Dexter slims down

[GapControl]

Dexter Jackson said to the Post that he has lost 8 pounds. He is down from 216 and is at 208 now. What are your thoughts? Do you like it or do you want more beef?

It seems interesting that Landon gains 10 to become 235, Simmons is cut, Brooks at 260 is in, Jeanty at 245 is in and Henderson is at 270 or abouts. I am not sure Hartwells weight but I think he is at 232??

So what I am getting to is, it seems interesting because the LBs are bigger than last year but Dexter at SS is smaller. Could we be seeing a defensive philosophy change for the coming season from Marvin and the coaches? A faster DBackfield and a more punishing LB core maybe.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Dexter Jackson said to the Post that he has lost 8 pounds. He is down from 216 and is at 208 now. What are your thoughts? Do you like it or do you want more beef?

Obviously MORE BEEF TO STOP THE DAMN RUN PLEASE!!

[gobengals19]

I think Dexter may need the reduced weight to keep his speed. With the younger guys coming in, the footsteps are getting louder. Plus, who says its not a good weightloss. Both Hall and Joseph like to tackle, something James and ONeal never were fond of. It allows our safeties to cheat back a little.

The running game is the least of my worries, its that damn passing game that killed us last year. Specifically, 3rd and whatever - it didnt matter if it was 3rd and 3 or 3rd and 23 - the other team would get 1 more yard than required.

Anyone look at the beef on our DL now? Thorton is now the smallest in the middle. I think Marvin wants a faster back 7 and specifically secondary that can move to the ball.

[GapControl]

I think Dexter may need the reduced weight to keep his speed. With the younger guys coming in, the footsteps are getting louder. Plus, who says its not a good weightloss. Both Hall and Joseph like to tackle, something James and ONeal never were fond of. It allows our safeties to cheat back a little.

Anyone look at the beef on our DL now? Thorton is now the smallest in the middle. I think Marvin wants a faster back 7 and specifically secondary that can move to the ball.

the front seven in the 4-3 are four downlineman and three linebackers. who are the back 7?

[redsbengalsbucks]

I think Dexter may need the reduced weight to keep his speed. With the younger guys coming in, the footsteps are getting louder. Plus, who says its not a good weightloss. Both Hall and Joseph like to tackle, something James and ONeal never were fond of. It allows our safeties to cheat back a little.

Anyone look at the beef on our DL now? Thorton is now the smallest in the middle. I think Marvin wants a faster back 7 and specifically secondary that can move to the ball.

the front seven in the 4-3 are four downlineman and three linebackers. who are the back 7?

Just a guess, but I would say it might be the 2 CB's, the 2 S's and the three LB's.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Dexter can't cover anyone at this point, so I hope this helps his range and ability to stay with WR's a bit.

[CJBestInAFC]

I have a feeling if Dexter sucks and is slow this season he will be replaced by White by game 3. Atleast White wont miss an easy Safety in the back of the endzone against the Steelers on Big Jen. Now that was a really pathetic play by Dexter Jackson at the end of last season.

[cHaD711Johnson]

I think Dexter may need the reduced weight to keep his speed. With the younger guys coming in, the footsteps are getting louder. Plus, who says its not a good weightloss. Both Hall and Joseph like to tackle, something James and ONeal never were fond of. It allows our safeties to cheat back a little.

Anyone look at the beef on our DL now? Thorton is now the smallest in the middle. I think Marvin wants a faster back 7 and specifically secondary that can move to the ball.

the front seven in the 4-3 are four downlineman and three linebackers. who are the back 7?

Haha unless we play with 14 players on the field than there are only 4 more. 2 Safeties and 2 Corners

[gobengals19]

I think Dexter may need the reduced weight to keep his speed. With the younger guys coming in, the footsteps are getting louder. Plus, who says its not a good weightloss. Both Hall and Joseph like to tackle, something James and ONeal never were fond of. It allows our safeties to cheat back a little.

Anyone look at the beef on our DL now? Thorton is now the smallest in the middle. I think Marvin wants a faster back 7 and specifically secondary that can move to the ball.

the front seven in the 4-3 are four downlineman and three linebackers. who are the back 7?

Just a guess, but I would say it might be the 2 CB's, the 2 S's and the three LB's.

what he said. 3 LBs and 4 DBs = 7.

