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Ravens media thinks they deserve to have Elite status

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"The Ravens went 13-3 last season before dropping a fluky playoff game to the eventual Super Bowl champions. They return with much the same team to face a tougher schedule, but..."

Let's review. The Ravens haven't won a playoff game since 2001, and now play a tougher schedule than the one that resulted in a one-and-done playoff drive.

This is the stuff of the elite?

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"The Ravens went 13-3 last season before dropping a fluky playoff game to the eventual Super Bowl champions. They return with much the same team to face a tougher schedule, but..."

Let's review. The Ravens haven't won a playoff game since 2001, and now play a tougher schedule than the one that resulted in a one-and-done playoff drive.

This is the stuff of the elite?

I imagine it depends where your cutoff for 'elite' is. SD and NE are the consensus top 2 it seems, and I won't argue with that. Based on last year, if Balty said they were #3 on that list, I wouldn't argue. And I'd say the top 3-4 teams in the AFC are better than anything in the NFC, so that would make Balt the #3 team in the NFL. Is that elite? Maybe. Who cares.

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San Diego, New England, Indianapolis to start... Baltimore is not better than any of those 3 teams. Ok, 13-3 last season and just like when we went 11-5, one and done in the playoffs. There has to be more of an argument than their record. I didn't read the article, but I would say Baltimore is on par with at least 4 other teams in the AFC... This year will show a lot. Don't get me wrong, they are a good team, but elite ?? No...

WHODEY !!!

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San Diego, New England, Indianapolis to start... Baltimore is not better than any of those 3 teams. Ok, 13-3 last season and just like when we went 11-5, one and done in the playoffs. There has to be more of an argument than their record. I didn't read the article, but I would say Baltimore is on par with at least 4 other teams in the AFC... This year will show a lot. Don't get me wrong, they are a good team, but elite ?? No...

WHODEY !!!

What's are they talking about that they want to be considered one of the elite teams? Who cares how the media perceives you, if you are putting wins on the board they will eventually have to stop ignoring you. Being considered one of the elite teams does not mean that teams are going to lay down when they play you, who cares. I could care less what media person picks us to win the Superbowl and what one picks us to stink it up, it will be played out on the field why get crazy for example about what Peter King thinks about the Bengals if they are winning then that will shut him up.

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I believe that before you can be considered "elite", you can't lose to other alleged "non-elite" teams. Do the Ravens consider the Bengals elite? No. Did the Raven lose a game to the Bengals last season? Yes. Say goodbye to "Eliteness". And as far as the airline booking angle on this story, it's just idiotic, as was this comment:

Ray Lewis called this year's team the most talented in Ravens history - even better than the Super Bowl champions from the 2000 season.

Ray does that every year about this time.

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I believe that before you can be considered "elite", you can't lose to other alleged "non-elite" teams. Do the Ravens consider the Bengals elite? No. Did the Raven lose a game to the Bengals last season? Yes. Say goodbye to "Eliteness".

Ray does that every year about this time.

Then the standard for eliteness, so far as I can see, would be limited to the 73 Dolphins, 85 Bears, and about no one else. Even the Colts lost to the Texans last year.

Any given Sunday...

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I believe that before you can be considered "elite", you can't lose to other alleged "non-elite" teams. Do the Ravens consider the Bengals elite? No. Did the Raven lose a game to the Bengals last season? Yes. Say goodbye to "Eliteness".

Ray does that every year about this time.

Then the standard for eliteness, so far as I can see, would be limited to the 73 Dolphins, 85 Bears, and about no one else. Even the Colts lost to the Texans last year.

Any given Sunday...

Good point. When I think of an elite team, I think of a team that has minimal if any flaws. I think of a team that makes you a little nervous and worried that you probably don't have a chance. I don't feel that way about the Ravens. Patriots and Indy in our conference and that's about it. I think SD will be hard pressed to repeat last year's performance especially with all of the changes. Remember the Bengals had a three TD lead before blowing that one last year.

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When I think of an elite team, I think of a team that has minimal if any flaws. I think of a team that makes you a little nervous and worried that you probably don't have a chance. I don't feel that way about the Ravens.

Agreed. Not only have the Bengals had outstanding success against the Ravens....at times they've carved their defense up like few teams can. Besides, the Ravens offense has too many question marks to ignore.

Good team. Perhaps very good. But elite implies being far better than your competion and that hardly describes any team that can't win a single playoff game. (Ravens AND Chargers)

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I believe that before you can be considered "elite", you can't lose to other alleged "non-elite" teams. Do the Ravens consider the Bengals elite? No. Did the Raven lose a game to the Bengals last season? Yes. Say goodbye to "Eliteness".

Ray does that every year about this time.

