on a winning team like any other player in the NFL who has to carry, for lack of a better word, their team.

Also your paying the man millions of dollars to play football. Thats it. If he wants to complain about random BS let him. If the rest of your team can't get over one player complaining about one thing then your coach isn't doing enough to keep there moral up.

Exactly... I swear man, some of the guys on this board are so high on their own horses (TJJACK) that they are too stupid to read between the lines.. For anyone (BengalPimp) to think that Rodgers only problem is that coach didn't say hi to him, you're must be off the rocker. This is speculation like Jungle says. The real problem is that Rodgers is playing on a s**tty defense. He's pissed just like Chad is pissed and rightfully so. Who wants to play on a losing team?

I guess I'm in love with Chad because I see where he's coming from. Jesus man, we just lost our #1 WR becuse why? HE"S TIRED OF LOSING!! Said it himself.

The problem is that we could never attract Shaun at this point. Two years ago he was the #1 DT in the NFL. I still think he's top 5. Why would you NOT want a top 5 DT on your team?

And wow! TJ, you are so much smarter than me. Good for you... Still never played a sport in your life so I got ya there pal. There's book knowledge and hands-on experience. Which one outweighs the other on a sports message board?.... Now duck tail and run along on to the next thread smart guy.

[TJJackson]

And wow! TJ, you are so much smarter than me. Good for you... Still never played a sport in your life so I got ya there pal. There's book knowledge and hands-on experience. Which one outweighs the other on a sports message board?.... Now duck tail and run along on to the next thread smart guy.

*laff*

pathetic

[Pidge]

Talent wins you precisely dick in this league, or any professional sports for that matter. It takes a whole lot more than just talent.

[agreen_112]

Talent wins you precisely dick in this league, or any professional sports for that matter. It takes a whole lot more than just talent.

You're right! Well done... It does take more than talent. It takes coaching first and foremost. Marv is a good coach... But, talent beats NO talent. I'd take Rodgers any day.

Duck tail and run... just like I said TJ (He will never admit that he's never played a sport).

[TJJackson]

again....pathetic

[agreen_112]

again....pathetic

#3171 pointless posts... Keep racking 'em up.

[TJJackson]

Rarely has a higher compliment been paid to me than you (specifically) thinking my posts are pointless.

You've made my day

Thankee

[Thurmanation]

Talent wins you precisely dick in this league, or any professional sports for that matter. It takes a whole lot more than just talent.

I think the Boston Celtics would disagree with you. As well as the Randy Moss-Wes Welker-Ben Watson 16-0 Pats. They turned that "DICK H3AD RANDY MOSS!!!" into what he is now. Good coaching turns a**h*** players into what Randy is now; Humble to be on a winning team.

[Pidge]

Talent wins you precisely dick in this league, or any professional sports for that matter. It takes a whole lot more than just talent.

I think the Boston Celtics would disagree with you. As well as the Randy Moss-Wes Welker-Ben Watson 16-0 Pats. They turned that "DICK H3AD RANDY MOSS!!!" into what he is now. Good coaching turns a**h*** players into what Randy is now; Humble to be on a winning team.

Precisely. Talent alone wins you precisely dick.

[Thurmanation]

Talent wins you precisely dick in this league, or any professional sports for that matter. It takes a whole lot more than just talent.

I think the Boston Celtics would disagree with you. As well as the Randy Moss-Wes Welker-Ben Watson 16-0 Pats. They turned that "DICK H3AD RANDY MOSS!!!" into what he is now. Good coaching turns a**h*** players into what Randy is now; Humble to be on a winning team.

Precisely. Talent alone wins you precisely dick.

I don't know how your mis-understanding me, but the Boston Celtics won the NBA championship with bought, disgruntled players. Also Im not sure that 16-0 is "dick" but i know for a fact the record for most touchdowns in a season isn't.