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Marvin Lewis lit into his team after the 34-13 loss Monday night to New England.

"If you don’t want to be on the team, don’t show up at 4 o’clock,” Lewis yelled in a profanity-laced, locker-room tirade toward his Bengals players. He dropped the f-bomb a couple of times.

The Bengals have a 4 p.m. team meeting today.

The Bengals, buried in last place in the AFC North, dropped to 1-3 and lost for the sixth time in the past seven games, dating to the three-game losing streak that ended 2006.

"I’m just as upset, obviously, as I can be,” a subdued Lewis said in his post-game news conference. “Right now, we’re finding a way to play not well enough to win. We’re going to see who we’re going to fight with. If we have to make changes, we’ll make changes."

All I can say is, it's about time Marvin! - B1

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He probably caused more problems than good when he did that. As for the changes I'll believe it when I see it. I have no faith in Marvin Lewis as head coach.

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He probably caused more problems than good when he did that. As for the changes I'll believe it when I see it. I have no faith in Marvin Lewis as head coach.

I'm sure he'll shed a few tears about that tonight.

Anyway, good for Marvin. Hopefully this lights a fire under some people. I much prefer this side of Marvin (when it's needed) over the one we typically see laughing and shrugging things off at his press conferences.

At least some of the rookies feel his comments were justified. Ndukwe was quoted afterwards as saying that they deserved every word Marvin said. If you can't take heat from a coach, then you need to find a new profession.

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Ok, The contributor to CBSsportsline.com is a member of this board but I am not sure who he is. I know this guy lives near Cincinnati but I am not sure if he is actually a fan.

The Bungles are Back!

Just a warning, if you don't like the use of the word Bungles don't read because it is used a couple of times. Interesting point to this article is that he says many of the same things that I and a few others on this board have been complaining about. In fact part of the reason I think he is a member on this board is something that he said:

Poor Bengals. What happened Monday night was sort of pathetic, and somewhat avoidable. This being the Bengals, they don't avoid issues. They create them, then milk them for the maximum self-inflicted damage. Don't be fooled by the Bengals' respectable 36-32 record under Marvin Lewis. The only difference between this team and Dick LeBeau's Bungles is Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh, three offensive players who fell into Marvin Lewis' lap and have spent the last four years trying to overcome Lewis' baby, the Cincinnati defense.

I believe I have read in a thread here someone said basically the same thing. Then another part stuck out:

Cincinnati's ineffective defensive schemes have been exacerbated by Lewis' shortcomings as the team's de facto general manager, including wasted draft picks on known character risks Odell Thurman and A.J. Nicholson. Both knuckleheads are -- were -- linebackers. The Bengals began the season with just seven linebackers, including injured Canadian Football League refugee Rashad Jeanty, and have been battling additional injury problems there ever since.

Entering this game, starting middle linebacker Ahmad Brooks was doubtful and replacement Caleb Miller was out. That left four healthy linebackers for three spots, which became three for three spots when Brooks was inactivated -- but the Bengals made no moves earlier in the week to shore up the position. There isn't a spare linebacker on the practice squad. There aren't even the full allotment of players on the practice squad. Same old cheap Bungles, I'm telling you.

Wow! I am going to have to make a tin foil hat because this guy is stealing all my thoughts. The worst part about this article is that it is all true. Sadly, all true.

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Yeah you wonder if some of the stars on the team will point their fingers right back at him and say "where is OUR help? You can barely field a team and some of your top draft picks are either suspended or kicked off the team, and you replaced a 1st round pick with a Canadian player."

They have every right to as well - same old Bengals' being cheap and not making enough effort to win in the off-season.

But ultimately, did last night really suprise anyone?

Maybe they needed to hit rock bottom and get out of their state of denial - from the front office down to the players.

Glad they have a slew of draft picks next year - but I'm just so tired of waiting.

They can salvage the season with some luck in the injury dept this next week and a half - but they also need to make some changes, ecspecially on the 0-line.

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First of all, just about everybody bet against the Bengals on this game. Even a bunch of Bengal fans. You can also see in in some of the players eyes last night. They knew that they were going to lose. Last week, everyone wanted the DC fired. Now it sounds like we're wanting a new HC. Folks, that won't happen. Not sure if this can happen or not, but I think the HC should be able to take money out of the pockets of players who don't perform! Miss a tackle, fumble a ball, throw an int, fine them. Question, after Chad and Carson had their little fight, did Carson throw to him the rest of the night?

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Agree - no way Marvin gets fired - and - I'm not totally convinced that he should. Ughh...

