HoosierCat Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 ...Baylor OT Jason Smith.http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3850847 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Yep, I saw that as well. I still think Monroe should be the pick, but he dinged him for durability issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wasn't he mayocks highest rated olinemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wasn't he mayocks highest rated olinemen Yeah, Jason Smith is currently Mayoch's top rated OT but he's admitted he hasn't seen enough of the kid from Alabama to finalize his rankings until after the combines. Furthermore, Michael Oher is currently ranked 4th amongst the OT's by Mayoch, who suggested Oher could still slip further, behind Britton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat1975 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I would be ok with this pick.Depends who drops to us really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wasn't he mayocks highest rated olinemen Yeah, Jason Smith is currently Mayoch's top rated OT but he's admitted he hasn't seen enough of the kid from Alabama to finalize his rankings until after the combines. Furthermore, Michael Oher is currently ranked 4th amongst the OT's by Mayoch, who suggested Oher could still slip further, behind Britton.Awesome. Hopefully he drops like a rock. Let's take, oh, Orapko at 6 and Oher in the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wasn't he mayocks highest rated olinemen Yeah, Jason Smith is currently Mayoch's top rated OT but he's admitted he hasn't seen enough of the kid from Alabama to finalize his rankings until after the combines. Furthermore, Michael Oher is currently ranked 4th amongst the OT's by Mayoch, who suggested Oher could still slip further, behind Britton.Awesome. Hopefully he drops like a rock. Let's take, oh, Orapko at 6 and Oher in the second.With 8 tackles being taken in less years draft, I doubt even if he's 6th rated he'll make it to us in 2nd...but who knows maybe get 1st for chad hehehe......William Beatty Doesn't seem like he would be bad choice in the 2nd for pass protecting tackle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Give me Rey Maualuga at 6. I am sure all of you who watched the Senior Bowl practices would understand. The man is a beast on the field, but a very soft-spoken man off...kind of reminds me of another player...I think he plays for the Steelers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 With 8 tackles being taken in less years draft, I doubt even if he's 6th rated he'll make it to us in 2nd...but who knows maybe get 1st for chad hehehe......William Beatty Doesn't seem like he would be bad choice in the 2nd for pass protecting tackle...I doubt Oher falls that far either, but I'm on record as being willing to wait until round 2 to address the o-line in any event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 With 8 tackles being taken in less years draft, I doubt even if he's 6th rated he'll make it to us in 2nd...but who knows maybe get 1st for chad hehehe......William Beatty Doesn't seem like he would be bad choice in the 2nd for pass protecting tackle...I doubt Oher falls that far either, but I'm on record as being willing to wait until round 2 to address the o-line in any event.Indeed and with how Hobsons been talking about it Seems like chance @ tackle in first but I would say seems more likely for us not too...Talk about Whitworth being able play Left or Right,Fact that Collins has upside and it doesn't sound like it's very likely levi will be cut since 5million dollar cap hit ....Few quotes from the article.But he's always considered himself a tackle and he just may get the chance in two of the options.Whitworth could move over to right tackle. If the Bengals decide to go defense in the first round and not select a left tackle and they decide to part ways with Levi Jones, they could move Anthony Collins from left tackle to right tackle, where he played some in college.He is thankful he's got the versatile Whitworth because it gives the team some flexibility at the top of the draft.Like Whitworth (high ankle sprain), Jones missed the last six games of the season but cutting him could be even more hurtful. With no salary cap in 2010, teams must absorb all prorated bonuses into the '09 cap, which means Jones would count about $5 million by the time his $8.4 million proration is subtracted from his $3.5 million salary.Even though the 6-7, 340-pound Whitworth played 52 games at left tackle for LSU, he has always heard the whispers he can't stand up to the speed rushers. He vehemently disagrees."I go back to my rookie year when we were 8-5 and if we win one of the last three games we're in the playoffs," said Whitworth of the '06 season he replaced the injured Jones early. "What? I played (10) games at left tackle and gave up four sacks? Figuring it was my rookie year, I thought that was a pretty solid season in the NFL. Especially in our offense where we're dropping back to pass at all times. I have confidence to be able to play this game. I don't care where I am, as long as we can win and I can be a leader."First, he has to find out where the club wants him to line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 We should wait until round 2, unless Andre Smith falls to us. This class is so deep, I think we can afford to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icehole3 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I would take Jason Smith no problem, if Curry falls down I grab him and get the OL in the second, in no particular order the first 3 picks IMO should go OL, pass rusher and then OL, it could change depending on if Mikey grabs a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAPPYJAQ Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Jason Smith looks extremely quick and athletic, even moreso than Andre Smith and Monroe and a lot like Levi Jones looked coming out of ASU. I would be happy with the pick, as he should become an immediate starter at LT. Put him next to the emerging Whitworth with Collins at RT, his college position, and the line is set for the next 8-10 years. I'm still hoping the Bengals sign either Jason Brown or Richie Incognito to play C, who are two young veteran players who are proven run blockers with upside. Ghiachic would be a fine backup C-G.Round 2 should go to the best pash rusher available. I'm really starting to like Barwin, who Marvin is already calling "three-way" as a nickel pash-rusher/backup TE/special teams player. The Bengals must stop letting quality UC players make it to other teams. Larry English might be a good pick there, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Jason