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HoosierCat Grand Master

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The HGH scandal spreads to the coaching ranks...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football...e_wilson-2.html

I wonder why they haven't mentioned Wade Wilson's penalty yet. That can't be good IMHO.

My guess is that the league wants him to talk. If he spills his guts on which players he gave HGH to -- and of course he did, why else would he be getting it? -- then they will probably just let him resign (obviously he'll never work in the NFL again). But if he doesn't talk they'll ban him, fine him, etc.

EDIT: just saw the league banned him for 5 games.

BengalszoneBilly Newbie

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The HGH scandal spreads to the coaching ranks...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football...e_wilson-2.html

I wonder why they haven't mentioned Wade Wilson's penalty yet. That can't be good IMHO.

My guess is that the league wants him to talk. If he spills his guts on which players he gave HGH to -- and of course he did, why else would he be getting it? -- then they will probably just let him resign (obviously he'll never work in the NFL again). But if he doesn't talk they'll ban him, fine him, etc.

EDIT: just saw the league banned him for 5 games.

I guess he didn't talk, huh?

HairOnFire Newbie

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You guys know where I stand on this issue. If the NFL really wants to clean up it's game then this is where it should concentrate. Let the criminal justice system sort out the issues that don't have an impact on the field.

As for the penalty, it may be proof of a more consistent punishment but it's still inadequate. Anyone busted for steroid or HGH use should be lost for at least 8 games, and I wouldn't shed a tear if it was a full season. The second offense should result in a lifetime ban. No third strike.

agreen_112 Newbie

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Considering how much Harrison has been injured the past few years, would he even still be in the league if he wasn't juicing? I doubt it.

Your absolutely right... Now just think of how many players are in the same boat as Harrison. There's a good percentage of players that DO take HGH's and don't get caught because of the loose policy. Honestly, I'm all for it, I think it makes the game better.... But Bonds is still a cheater, no steriods in Baseball!!! :angry:

HairOnFire Newbie

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Considering how much Harrison has been injured the past few years, would he even still be in the league if he wasn't juicing? I doubt it.

Exactly. Harrison claimed that he wasn't guilty of taking a performance enhancing drug and was simply using a banned substance that helped him recover from injuries. That excuse has become pretty familiar and resonates in some circles despite the obvious conclusion that no performance of any kind is possible if the player isn't able to stay healthy. And if you're using chemicals to ensure your availability you've gained an unfair competitive advanatge over a teammate you're competing with for playing time AND an opponent that you wouldn't have faced had you not cheated.

For whatever it might be worth, Goodell was interviewed on ESPN yesterday and addressed the topic, claiming that the 1,200 drug tests administered each year are ample proof the NFL is doing enough. But it should be pointed out to the commish that there's no drug test available that confirms HGH use, and offenders are only caught when local and internet pharmacy records accidently fall into the hands of the press...as happened in Carolina, happened again with the Steelers team doctor, happened yet again with Tim Couch, and now happened yet again with Rodney Harrison.

None were caught by actual drug testing.

kenyon1977 Newbie

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No Test for HGH. True

1200 drug tests a year enough? Sure for the drugs they know about.

Faster return from injury better for fans, owners, sponsers? Yup sounds about right. The only people out there that want a test for HGH is the Bicycling Tour.

jjakq27 Newbie

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Considering how much Harrison has been injured the past few years, would he even still be in the league if he wasn't juicing? I doubt it.

Your absolutely right... Now just think of how many players are in the same boat as Harrison. There's a good percentage of players that DO take HGH's and don't get caught because of the loose policy. Honestly, I'm all for it, I think it makes the game better.... But Bonds is still a cheater, no steriods in Baseball!!! :angry:

All for what? Cheating?
agreen_112 Newbie

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Considering how much Harrison has been injured the past few years, would he even still be in the league if he wasn't juicing? I doubt it.

Your absolutely right... Now just think of how many players are in the same boat as Harrison. There's a good percentage of players that DO take HGH's and don't get caught because of the loose policy. Honestly, I'm all for it, I think it makes the game better.... But Bonds is still a cheater, no steriods in Baseball!!! :angry:

All for what? Cheating?

To recover from an injury IMO is when it should be allowed. Read El_Danimals post... How many of you think Carson used HGH to recover from the Knee reconstruction?

jjakq27 Newbie

jjakq27

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Considering how much Harrison has been injured the past few years, would he even still be in the league if he wasn't juicing? I doubt it.

Your absolutely right... Now just think of how many players are in the same boat as Harrison. There's a good percentage of players that DO take HGH's and don't get caught because of the loose policy. Honestly, I'm all for it, I think it makes the game better.... But Bonds is still a cheater, no steriods in Baseball!!! :angry:

All for what? Cheating?

To recover from an injury IMO is when it should be allowed. Read El_Danimals post... How many of you think Carson used HGH to recover from the Knee reconstruction?

I've never heard of anything like that before...but I have been told that I live a sheltered life. I can't see the league allowing something like that or Carson doing it unless it is controlled and documented like a doctor admininistered steroid would be.

HairOnFire Newbie

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Interesting reaction in the Los Angeles Daily News, one of my local papers.

A columnist responding to Goodell's interview with Mort mocked Goodell's complaint that his image was entirely that of a crusading hardliner. " Until Goodell does something besides suspending a few players, it's fair. Beyond that, what has he done?"

Later in the same article the writer observes..."If Goodell really wants to clean up the NFL perhaps he should direct his attention to the growing number of stories about steroid and HGH."

Also, I noticed yesterday ESPN ran more of Mort's interview with Goodell including a snippet where Goodell incorrectly implies that the NFL was an active participant in the investigation that caught Harrison. Nothing coud be further from the truth.

Harrison was busted by a federal investigation into online drug purchases from China. Simply put, Harrison wasn't targeted by anyone, including the NFL's testing program, and was only nabbed by the feds after making his HGH purchase using his real name and home address. So Goodell can crow about 1,200 drug tests being prooof that it's "doing enough" to expose cheaters, but the sad truth of the matter is the feds dropped Harrison into Goodell's lap.

BengalszoneBilly Newbie

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Also, I noticed yesterday ESPN ran more of Mort's interview with Goodell including a snippet where Goodell incorrectly implies that the NFL was an active participant in the investigation that caught Harrison. Nothing coud be further from the truth.

:lol: Can the commissioner be suspended for knowingly lying to the media? ^_^

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