What if Henry had went to the Cowgirls?

[Dadraftnick]

Since Jerry Jones picked up Pac-man Jones, gone are the stories of what a punk he is,he isnt even called Pac-man anymore now he is Adam Jones.

Since he became a Cowgirl the media loves him, only stories of how he is now on the right track.

There was alot of stories out there that Jones was going to pick up Henry.

I would submit that ,if Jones had picked up Henry, Goodel would have to reconsider his suspension of 4 games for something he was cleared of.

The media would be asking everybody in Monday Night Football what they thought about Henry taking the Cowboys over the top ,the way they did last week with Aaron Rodgers.

They would be running stories about how Henry was now in the right place to get help the way they do with Pac-man Jones.

Is Henry an idiot ,yes has he been arrested for some stupid things,yes.

If you look at what he has been arrested for most were minor things,even though there was alot of them.

All of them put togather are nothing compaired to Pac-man Jones or what Randy Moss has done.

Moss has just spread his out a little more.

I live near Hungitnton Wv (Marshall) which is where Moss played NCAA ball --alot of his antics were covered up or never covered by the national media.

Its not just how you screw up or or how often its also who you play for when you do.

I am not making excuses for Henry. I just wonder how the story would have been played out if Jones would have sighned Henry or why the media never looks at Moss all they do is rave about him and talk about him going to the Hall of Fame.

[cincyhokie]

I agree with you completely. The media can make the story slant the way they want it to. Also, the Cowboys are a prototype NFL team with a strong history. People want to love them.

As far as Godell goes, yeah I could see him changing the suspension up for the Cowboys. The Bengals don't really matter as they are the whipping boys used as an example by the league time after time.

I hope this signing works out for the best. I think it was dumb as hell, but I hope it works out and everyone outside Cincinnati can eat s**t all season.

[HoosierCat]

They would be running stories about how Henry was now in the right place to get help the way they do with Pac-man Jones.

And I'm not at all sure they wouldn't be right.

The trouble with Henry being in Cincinnati is that the Bengals have not been a strong organization with an established, self-policing locker room.

That's why the Pats can bring in a Moss or a Dillon and not have problems.

Once you have a team, you can add some bad boys. Mike Brown's mistake has been trying to build a team out of bad boys.

[Dadraftnick]

They would be running stories about how Henry was now in the right place to get help the way they do with Pac-man Jones.

And I'm not at all sure they wouldn't be right.

The trouble with Henry being in Cincinnati is that the Bengals have not been a strong organization with an established, self-policing locker room.

That's why the Pats can bring in a Moss or a Dillon and not have problems.

Once you have a team, you can add some bad boys. Mike Brown's mistake has been trying to build a team out of bad boys.

I doubt that anybody has done as much to help a player as Marvin has with Henry.

I have a friend that lives in Cincy so we would often go up to Cincy and party and he would tell me stories about the Cincinnati Police were not to be messed with, they took no bull.

That plays a big part in how many players form Cincinnati get arrested, they do not play fovorites,especially since one of them got in trouble for looking the other way for Jeff Blake.

In a city like Dallas,NYC,Denver ect. the police are a little more inclined to let things slide when it comes to hometown sport stars.

I know that Henry was arrested in out of town on of some of his arrest but ,he was still not a local sports star in the city that he was arrested.

Henry has a problem with self-control ,which is why I didnt want the Bengals to draft him,I thought he would end up with tons of personal fouls the way he did at WVU -- I noticed what I would call depression like symptoms at training camp out of him.

I think he needs to be on anti-drepressants --I think he medicates himself with booze ect. to compensate and will never be right till he gets some help -but, you cant force it on him.

[agreen_112]

Since Jerry Jones picked up Pac-man Jones, gone are the stories of what a punk he is,he isnt even called Pac-man anymore now he is Adam Jones.

Since he became a Cowgirl the media loves him, only stories of how he is now on the right track.

There was alot of stories out there that Jones was going to pick up Henry.

I would submit that ,if Jones had picked up Henry, Goodel would have to reconsider his suspension of 4 games for something he was cleared of.

The media would be asking everybody in Monday Night Football what they thought about Henry taking the Cowboys over the top ,the way they did last week with Aaron Rodgers.

They would be running stories about how Henry was now in the right place to get help the way they do with Pac-man Jones.

Is Henry an idiot ,yes has he been arrested for some stupid things,yes.

If you look at what he has been arrested for most were minor things,even though there was alot of them.

