HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 From 1530homer.com:Rice receiver Jarrett Dillard says the combine has no way to "measure heart" -- spoken like a guy who measured 5-10.Said the Bengals and Jaguars have shown the most interest in him.From a size standpoint, he doesn't fit the Bengals prototype but he had amazing production in college and is a 4.3 guy. I believe that he broke Larry Fitzgerald's NCAA BCS record for consecutive games with a receiving TD . If he can return kicks, he could be a guy they take in the 3rd or 4th round. Possibly a Steve Smith type? Keep an eye on him tomorrow.http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2009_NFL_Draft/...tt_dilliard.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Jarrett Dillard is the real deal. He will get overlooked but could be there in the 3rd or 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Did he return kicks in college? There's nothing about that listed in his profile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 4th wouldn't be to bad...Really just don't wanna see a WR earlier then that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Did he return kicks in college? There's nothing about that listed in his profileHad only one KR in his entire college career, but maybe he was too valuable to have him back there. I don't know if I've ever seen a receiver have multiple 20 TD seasons (21 in '06 and 20 last year) in a college career. Nine catches for 158 yards and a TD in a blowout loss to Texas is impressive, too. Production wise, he's at least as good as Crabtree and should be available much later. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/stats?playerId=157274 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 He played at RICE, I would hope his production was better than Crabtree's. Crabtree's the better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 He played at RICE, I would hope his production was better than Crabtree's. Crabtree's the better player.Rice has ALWAYS been known as a running offense. Question: Who was the last NFL QB from Rice?Answer: Former Bengal Donald Hollas, who was a 4th round pick in 1991. He was an option-type QB himself.The Jarrett Dilliard hype might be over, as he ran a 4.53 today. How about Penn State WR/KR (and Marv favorite) Derrick Williams, who ran as slow as a 4.67? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I repeat Anquan Bolden ran a 4.74 40 at the combine, look how he turned out. Just because a guy runs a 4.2 40 in underarmour doesnt mean he is a good football player. Dilliard could be a great player a 4.5 40 is pretty good. Rice has changed their offense by the way. They are very pass happy. THeir tight end John Kassay had like 110 receptions last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I repeat Anquan Bolden ran a 4.74 40 at the combine, look how he turned out. Just because a guy runs a 4.2 40 in underarmour doesnt mean he is a good football player. Dilliard could be a great player a 4.5 40 is pretty good. Rice has changed their offense by the way. They are very pass happy. THeir tight end John Kassay had like 110 receptions last year.For every Anquan Boldin, there are five Mike Williams. He is far from the rule when it comes to slow 40's at the combine at the WR position, translating to NFL production. Boldin also ran a 4.59 at his pro day, so I guess we'll have to wait and see if Derrick Williams can shave off a tenth and a half from his time, too.You are right about Rice changing their offense, but 20 touchdowns in Division 1-A football is 20 touchdowns. That's outstanding production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Without a doubt, that is an amazing stat. I would not be sad if we drafted him. I am just saying Crab is a better all around prospect now. Dilliard is still high on my list. We shouldn't just judge them on 40 times. You can judge Dilliard and Crabtree just on how fast they can run 40 yards alone. You have to look on film and see the production on the field. They both have proven that they can play.What do you think of Mike Wallace of Ole Miss and Patrick Turner of USC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 A word of caution about WR rankings and 40 yard dash times. No position sees it's rankings jumbled by fast track times nearly as much as WR and that was more true last year than perhaps ever before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Without a doubt, that is an amazing stat. I would not be sad if we drafted him. I am just saying Crab is a better all around prospect now. Dilliard is still high on my list. We shouldn't just judge them on 40 times. You can judge Dilliard and Crabtree just on how fast they can run 40 yards alone. You have to look on film and see the production on the field. They both have proven that they can play.What do you think of Mike Wallace of Ole Miss and Patrick Turner of USC?Mike Wallace has extremely rare speed. He wanted to break the record at the Combine. I'm a little concerned with the 39 catches and less than 800 yards for a guy that explosive, physically. I read once where he said he can run in the high 4.1's before he ran at 4.21 on campus.I like Pat Turner and he's got great size but Mayock made a great point in saying that receivers 6'5'' plus typically don't have much of an impact at WR. He's interesting, nonetheless and looked good at the Senior Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I believe Wallace would make an excellent KR at the next level. He did