[GapControl]

it is the first time for me to hear the term "Back 7". if we use the 4-3 example for defense, it is difficult for me to understand how there can be a front 7 and back 7. Same goes for an example using the 3-4. in a Nickel, there are 3 dlineman, 3 lbs, and 5 defensive backs. the 5th db is called the Nickel. because of 5 cents i suppose. in the Nickel I could see the terms Front 6 and Back 5 being used just as in the 4-3 or 3-4 I could see the terms front 7 and back 4 being used.

Anyway clarification out there?

[NJ29]

Dexter Jackson said to the Post that he has lost 8 pounds. He is down from 216 and is at 208 now. What are your thoughts? Do you like it or do you want more beef?

Obviously MORE BEEF TO STOP THE DAMN RUN PLEASE!!

More weight doesn't necessarily mean better run stopping ability. If he's slimmer, hopefully he'll get a little quicker, which will allow him to break down and wrap up more effectively. I'll take a faster, swarming defense over a bunch of slow, bulky guys. If 11 guys are runnin' to the ball it doesn't much matter if the first tackle is missed.

[Kazkal]

Well depeneds on postion fast LB's are nice and all but I'll still take 235-260 lb LB's over 220 lb faster ones any day of the week.

[GapControl]

yeah, kaz... i think we tried the 220 lb and we see how it has worked. let`s get some umph there now.

[bengal4life]

yeah, kaz... i think we tried the 220 lb and we see how it has worked. let`s get some umph there now.

I second that. Our LB's at 220 looked silly trying to tackle RB's.

[Spor_tees]

Well depeneds on postion fast LB's are nice and all but I'll still take 235-260 lb LB's over 220 lb faster ones any day of the week.

Works for Denver. Then again it seems like things work for Denver all the time no matter who they plug in. Guess that has something to do with having an awesome head coach.

[HairOnFire]

Anyway clarification out there?

It's fairly common for a teams run defense to be graded based upon the talent level of the defensive lineman and the linebackers. The smaller run defense contributions of the players who make up the secondary are typically ignored, resulting in a so-called front seven. Likewise, when judging a teams defensive prowess in pass coverage the players who make up the defensive line are typically ignored due to how infrequently those players are dropped into coverage. Thus, the back seven is typically made up the previously ignored secondary players while linebackers are counted again due to their fairly unique duel role as run and pass defenders.

Obviously, the term front or back seven are applied most accurately to a teams base 4-3 package, and exceptions are almost unlimited. It's also understood that the term is flawed from the start as any analysis of a teams run defense should include the SS position, just as any analysis of a teams ability in pass coverage should take into account the abilities of it's defensive ends. But it is what it is, and the terms front and back seven are frequently used whenever a short-hand version of analysis is considered acceptable.

[Bobcat Bengal]

I have a feeling if Dexter sucks and is slow this season he will be replaced by White by game 3. Atleast White wont miss an easy Safety in the back of the endzone against the Steelers on Big Jen. Now that was a really pathetic play by Dexter Jackson at the end of last season.

Ugh....don't remind me.

I thought it was the Denver game, though.

[J24]

I have a feeling if Dexter sucks and is slow this season he will be replaced by White by game 3. Atleast White wont miss an easy Safety in the back of the endzone against the Steelers on Big Jen. Now that was a really pathetic play by Dexter Jackson at the end of last season.

Ugh....don't remind me.

I thought it was the Denver game, though.

No it was against the hated steelers.

[GapControl]

Anyway clarification out there?

It's fairly common for a teams run defense to be graded based upon the talent level of the defensive lineman and the linebackers. The smaller run defense contributions of the players who make up the secondary are typically ignored, resulting in a so-called front seven. Likewise, when judging a teams defensive prowess in pass coverage the players who make up the defensive line are typically ignored due to how infrequently those players are dropped into coverage. Thus, the back seven is typically made up the previously ignored secondary players while linebackers are counted again due to their fairly unique duel role as run and pass defenders.

Obviously, the term front or back seven are applied most accurately to a teams base 4-3 package, and exceptions are almost unlimited. It's also understood that the term is flawed from the start as any analysis of a teams run defense should include the SS position, just as any analysis of a teams ability in pass coverage should take into account the abilities of it's defensive ends. But it is what it is, and the terms front and back seven are frequently used whenever a short-hand version of analysis is considered acceptable.

thanks hair, i`ll buy that.