All of them put togather are nothing compaired to Pac-man Jones or what Randy Moss has done.

Moss has just spread his out a little more.

I live near Hungitnton Wv (Marshall) which is where Moss played NCAA ball --alot of his antics were covered up or never covered by the national media.

Its not just how you screw up or or how often its also who you play for when you do.

I am not making excuses for Henry. I just wonder how the story would have been played out if Jones would have sighned Henry or why the media never looks at Moss all they do is rave about him and talk about him going to the Hall of Fame.

Because at the end of the day, Its FOOTBALL. Play good and all will be forgoten. That's just the way it is. Kudos to the Cowboys and their media relations. Kudos to Randy Moss and any other player who goes out there and does his thing on the field... If the idiot shoots someone, he'll be replaced by the next superstar. Life goes on, he'll eventually be forgoten.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Talk about exaggeration - yeah Goodell is the reason now for allll of the Bengals' troubles and would even lift Henry's suspension if he went to Dallas!

Uh huh.

The Bengals' have PROVEN that they can't handle troubled players well like Dallas has - who won multiple SB's with them.

Winning cures a lot of ills - if not all. The Bengals' don't win.

But I'm sure that's because of a "curse" or "bad luck" or "Goodell hating on the Bengals along with the media."

Surely it has nothing to do with poor personnel management, no GM, poor coaching, the league's worst owner, the fewest scouts in the league, etc...., Those couldn't possibly be the reasons the Bengals suck so much.

[Ickey44]

Talk about exaggeration - yeah Goodell is the reason now for allll of the Bengals' troubles and would even lift Henry's suspension if he went to Dallas!

Uh huh.

The Bengals' have PROVEN that they can't handle troubled players well like Dallas has - who won multiple SB's with them.

Winning cures a lot of ills - if not all. The Bengals' don't win.

But I'm sure that's because of a "curse" or "bad luck" or "Goodell hating on the Bengals along with the media."

Surely it has nothing to do with poor personnel management, no GM, poor coaching, the league's worst owner, the fewest scouts in the league, etc...., Those couldn't possibly be the reasons the Bengals suck so much.

I don't know about the league's worst owner, don't you think Bidwell of the Cardinals has him beat on that?

[Dadraftnick]

Talk about exaggeration - yeah Goodell is the reason now for allll of the Bengals' troubles and would even lift Henry's suspension if he went to Dallas!

Uh huh.

The Bengals' have PROVEN that they can't handle troubled players well like Dallas has - who won multiple SB's with them.

Winning cures a lot of ills - if not all. The Bengals' don't win.

But I'm sure that's because of a "curse" or "bad luck" or "Goodell hating on the Bengals along with the media."

Surely it has nothing to do with poor personnel management, no GM, poor coaching, the league's worst owner, the fewest scouts in the league, etc...., Those couldn't possibly be the reasons the Bengals suck so much.

First of all, I didnt see anyone blame Goodell on the Begals "bad luck" or "curse".

There were many published reports that said that Jerry Jones was considering picking up Chris Henry ,the reports also said that he was considering picking up Pac-man Jones which he did.

What was being pointed out was the difference in the way the media plays a story when something goes on at one of the "golden teams" and the difference in treatmen of their players vs. the way they treat a story about a Begnals player.

You put me in a bad situation of taking up for Chris Henry,someone that I didnt want the Bengals to draft and said that he would be a head case.

Does Mike Brown suck? Yesssss! But, its not an excuse for the Bengals and SOME of the other small market teams and/or their players to get shafted.

Its not an exucse for Goodell to play fororites.

Its not an excuse for the media to treat the Begals and some other small market teams and/or their player like trash.

Its not an excuse for Ray Lewis to at the very least be involved in a murder and nothing happens to him -at all period!

Its not an excuse for the media to play it like it never happened and never mention it and to instead act like Lewis is the greatest to ever play the game.

Its not an excuse for Randy Moss to paralyze a kid and promise him that he will "take care of him" and then squirm out of through some leagal wrangling-- only to have the media not to even mention it .

Its not an excuse for Goodell to let the Patriots cheat for over a 10 yr period and only a small fine gets paid by their billionaire owner and they lost a 1st rnd pick when they had 2.

When you look at the things Henry has been arrested for most were minor and stupid things and the most serious case against him ,giving booze to minors, he was set up by a girl later charged with murder.