have 7 touchdowns for the year so that isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Call me crazy, but I'm starting to LOVE the idea of taking Pat White in the 2nd round. He looked the best throwing the ball of any QB today, including Matt Sanchez. He could return kicks and punts and play some receiver or in some wildcat-types of formations. It would give our offense a new look and he could be a good backup QB in a year or two. The guy's a playmaker and could boost our offense in a limited role, while solving the KR/PR problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I second that. Pat White is the best player at this combine IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Dilliard had a 42.5 inch vertical, best at the combine so far. As a comparison, Jerome Simpson ran a 4.47 at last year's combine, 37.5 inch vertical and an unreal 11-4 in the broad jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 And all Simpson has to show for it last season is, 1 catch for 1 yard, and an horrible offense of pass interference penalty in the Green Bay Pre-season game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 And all Simpson has to show for it last season is, 1 catch for 1 yard, and an horrible offense of pass interference penalty in the Green Bay Pre-season game.One thing to consider is if the Bengals do in fact draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd, they've figured that either Simpson or Caldwell does not have starting-quality potential and they seem to really like both of these guys. This is even more important as the Bengals will more than likely use less 3 WR sets on 1st and 2nd down as they try to run the ball more.If it's not Pat White, I really don't see the point of the Bengals drafting a WR type in the 1st 3 rounds, unless somebody falls to their draft spot, is the best value on the board and has some real KR ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 I wanna see how Pat White does on his pro day as a WR. If he does good I would make a case to draft him in Rd.2. I think that Simpson has a lot of learning to do still that it might be another year or two for him to really reach his potential. I think that Crabtree would be a good pick for us because he can play right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I wanna see how Pat White does on his pro day as a WR. If he does good I would make a case to draft him in Rd.2. I think that Simpson has a lot of learning to do still that it might be another year or two for him to really reach his potential. I think that Crabtree would be a good pick for us because he can play right away.I'd rather see the team wait and see how Simpson and Caldwell develop. Chad and Henry are both signed for '09 and both have a good chance to be gone after the season. If Simpon and Caldwell develop some consistency this year while showing they could be starters for us, then all you're looking for next year is a 3rd WR. We're going to be running a lot less 3 WR sets, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Can we really keep faith in Henry for the long term? No. The time is now to replace TJ with a big time playmaker we can rely on for years to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Can we really keep faith in Henry for the long term? No. The time is now to replace TJ with a big time playmaker we can rely on for years to comeUm What do you think caldwell was drafted for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 One thing to consider is if the Bengals do in fact draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd, they've figured that either Simpson or Caldwell does not have starting-quality potential and they seem to really like both of these guys.The thing is, I DON'T think the organization thinks that about Simpson OR Caldwell. Actually I think just the opposite. With TJ being gone (more than likely), Henry nearing the end of his contract, and Chad only having maybe two more years, drafting WR wouldn't suprise me. If they do though, the dude should have some return skills in order to get any production from him at all this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 One thing to consider is if the Bengals do in fact draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd, they've figured that either Simpson or Caldwell does not have starting-quality potential and they seem to really like both of these guys.The thing is, I DON'T think the organization thinks that about Simpson OR Caldwell. Actually I think just the opposite. With TJ being gone (more than likely), Henry nearing the end of his contract, and Chad only having maybe two more years, drafting WR wouldn't suprise me. If they do though, the dude should have some return skills in order to get any production from him at all this year.That's why Maclin would have to be the pick high. With Chad staying, Caldwell and Henry seemingly improving and a very high pick invested in Simpson (in his 2nd year), how do you get snaps for ANY rookie receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 And that's exactly why I said I was really ok with knowing Crabtree would be gone by #6, IF the Bengals were to go WR in the first. GIve me Maclin and his return skills and color me happy. That being said, I still would rather go in another direction... Also, Maclin is having an MRI on his knee. Hope it works out for the kid, he was having a good combine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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