Smith looks extremely quick and athletic, even moreso than Andre Smith and Monroe and a lot like Levi Jones looked coming out of ASU. I would be happy with the pick, as he should become an immediate starter at LT. Put him next to the emerging Whitworth with Collins at RT, his college position, and the line is set for the next 8-10 years. I'm still hoping the Bengals sign either Jason Brown or Richie Incognito to play C, who are two young veteran players who are proven run blockers with upside. Ghiachic would be a fine backup C-G.Round 2 should go to the best pash rusher available. I'm really starting to like Barwin, who Marvin is already calling "three-way" as a nickel pash-rusher/backup TE/special teams player. The Bengals must stop letting quality UC players make it to other teams. Larry English might be a good pick there, too.Starting to like Barwin? Holy Lord! The Bengals will have to trade up into the late first round to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Awesome. Hopefully he drops like a rock. Let's take, oh, Orapko at 6 and Oher in the second. Screw 'dat. I'm going defense in the 2nd round too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Awesome. Hopefully he drops like a rock. Let's take, oh, Orapko at 6 and Oher in the second. Screw 'dat. I'm going defense in the 2nd round too. \wouldn't complain now no Oline in 3rd my hear a whimper out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well now no O-line until the third round? Just how deep is this OT class. Is it comparable to the RBs last year? If so, say we get a C in FA. Would there be a talented OT available in the 3rd who probably won't be immediate starter material but given a yr learning the system and plays and improving technique behind Levi and Whitworth could be plugged in the yr after? Not to mention Collins will be a second yr player and should be first choice on the depth chart so no pressure on him right away.If if we get that C in FA and this OT class is as deep as some say, then Rey in the first and a pass rusher in the second would be fine by me.This is dependant on how you view Paul Alexander as a coach I guess. I don't have an opinion about him either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If so, say we get a C in FA.Agreed. We need a center above all else. To me it was the most glaring deficiency on the team. That doesn't mean we pick one in the first, or that we pick one before a tackle. But we should do something other than wait until the fourth round, then expect that project to jump in and play. Trampled-Check was a fourth rounder, wasn't he? So I agree, go FA or 2nd round on a center. I fear if we wait until the 3rd we'll be back where we were this year, facing stunt and blitz packages that were coming right at the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well now no O-line until the third round? Just how deep is this OT class. Ehhh, I was joking. (Probably) That said, the facts are what they always are. The less demanding ORT position is a far greater need for the Bengals than OLT, and OC simply isn't a position that typically demands 1st or 2nd round attention. Plus, even in those rare examples where OC's are drafted early there first has to be a perfect fit of type wanted and prospect available. And on that front, which of this years center prospects stands out as a powerful mauler? Or if you prefer, who is the anti-Ghiachuic? I'm not seeing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Wasn't he mayocks highest rated olinemen Yeah, Jason Smith is currently Mayoch's top rated OT but he's admitted he hasn't seen enough of the kid from Alabama to finalize his rankings until after the combines. Furthermore, Michael Oher is currently ranked 4th amongst the OT's by Mayoch, who suggested Oher could still slip further, behind Britton.Awesome. Hopefully he drops like a rock. Let's take, oh, Orapko at 6 and Oher in the second.Sounds good. I'm really looking forward to Alexander 'coaching them up'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well now no O-line until the third round? Just how deep is this OT class. Ehhh, I was joking. (Probably) That said, the facts are what they always are. The less demanding ORT position is a far greater need for the Bengals than OLT, and OC simply isn't a position that typically demands 1st or 2nd round attention. Plus, even in those rare examples where OC's are drafted early there first has to be a perfect fit of type wanted and prospect available. And on that front, which of this years center prospects stands out as a powerful mauler? Or if you prefer, who is the anti-Ghiachuic? I'm not seeing one.Ah I gotcha. What you say is true. Levi is staying for at least this yr so that gives us time. There should be no panic in picking an OT as it isn't necessary for him to be the perfect starting LT from day 1. I also like Whitworth at guard or RT. Then we have Collins who seems promising and will help with depth. My hope is that we get a C in FA. Then we can go with BPA in round one at least and then look at our options after that.We need a pass rusher and someone to go along with Rivers at LB in addition to looking to strengthening our O-line in general.Who knows what happens but I was a little disappointed when we missed out on Ellis by not trading up. However, I'm happier with Rivers and Sims. Hopefully we end up with something like Orapko or Rey Malwotsit and a nice OT in round 2 rather than just Monroe or Smith and having to pick a project at DE later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If so, say we get a C in FA.Agreed. We need a center above all else. To me it was the most glaring deficiency on the team. That doesn't mean we pick one in the first, or that we pick one before a tackle. But we should do something other than wait until the fourth round, then expect that project to jump in and play. Trampled-Check was a fourth rounder, wasn't he? So I agree, go FA or 2nd round on a center. I fear if we wait until the 3rd we'll be back where we were this year, facing stunt and blitz packages that were coming right at the center.Howe bad must Santucci be? I mean, Put one of us in one of those inflatable sumo suits and we could probably give Guichac a run for his money.What comp picks do we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'm definitely interested in seeing more of Raji. He was a first rounder coming into the week but has gone from mid- to late-round to top-15/potential top-10 status. I know it's hype but I can't help but hear camp DT calling me back again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Mel Kiper is a DOUCHE ................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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