All of Henry's cases wouldnt raise to the Ray Lewis case-- and the media's excuse for not bringing up the Murder charges is that charges were dropped when Lewis agreed to testify against them--- which I saw in court TV and he should been given an oscar for and Ray pulled a Sgt. Schults and "saw nothing"

But , wait Henry's charges were dropped too. Werent they ?

[Ickey44]

Talk about exaggeration - yeah Goodell is the reason now for allll of the Bengals' troubles and would even lift Henry's suspension if he went to Dallas!

Uh huh.

The Bengals' have PROVEN that they can't handle troubled players well like Dallas has - who won multiple SB's with them.

Winning cures a lot of ills - if not all. The Bengals' don't win.

But I'm sure that's because of a "curse" or "bad luck" or "Goodell hating on the Bengals along with the media."

Surely it has nothing to do with poor personnel management, no GM, poor coaching, the league's worst owner, the fewest scouts in the league, etc...., Those couldn't possibly be the reasons the Bengals suck so much.

First of all, I didnt see anyone blame Goodell on the Begals "bad luck" or "curse".

There were many published reports that said that Jerry Jones was considering picking up Chris Henry ,the reports also said that he was considering picking up Pac-man Jones which he did.

What was being pointed out was the difference in the way the media plays a story when something goes on at one of the "golden teams" and the difference in treatmen of their players vs. the way they treat a story about a Begnals player.

You put me in a bad situation of taking up for Chris Henry,someone that I didnt want the Bengals to draft and said that he would be a head case.

Does Mike Brown suck? Yesssss! But, its not an excuse for the Bengals and SOME of the other small market teams and/or their players to get shafted.

Its not an exucse for Goodell to play fororites.

Its not an excuse for the media to treat the Begals and some other small market teams and/or their player like trash.

Its not an excuse for Ray Lewis to at the very least be involved in a murder and nothing happens to him -at all period!

Its not an excuse for the media to play it like it never happened and never mention it and to instead act like Lewis is the greatest to ever play the game.

Its not an excuse for Randy Moss to paralyze a kid and promise him that he will "take care of him" and then squirm out of through some leagal wrangling-- only to have the media not to even mention it .

Its not an excuse for Goodell to let the Patriots cheat for over a 10 yr period and only a small fine gets paid by their billionaire owner and they lost a 1st rnd pick when they had 2.

When you look at the things Henry has been arrested for most were minor and stupid things and the most serious case against him ,giving booze to minors, he was set up by a girl later charged with murder.

All of Henry's cases wouldnt raise to the Ray Lewis case-- and the media's excuse for not bringing up the Murder charges is that charges were dropped when Lewis agreed to testify against them--- which I saw in court TV and he should been given an oscar for and Ray pulled a Sgt. Schults and "saw nothing"

But , wait Henry's charges were dropped too. Werent they ?

Dude, are you done whining yet? Fairly or unfairly, the Bengals will be blasted over and over for character based on all the things that happened two years ago. The biggest reason for the criticism right now is the fact the both Marvin and Mike Brown went public last month and declared they would never bring Henry back on the team because they were tired of his off-field antics. Then they (or maybe just Mike) brought him back.

What do you expect people to say when one moment you say you're done with bad character guys, then the next you sign a guy who's been arrest five times already (while he was on your team)?

I'm as die-hard a Bengals fan as there is but I'm not even going to try to defend this signing. Do I hope it turns out for the best? You bet. Do I think they made a huge mistake? Absolutely.

[Dadraftnick]

Talk about exaggeration - yeah Goodell is the reason now for allll of the Bengals' troubles and would even lift Henry's suspension if he went to Dallas!

Uh huh.

The Bengals' have PROVEN that they can't handle troubled players well like Dallas has - who won multiple SB's with them.

Winning cures a lot of ills - if not all. The Bengals' don't win.

But I'm sure that's because of a "curse" or "bad luck" or "Goodell hating on the Bengals along with the media."

Surely it has nothing to do with poor personnel management, no GM, poor coaching, the league's worst owner, the fewest scouts in the league, etc...., Those couldn't possibly be the reasons the Bengals suck so much.

First of all, I didnt see anyone blame Goodell on the Begals "bad luck" or "curse".

There were many published reports that said that Jerry Jones was considering picking up Chris Henry ,the reports also said that he was considering picking up Pac-man Jones which he did.

What was being pointed out was the difference in the way the media plays a story when something goes on at one of the "golden teams" and the difference in treatmen of their players vs. the way they treat a story about a Begnals player.