Then the standard for eliteness, so far as I can see, would be limited to the 73 Dolphins, 85 Bears, and about no one else. Even the Colts lost to the Texans last year.

Any given Sunday...

Yup. Elite ain't for many, and definitely not the Ravens or the Bengals at the present.

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When I think of an elite team, I think of a team that has minimal if any flaws. I think of a team that makes you a little nervous and worried that you probably don't have a chance. I don't feel that way about the Ravens.

Agreed. Not only have the Bengals had outstanding success against the Ravens....at times they've carved their defense up like few teams can. Besides, the Ravens offense has too many question marks to ignore.

Good team. Perhaps very good. But elite implies being far better than your competion and that hardly describes any team that can't win a single playoff game. (Ravens AND Chargers)

In my mind, elite means you're good year in and year out. An elite team can win when they lose players in free agency, injuries, and can win the games they aren't supposed to. Look at a 3-4 window to determine if you are elite. Through that lens, the only teams who are elite right now are Indy, NE, SD.

The Ratbirds have one winning season in the last three....elite they are NOT.

I watched the Ratbirds play the Giants on NFL preseason. When you get over the fact that they are going to try and fake you out with fits and blitzes, Eli and company was able to exploit them pretty readily. The Giant running game feasted on the vaulted Ravens D, and Eli was able to use hot-reads to get them caught out of position. If the Bengal OLine knows that the Ravens are going to be moving around nonstop before the snap, and aren't intimidated by that then I'm supremely confident that Carson will pick them apart as he has recently. It's scary to look up and see five guys lining up over the right tackle, and moving all over the place. BUT inevitably when the ball is snapped, three drop and only two come. Carson knows that if the safety is over the tackle trying to sell a blitz, that he also can't be in position on a hot-read to cover the slot ...or the TE... ore Hoozyomamma... or Ocho. game over.

PREDICTION - There's a reason why Brat kept three TE's, and it has nothing to do with blocking... Our third receiver problem has been solved, and he weighs about 255.

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There's a reason why Brat kept three TE's, and it has nothing to do with blocking... Our third receiver problem has been solved, and he weighs about 255.

I like Bratkowski's plan if he is indeed going to actually utilize the TE position as a passing option. With Chad and T.J. stretching the field, there will be plenty of opportunities to throw underneath.

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There's a reason why Brat kept three TE's, and it has nothing to do with blocking... Our third receiver problem has been solved, and he weighs about 255.

I like Bratkowski's plan if he is indeed going to actually utilize the TE position as a passing option. With Chad and T.J. stretching the field, there will be plenty of opportunities to throw underneath.

I think the plan gets unwrapped just in time to outsmart Ryan's D. Why waste a perfectly good pass rusher coming at Kelly? He's already said in the press that its a waste of time...Kelly is too good of a blocker. Instead they'll rush the weakside, leaving Kelly free to get open. When they leave Coates free, he'll show them why he'll (someday) be a complete NFL TE. Our 4 receiver sets are going to look exactly like a max-protect. Indy did this effectively with Clark and Pollard, except neither of them could actually block. I also think it gives Housh a chance to run outside, and spare him the abuse of the middle. He needs a healthy season right about now. In eight weeks when the rest of the NFL figures that out, Henry is back and its a whole new ballgame.

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ok i think of indy and the colts a elites.

I assume you meant Indy and New England, and if so... I agree. If we include NFC teams, the only team that comes to mind for me is Seattle.

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I believe that before you can be considered "elite", you can't lose to other alleged "non-elite" teams. Do the Ravens consider the Bengals elite? No. Did the Raven lose a game to the Bengals last season? Yes. Say goodbye to "Eliteness". And as far as the airline booking angle on this story, it's just idiotic, as was this comment:

Ray Lewis called this year's team the most talented in Ravens history - even better than the Super Bowl champions from the 2000 season.

Ray does that every year about this time.

Well the ravens are 2-4 vs us in the past 2 years so if their elite we're super l33t.

ok i think of indy and the colts a elites as for the chargers no they are not. rivers is not on the level of the top qb's in the game. as for the raven no way no how are they even close to that.

Just because they don't have a elite QB doesn't mean they aren't a elite team,They have the best player in the NFL they have gates who might as well be a WR and returning all 11 starters to the offense for the ,They have one of the most fearsome defenses in the nfl right now the only team's in the NFL I'd rank higher then them are the Colts (Current Champions deserve 1# till proven otherwise) and the Patriots who now easily can have a top 5 offense though I do think their defense is going down hill.

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ok i think of indy and the colts a elites.

I assume you meant Indy and New England, and if so... I agree. If we include NFC teams, the only team that comes to mind for me is Seattle.

yea TDB lol i meant the colt and patriots thanks for correcting that i did not even realize i had the same team twice lol.

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