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The guy is a workout fanatic who refers to himself as "Beast", mainly from his lengendary workouts in the weight room. He has had some durability issues, as Mamula did. He also had a great senior season, before 2 average seasons, as Mamula did. He most likely will go to the Combine and wow every scout in attendance before he disappoints on Sundays, as Mamula did. I just hope he doesn't do it in Cincinnati.

If you don't like the Mamula comparison (or don't remember him), think Vernon Gholston.

Anyone that "refers" to themself by a nickname is a clown... I can refer to myself as "Mister Longcock" but, well, you get my point...

And for Gholston, most are in the line of thought that he was drafted WAAAAY to early at this point...

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The guy is a workout fanatic who refers to himself as "Beast", mainly from his lengendary workouts in the weight room. He has had some durability issues, as Mamula did. He also had a great senior season, before 2 average seasons, as Mamula did. He most likely will go to the Combine and wow every scout in attendance before he disappoints on Sundays, as Mamula did. I just hope he doesn't do it in Cincinnati.

If you don't like the Mamula comparison (or don't remember him), think Vernon Gholston.

Anyone that "refers" to themself by a nickname is a clown... I can refer to myself as "Mister Longcock" but, well, you get my point...

And for Gholston, most are in the line of thought that he was drafted WAAAAY to early at this point...

Ghoston was drafted primarily on the merit of his day at the combine. Orakpo is a top 10 selection prior to the combine based on his play on the field in actual football games. The fact that he will also woo scouts with his individual workout might cause his stock to rise enough to prevent the Bengals from even having a chance at him. Time will tell... but he's not Ghoston, as he won't be asked to be a tweener, and he has an already stellar reputation as a pure DE.

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The guy is a workout fanatic who refers to himself as "Beast", mainly from his lengendary workouts in the weight room. He has had some durability issues, as Mamula did. He also had a great senior season, before 2 average seasons, as Mamula did. He most likely will go to the Combine and wow every scout in attendance before he disappoints on Sundays, as Mamula did. I just hope he doesn't do it in Cincinnati.

If you don't like the Mamula comparison (or don't remember him), think Vernon Gholston.

Anyone that "refers" to themself by a nickname is a clown... I can refer to myself as "Mister Longcock" but, well, you get my point...

And for Gholston, most are in the line of thought that he was drafted WAAAAY to early at this point...

Ghoston was drafted primarily on the merit of his day at the combine. Orakpo is a top 10 selection prior to the combine based on his play on the field in actual football games. The fact that he will also woo scouts with his individual workout might cause his stock to rise enough to prevent the Bengals from even having a chance at him. Time will tell... but he's not Ghoston, as he won't be asked to be a tweener, and he has an already stellar reputation as a pure DE.

Wasn't referring to Orakpo there, but get what you are saying.

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Harhar Orakpo is fairing about aswell as Mauluga on the draft forums...

Jist Orakpo Nooooooooooo,Oher Oher Oher we want Oher. eh.

I agree with you about being paid starters $ doesn't mean they have to start,but that is the way MBrown thinks so thats why I don't think they will draft DE...

But you'd be willing to let peko ride the bench when he has same contract as the ends? No matter what position we take at the end of the day it's going to cost mike brown the same amount of money hence why I think the amount of money in one position will be a non factor,Look at last year We was willing to pay geathers 4.5million ish and Justin 9million for one year of service...

Why would DPeko have to ride the bench?, if they pick a DT @ #6 they most certainly would start over PSims or who ever the other DT is...
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The guy is a workout fanatic who refers to himself as "Beast", mainly from his lengendary workouts in the weight room. He has had some durability issues, as Mamula did. He also had a great senior season, before 2 average seasons, as Mamula did. He most likely will go to the Combine and wow every scout in attendance before he disappoints on Sundays, as Mamula did. I just hope he doesn't do it in Cincinnati.

If you don't like the Mamula comparison (or don't remember him), think Vernon Gholston.

Anyone that "refers" to themself by a nickname is a clown... I can refer to myself as "Mister Longcock" but, well, you get my point...

And for Gholston, most are in the line of thought that he was drafted WAAAAY to early at this point...

Ghoston was drafted primarily on the merit of his day at the combine. Orakpo is a top 10 selection prior to the combine based on his play on the field in actual football games. The fact that he will also woo scouts with his individual workout might cause his stock to rise enough to prevent the Bengals from even having a chance at him. Time will tell... but he's not Ghoston, as he won't be asked to be a tweener, and he has an already stellar reputation as a pure DE.

Wasn't referring to Orakpo there, but get what you are saying.

