HairOnFire Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 and the 4.0 gpa was only one quarter, and that was an internship at a rec center, so. . . So I guess I'll moderate any good feelings I was having. I wasn't putting alot of stock in the GPA thing, but one of the things teams will use to seperate evenly ranked prospects is intelligence, right? And we've all read the stories about Andrew Whitworth's blackboard demonstration, right? So imagine the conversation in the Benagls warroom if the final choice comes down to Jason Smith or Michael Oher. And btw, wasn't the scouts appraisal of Oher far more critical than the paper thin slight directed at Jason Smith? Last point. The scout tap danced around something that's been bugging me for awhile. That being, the story about Monroe being so good from day one that it forced Brandon Alpert inside. Not true, not close. Virginia coaches explained at the time how they felt Monroe wasn't experienced or powerful enough to match up with interior defenders and would fare better against faster but smaller DE's. Since Alpert was capable of playing both positions a position switch allowed the coaches to get Monroe on the field sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 and the 4.0 gpa was only one quarter, and that was an internship at a rec center, so. . . So I guess I'll moderate any good feelings I was having. I wasn't putting alot of stock in the GPA thing, but one of the things teams will use to seperate evenly ranked prospects is intelligence, right? And we've all read the stories about Andrew Whitworth's blackboard demonstration, right? So imagine the conversation in the Benagls warroom if the final choice comes down to Jason Smith or Michael Oher. And btw, wasn't the scouts appraisal of Oher far more critical than the paper thin slight directed at Jason Smith? Last point. The scout tap danced around something that's been bugging me for awhile. That being, the story about Monroe being so good from day one that it forced Brandon Alpert inside. Not true, not close. Virginia coaches explained at the time how they felt Monroe wasn't experienced or powerful enough to match up with interior defenders and would fare better against faster but smaller DE's. Since Alpert was capable of playing both positions a position switch allowed the coaches to get Monroe on the field sooner.Jason Smith also said: I’ve watched DeMarcus Ware, and when he gets his sacks, I’m like, he wouldn’t have gotten that on me. That’s the mindset you have to have, don’t waste anybody’s time if you don’t believe in your ability. If you don’t believe you can block somebody, you’re going to get someone seriously injured or fired.If you drafted off personality and interviews this dude would be my pick. Calling out Demarcus Ware? That is crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baraka Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 and the 4.0 gpa was only one quarter, and that was an internship at a rec center, so. . . So I guess I'll moderate any good feelings I was having. I wasn't putting alot of stock in the GPA thing, but one of the things teams will use to seperate evenly ranked prospects is intelligence, right? And we've all read the stories about Andrew Whitworth's blackboard demonstration, right? So imagine the conversation in the Benagls warroom if the final choice comes down to Jason Smith or Michael Oher. And btw, wasn't the scouts appraisal of Oher far more critical than the paper thin slight directed at Jason Smith? Last point. The scout tap danced around something that's been bugging me for awhile. That being, the story about Monroe being so good from day one that it forced Brandon Alpert inside. Not true, not close. Virginia coaches explained at the time how they felt Monroe wasn't experienced or powerful enough to match up with interior defenders and would fare better against faster but smaller DE's. Since Alpert was capable of playing both positions a position switch allowed the coaches to get Monroe on the field sooner.i definitley think intelligence matters when there is no clear cut physical edge between two players. jason smith seems to have the right attitude and more upside than any of the other LT prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Well, based on the new article from the official site, Marvin will have us all believing that offense will be the pick in the first without much thought."We have more apparent needs offensively, whether it be at tackle, center, running back, and obviously with T.J. in his situation."Marvin isn't usually so direct in his words, but it's hard to try to hide your intentions when you have such glaring needs on one side of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Something noone I have seen talk about is Vernon Carey.No reason to worry about him anymore. Just signed a new 6 year, 42 million deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Something noone I have seen talk about is Vernon Carey.No reason to worry about him anymore. Just signed a new 6 year, 42 million deal...Well here is to hoping I don't see a similar story involving Brown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Something noone I have seen talk about is Vernon Carey.No reason to worry about him anymore. Just signed a new 6 year, 42 million deal...Well here is to hoping I don't see a similar story involving Brown!It's scary as hell looking at these deals some of these guys are getting right now, especially the CB in Oakland. Top 5 QB money in year 3 and he's a defensive back? Wow. I hope that Mike is planning on opening the check book wide in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 I hope that Mike is planning on opening the check book wide in 2 weeks. Three weeks is more likely. They always give the market a couple of days to settle down before putting their toes in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I hope that Mike is planning on opening the check book wide in 2 weeks. Three weeks is more likely. They always give the market a couple of days to settle down before putting their toes in the water.Three weeks and prepare for the Brad Meester signing announcement, where Hobson will proclaim him the best C he's ever seen and that injuries are the only thing that stopped him from making the Pro Bowl in his career. I'm sick and tired of the tean signing non-difference makers and over-the-hill guys after all of the impact players are gone. Pull the trigger this year, Mike. It's funny that the Cincinnati Bengals are one of the few teams that have never had issues with the salary cap and that's because we never sign any free agents (our own or other teams') that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well, based on the new article from the official site, Marvin will have us all believing that offense will be the pick in the first without much thought."We have more apparent needs offensively, whether it be at tackle, center, running back, and obviously with T.J. in his situation."Marvin isn't usually so direct in his words, but it's hard to try to hide your intentions when you have