Three things occurred to me last night:

1) BAD - Absolutely sh*tty realization that - yes - the Bengals are in total dissarray and spiraling downward.

2) Good - I actually felt glad that Marvin went off on the team. At least he's recognizing the fact that we are in deep deep doo doo - there aint no hiding it anymore.

3) Good - we have a bye and then our schedule gets a little easier - time to regroup and start tinkering.

Man, that whole thing was a punch in the gut...

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Here's another quote I found over at Bengals.com: "If you don't want to be on this team, please don't show up!" Lewis said, yelling so loud that reporters outside could hear. "You don't call the offense, you don't call the plays. You just play. "Nowhere in the NFL do guys act like this."

Do you think he was speaking directly at Chad, TJ or Palmer, or maybe all of them?

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"You don't call the offense, you don't call the plays. You just play. "Nowhere in the NFL do guys act like this." --- Marvin Lewis

And there it is. For all of the talk about how poorly the defense plays it's become painfully obvious that the strength of the team isn't mature enough to lead.

Agreed. I'm tired of players coming to the kitties, either via free agency or the draft, and talking about being "quite" leaders. Ones who lead through example and calmness etc...

Screw that! I want a firey leader for a change. One who goes down the line when times are bad and fires up the team to go out there and play their butts off!!

Quite leadership is an oxymoron, at least on this team.... <_<

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Agreed. I'm tired of players coming to the kitties, either via free agency or the draft, and talking about being "quite" leaders. Ones who lead through example and calmness etc...

I don't have a problem with quiet leadership of the type demonstrated by Palmer. In fact, I consider it to be a strength. My problem is with leadership that is loud, selfish, and totally devoid of maturity.

And after reading the above everyone thought of the same name immediately, right?

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Agreed. I'm tired of players coming to the kitties, either via free agency or the draft, and talking about being "quite" leaders. Ones who lead through example and calmness etc...

I don't have a problem with quiet leadership of the type demonstrated by Palmer. In fact, I consider it to be a strength. My problem is with leadership that is loud, selfish, and totally devoid of maturity.

And after reading the above everyone thought of the same name immediately, right?

I would venture to say a team needs a bit of both. Those who lead through example and a few that can fire up their teammates when the need arises.

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Here's another quote I found over at Bengals.com: "If you don't want to be on this team, please don't show up!" Lewis said, yelling so loud that reporters outside could hear. "You don't call the offense, you don't call the plays. You just play. "Nowhere in the NFL do guys act like this."

Do you think he was speaking directly at Chad, TJ or Palmer, or maybe all of them?

I'd go with all -- or at least a good chunk -- of them. Remember all the talk back in 2003 and 2004 about Lewis needing guys to "buy in" to his program? Well, since about halftime of the '05 playoff game, they've been "cashing out." At the first sign of adversity, the team races to the sideline to blame one another. Pressure's on, like the last three games of 2006? They find a way to lose.

That's what Lewis is talking about there. But I suspect a lot of guys have already tuned him out.

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"You don't call the offense, you don't call the plays. You just play. "Nowhere in the NFL do guys act like this." --- Marvin Lewis

And there it is. For all of the talk about how poorly the defense plays it's become painfully obvious that the strength of the team isn't mature enough to lead.

Agreed. I'm tired of players coming to the kitties, either via free agency or the draft, and talking about being "quite" leaders. Ones who lead through example and calmness etc...

Screw that! I want a firey leader for a change. One who goes down the line when times are bad and fires up the team to go out there and play their butts off!!

Quite leadership is an oxymoron, at least on this team.... <_<

We had that in odell :( but Goddell had to be a jerk face.

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He probably caused more problems than good when he did that. As for the changes I'll believe it when I see it. I have no faith in Marvin Lewis as head coach.

I have no faith in you as a fan ! ^_^

Your opinion, just like it's my opinion that Marvin Lewis will never take this team to a Superbowl. Like I've said numerous times, I hope I'm wrong because I like the guy. But, I'm not. At this juncture, I can't fathom what anyone sees in the man to make them believe he can take us to a Superbowl. He inherited GREAT offensive talent. All he had to do was build a decent defense and hold it all together, and he has failed in both aspects. Blame it on the injuries or suspensions. I say whatever, the blame starts at the top.

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Your opinion, just like it's my opinion that Marvin Lewis will never take this team to a Superbowl. Like I've said numerous times, I hope I'm wrong because I like the guy. But, I'm not.

Your signature also makes it clear that you like Chad Johnson, probably the least mature player on the team.

I'm just saying.....

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