I really do hope Orakpo's stock shoots up when he breaks the combine record for bench press. I would LOVE to see Cleveland take him so we can take Curry at 6. If not I want Raji.

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'Why would DPeko have to ride the bench?, if they pick a DT @ #6 they most certainly would start over PSims or who ever the other DT is...

So you wanna bench Psims who was showing he can clog up the middle who was our best Dlinemen at the end of last year

So you wanna bench Psims who was showing he can clog up the middle and who was the best Dlinemen on our team at the end of the season...Peko is more of UT then shirly or sims is why I would think he would ride the bench and come in on passing downs if we did take raji...but I see us taking Raji about as much as I could see us taking Mark Sanchez or the top rated CB....

I really do hope Orakpo's stock shoots up when he breaks the combine record for bench press. I would LOVE to see Cleveland take him so we can take Curry at 6. If not I want Raji.

Don't think Curry makes it to cleveland myself...But do you really wanna burn 6th on a DT who is only being talked about top 10 because of senior bowl practices which tend to favor defensive players?

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'Why would DPeko have to ride the bench?, if they pick a DT @ #6 they most certainly would start over PSims or who ever the other DT is...

So you wanna bench Psims who was showing he can clog up the middle who was our best Dlinemen at the end of last year

So you wanna bench Psims who was showing he can clog up the middle and who was the best Dlinemen on our team at the end of the season...Peko is more of UT then shirly or sims is why I would think he would ride the bench and come in on passing downs if we did take raji...but I see us taking Raji about as much as I could see us taking Mark Sanchez or the top rated CB....

I really do hope Orakpo's stock shoots up when he breaks the combine record for bench press. I would LOVE to see Cleveland take him so we can take Curry at 6. If not I want Raji.

Don't think Curry makes it to cleveland myself...But do you really wanna burn 6th on a DT who is only being talked about top 10 because of senior bowl practices which tend to favor defensive players?

Maybe you are right, Kazkal maybe DPeko would have to come of the bench if they went DT, when PSims started they did stuff the run alot better...
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Sims was all they thought he was going to be and then some and I think he's going to be big for us this coming season with another year in the system and Zimmer continuing to light fires. Once again, if the organization really feels the way they were talking about Shirley, forget Raji. Heck, with all the other greater needs, forget him all around. This coming from a guy who would love to have Raji in the mix.

I was in the line of thought that the Browns would go with Jenkins at #5, but saw where the Lions just cut Bodden, so a reunion with the Browns is possible , freeing them up. Curry becomes less a possibility for us each day...

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Mamula had a decent NFL career that was cut short by injuries. He Played from 1995-2000 and racked up 31.5 sacks (which by my math is a little over 6 sacks a season) which, while not world burning, is certainly not Ryan Leaf, Robert Gallery, Tony Mandarich, Brian Bosworth type bad. He doesn't deserve the rap he gets as the penultimate "workout warrior".

The Comparisons from Mamula to Orakpo are valid but there is every reason to expect that barring the injuries (which could happen to anyone see...Pollack, David) Mamula would have been a pro bowl player. The comparisons to Wilson are unfounded because Wilson was A: Playing with Peter Boulware in college which artifically inflated his statistics and B: was dumb as a box of hammers. Since Orakpo made his number despite being the premier guy on the Texas defense and by all accounts is pretty smart it is not a valid comparison. Could Orakpo be Mike Mamula....yes they are VERY similar players and yes they both have injury concerns coming out of college but the Bengals made an early risk pick in 1980 with a little known left tackle who had been injured most of his college career, a guy named Anthony Munoz, and that turned out ok.

From Wikipedia "Muñoz was selected with the third overall pick in the 1980 National Football League draft by the Cincinnati Bengals. His selection was viewed as a major risk by many pundits since knee problems limited the 6'-6", 280-pound Muñoz to just a combined eight games in his junior and senior seasons. "

Mamula had 13 sacks his reshirt junior year and would have been a high draft selection even without his stellar combine workout. If he had returned his senior season and not gotten injured he might have been selected top three. Hopefully injury evaluations have improved since 1994 (insert Bengals medical staff jokes here...). If teams deem Orakpo doesn't have any significant injuries that might hamper his long term durability then he is worth a top 6 pick. Orakpo plays with speed, strength and quickness he has multiple moves, can swim, bull rush (even players that significantly outweigh him see his performance vs. Loadholt this year), and can get around the outside to make plays, in that respect he his much better than a Justin Smith who could only bullrush, Orakpo is a much better athlete.

This all being said I will still be "shocked" if the Bengals don't select Rey Maualuga at #6

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