You put me in a bad situation of taking up for Chris Henry,someone that I didnt want the Bengals to draft and said that he would be a head case.

Does Mike Brown suck? Yesssss! But, its not an excuse for the Bengals and SOME of the other small market teams and/or their players to get shafted.

Its not an exucse for Goodell to play fororites.

Its not an excuse for the media to treat the Begals and some other small market teams and/or their player like trash.

Its not an excuse for Ray Lewis to at the very least be involved in a murder and nothing happens to him -at all period!

Its not an excuse for the media to play it like it never happened and never mention it and to instead act like Lewis is the greatest to ever play the game.

Its not an excuse for Randy Moss to paralyze a kid and promise him that he will "take care of him" and then squirm out of through some leagal wrangling-- only to have the media not to even mention it .

Its not an excuse for Goodell to let the Patriots cheat for over a 10 yr period and only a small fine gets paid by their billionaire owner and they lost a 1st rnd pick when they had 2.

When you look at the things Henry has been arrested for most were minor and stupid things and the most serious case against him ,giving booze to minors, he was set up by a girl later charged with murder.

All of Henry's cases wouldnt raise to the Ray Lewis case-- and the media's excuse for not bringing up the Murder charges is that charges were dropped when Lewis agreed to testify against them--- which I saw in court TV and he should been given an oscar for and Ray pulled a Sgt. Schults and "saw nothing"

But , wait Henry's charges were dropped too. Werent they ?

Dude, are you done whining yet? Fairly or unfairly, the Bengals will be blasted over and over for character based on all the things that happened two years ago. The biggest reason for the criticism right now is the fact the both Marvin and Mike Brown went public last month and declared they would never bring Henry back on the team because they were tired of his off-field antics. Then they (or maybe just Mike) brought him back.

What do you expect people to say when one moment you say you're done with bad character guys, then the next you sign a guy who's been arrest five times already (while he was on your team)?

I'm as die-hard a Bengals fan as there is but I'm not even going to try to defend this signing. Do I hope it turns out for the best? You bet. Do I think they made a huge mistake? Absolutely.

I am not whining.

I am not even saying that re-signing Henry is even a good idea-he will likely get arrested again before he ever gets on the field.

On the other hand what were the Bengals to do with all their injuries? Its not like their hurting their reputation.

I am sick of the double standard -I am sick of what I saw in the Monday night foot ball game two weeks ago.

I am sick of the double standard when it comes the Hall of Fame.

I am even sick of the double standard when it comes to calls out of the reffs-

What I am saying is if Henry had went to the Cowgirls the media,with their double standard ,would now be treating him differently the way they are now treating the Pac-man Jones signing.

I do know that local sports star are treated like gods in cities like Dallas and are more likely to be given a pass than in a place like Cincinnati.

Its always nice to have rich and powerful Billionaire owner like Jerry Jones or Bob Kraft to smoth things over with the police and the media.

Compair coverage of any Chris Henry's arrests vs the coverage of a Patriots O line man being busted for having tons of oxycodone- you hardly heard anything about (and it was a felony)

He wasnt painted with the same brush as Henry.

Hell, Micael Irvin was caught with hookers cocain and a policeman's girlfriend and he got out of it and he wasnt painted as badly as Henry --Oh yeah, and Irvin was later caught with a crack pipe while he was working for espn and said he took it away from a friend!

Where is Irvin ? The Hall of Fame and working from time to time on the NFL network.

There is a double standard for you.

[Kazkal]

Talk about exaggeration - yeah Goodell is the reason now for allll of the Bengals' troubles and would even lift Henry's suspension if he went to Dallas!

Uh huh.

The Bengals' have PROVEN that they can't handle troubled players well like Dallas has - who won multiple SB's with them.

Winning cures a lot of ills - if not all. The Bengals' don't win.

But I'm sure that's because of a "curse" or "bad luck" or "Goodell hating on the Bengals along with the media."

Surely it has nothing to do with poor personnel management, no GM, poor coaching, the league's worst owner, the fewest scouts in the league, etc...., Those couldn't possibly be the reasons the Bengals suck so much.

Why isn't goddell acting harsh towards the Bucs or Jaguars who've had more problem childs then us in the past 3 years.

[Ickey44]

Goodell has it out for us because Mike Brown has obviously pissed in his wheaties. Being one of the two owners that voted against the CBA and being the team of poor character which pretty much gave rise to the new Conduct Policy, that's two reasons why Goodell has it out for us.