such glaring needs on one side of the ball.That's an usual departure from the normally cryptic Marvin-speak. It makes me suspicious that it could be spy vs spy type draft deception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well, based on the new article from the official site, Marvin will have us all believing that offense will be the pick in the first without much thought."We have more apparent needs offensively, whether it be at tackle, center, running back, and obviously with T.J. in his situation."Marvin isn't usually so direct in his words, but it's hard to try to hide your intentions when you have such glaring needs on one side of the ball.That's an usual departure from the normally cryptic Marvin-speak. It makes me suspicious that it could be spy vs spy type draft deception.Gotta think he thinking about free agency, too, with them certain to be negotiating with players at every position that he mentioned. I find it interesting that T.J. was just vacationing with Carson in Vegas and has been working with Carson and Henry this offseason, while having lunch today at the Senior Bowl with Marvin (also note that Chad said that T.J. will be back on NFL Network). Are the Bengals serious about bringing him back....or at least making a real offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Honestly, TJ's issue isn't with Carson or even Marvin for that matter. His issue is with the front office people dealing with his agent. TJ feels he's worth more than most others believe he is (I'm included in that)... I think the Bengals will at least make an effort, but I don't honestly believe for ANY reason that TJ actually wants to come back to the Bengals. He thinks he a number 1 WR who deserves money along those lines. I say he's not who doesn't, but that's just me.That beside, I really hope they go after some help for the o-line and free up the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 With the new article from Marvin, it would appear that the team is ready to move on without Levi. That move would all but SOLIDIFY the #6 pick being an OT. I think we were about 80% that would be the pick, but without Levi, you might as well call it 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 With the new article from Marvin, it would appear that the team is ready to move on without Levi. That move would all but SOLIDIFY the #6 pick being an OT. I think we were about 80% that would be the pick, but without Levi, you might as well call it 100%.I couldn't find any info on his contract, but does anyone know exactly why now? Did he have a roster bonus due between now and the draft, or did they just decide they didn't want him at all?If it wouldn't have cost them anything I might have held onto him just so as not to make them look desperate for a lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 With the new article from Marvin, it would appear that the team is ready to move on without Levi. That move would all but SOLIDIFY the #6 pick being an OT. I think we were about 80% that would be the pick, but without Levi, you might as well call it 100%.I couldn't find any info on his contract, but does anyone know exactly why now? Did he have a roster bonus due between now and the draft, or did they just decide they didn't want him at all?If it wouldn't have cost them anything I might have held onto him just so as not to make them look desperate for a lineman.With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 With the new article from Marvin, it would appear that the team is ready to move on without Levi. That move would all but SOLIDIFY the #6 pick being an OT. I think we were about 80% that would be the pick, but without Levi, you might as well call it 100%.I couldn't find any info on his contract, but does anyone know exactly why now? Did he have a roster bonus due between now and the draft, or did they just decide they didn't want him at all?If it wouldn't have cost them anything I might have held onto him just so as not to make them look desperate for a lineman.With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so...Desperate doesn't fully cover how bad this team needs good linemen. On BOTH sides of the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so...Fully agree, but this is like a back page ad in the NYT saying "WE'RE TAKING AN OT AT 6!"In the end it probably doesn't matter, I was just sort of wondering why now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so...Fully agree, but this is like a back page ad in the NYT saying "WE'RE TAKING AN OT AT 6!"In the end it probably doesn't matter, I was just sort of wondering why now?Maybe they want Cleveland to trade down so they can pick up Aaron Curry, IMO if he is their at six our pick will take about five seconds to go to the podium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so...Fully agree, but this is like a back page ad in the NYT saying "WE'RE TAKING AN OT AT 6!"In the end it probably doesn't matter, I was just sort of wondering why now?Maybe they want Cleveland to trade down so they can pick up Aaron Curry, IMO if he is their at six our pick will take about five seconds to go to the podium!If Curry is there at #6, I would not think twice about the pick and just smile. The o-line would get addressed in the 2nd and more than likely the 3rd with OT and Center, but I would still be more than ok with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clackwoods Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so...Fully agree, but this is like a back page ad in the NYT saying "WE'RE TAKING AN OT AT 6!"In the end it probably doesn't matter, I was just sort of wondering why now?Maybe they want Cleveland to trade down so they can pick up Aaron Curry, IMO if he is their at six our pick will take about five seconds to go to the podium!If Curry is there at #6, I would not think twice about the pick and just smile. The o-line would get addressed in the 2nd and more than likely the 3rd with OT and Center, but I would still be more than ok with that...With him, Keith, Leon and Sims we would have a very nice foundation for the future. We could have a top ten defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 With or without Levi, this team IS desperate for a lineman, if not two or so...Fully agree, but this is like a back page ad in the NYT saying "WE'RE TAKING AN OT AT 6!"In the end it probably doesn't matter, I was just sort of wondering why now?Maybe they want Cleveland to trade down so they can pick up Aaron Curry, IMO if he is their at six our pick will take about five seconds to go to the podium!If Curry is there at #6, I would not think twice about the pick and just smile. The o-line would get addressed in the 2nd and more than likely the 3rd with OT and Center, but I would still be more than ok with that...With him, Keith, Leon and Sims we would have a very nice foundation for the future. We could have a top ten defense!Indeed ,I would be okay with above average Oline if we could get top defense in the league... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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