I think the real thing you should be bitching about is the players. If they weren't getting in trouble in the first place, Goodell wouldn't have any reason to suspend them, would he? I don't see how you guys bitch all day about Goodell giving out harsh suspensions to our players when they would never have been suspended at all if they'd followed the rules.

As far as the Pacman and Tank Johnson signings for Dallas, I don't recall reading anything positive about those signings when I read about them. In fact, I recall reading that Pacman shouldn't be allowed back in the league period. On the flip side though, the Cowboys are the only franchise not to have a player arrested in the last two years. It's also been reported that Pacman (and Tank, I think) have Cowboys personnel following them around just to keep them out of the trouble they always used to find themselves in.

I've also read many, many stories bashing the Bucs for their continued employment of Jeremy Stevens. So the Bengals aren't the only team that get the bad press for this kind of stuff, you may just not know it.

[Spor_tees]

You know recent events aren't the only famous legal blow ups in Bengal history. In fact the Bengals have had some of the most infamous acts in NFL history. Who can forget the rape case against like 11 Bengals players accused of raping Victoria Kritzer in a hotel room? How about Stanley Wilson's famous coke party the night before the Superbowl? This all comes down to a lack of discipline. I don't think the Bengals have had a great deal of discipline since Forrest Gregg was the coach. If you look back at the years that the Bengals have been successful, it's been because they got all the right bounces or were just loaded to the gills with smart good players. This has become evident simply by the number of them that have went on to become television analyst, reporters, or coaches. This years team is very undisciplined which was very evident by the last preseason game. They simply did not look like a team ready to play. Like I said in another thread, Marvin Lewis is not a good head coach. The 2005 year was simply a fluke where the team won on talent and luck. The ball simply bounced the right way for them on many occasions making them the league leader in turnover percentage which saved their butts in many games.

Year in and year out the Bengals are pegged as underachievers or disappointments. That means everyone knows the type of talent that is on the roster and where they should be instead of where they are. I wish some people would just come out and say what they really mean, and that being that they are poorly coached. What else makes a team "underachieve" year in and year out? Regardless of what some of you might say, if you put together a team full of talent and give them a horrible coach, they are going to win some games, and this is what is happening now...and Marvin is getting the benefit of the doubt because his so called success is getting compared to a team with horrible coaches, that were filled with horrible players. What else did you expect those other teams to do other than lose?

[walzav29]

Here is Henry's wrap sheet

Since being drafted in 2005 by Cincinnati, has been arrested five times for, in order, possession of marijuana, possession of a concealed firearm and aggravated assault with a concealed firearm, DUI, providing alcohol to underage girls in a hotel room, and assault. In addition, police were called but no charges filed when Henry allegedly stiffed a parking lot attendant for payment last November and the two men argued. He has been suspended three times for a total of 15 games in his four-year career.

What is Pac-Mans? He does get looked at like an adorable little dickens in Dallas now. I want to compare arrest sheets.

[HoosierCat]

Nope, GOD-el doesn't play favorites.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Not at all.

[volcom69]

LOL yea not at all LOL

[jjakq27]

Make it rain, beotches.

[HoosierCat]

Nope, no favorites AT ALL...

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/broncos.mars...n.2.805638.html

[volcom69]

Just dont get it i just dont get it.

[Ickey44]

Here is Henry's wrap sheet

Since being drafted in 2005 by Cincinnati, has been arrested five times for, in order, possession of marijuana, possession of a concealed firearm and aggravated assault with a concealed firearm, DUI, providing alcohol to underage girls in a hotel room, and assault. In addition, police were called but no charges filed when Henry allegedly stiffed a parking lot attendant for payment last November and the two men argued. He has been suspended three times for a total of 15 games in his four-year career.

What is Pac-Mans? He does get looked at like an adorable little dickens in Dallas now. I want to compare arrest sheets.

If I recall correctly, Pacman has not been convicted of anything. He's been a person of interest in like 10 or 11 crime cases, but not a suspect. I think he's been arrested once or twice, but the charges dropped.

Not defending, just saying that I think that's the case with Pacman so far.

[Ickey44]

Nope, no favorites AT ALL...

http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/broncos.mars...n.2.805638.html

The commish did reduce Frostee's suspension from 2 to 1 game, but I'm still scratching my head over the whole thing where (I can't remember the guys name) didn't get suspended because his offense occurred while he was in college, but then so did Frostee's. Hmmmm..............