El Tigere Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Man he is just taking up a roster spot! Do you guys know if Alex Stepanovich can long snap at all or anybody else on the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I disagree, a good long snapper is pretty important. I have no issues with St.Louis being on the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I may be mistaken, but I don't think long snappers take up a roster space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Tigere Posted July 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I disagree, a good long snapper is pretty important. I have no issues with St.Louis being on the teamI agree but what i ment is i wish he could do something else! He cant play TE and is listed as one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I may be mistaken, but I don't think long snappers take up a roster space.They do.I don't object at all to having a specialized long snapper on the roster, but over the last two seasons I've lost a ton of confidence that St. Louis is as good as we thought he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I may be mistaken, but I don't think long snappers take up a roster space.They do.I don't object at all to having a specialized long snapper on the roster, but over the last two seasons I've lost a ton of confidence that St. Louis is as good as we thought he was.He has been one of the most consistent long snappers for years. If he has problems this season I'm sure that a replacement will be looked into. He is more than capable of playing TE for the Bengals, all he has to do is block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I may be mistaken, but I don't think long snappers take up a roster space.They do.I don't object at all to having a specialized long snapper on the roster, but over the last two seasons I've lost a ton of confidence that St. Louis is as good as we thought he was.He has been one of the most consistent long snappers for years. If he has problems this season I'm sure that a replacement will be looked into. He is more than capable of playing TE for the Bengals, all he has to do is block.I have an extra large lawn gnome that could play TE for the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 The real question is:How lazy is Brad St. Louis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 The real question is:How lazy is Brad St. Louis? Your on to something here..you should keep it up all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 The guy makes one big mistake (I know, real big) and we are ready to hang him out. I totally disagree with the thought of getting rid of him. Uh, that's all...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I don't object at all to having a specialized long snapper on the roster, but over the last two seasons I've lost a ton of confidence that St. Louis is as good as we thought he was.So have I ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 He is more than capable of playing TE for the Bengals, all he has to do is block.I am continually amazed at the number of fans who, not only discount the value of a good blocking tight end, especially in the Bengals system, but also presume that any tom, dick or harry would be able to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 He is more than capable of playing TE for the Bengals, all he has to do is block.I am continually amazed at the number of fans who, not only discount the value of a good blocking tight end, especially in the Bengals system, but also presume that any tom, dick or harry would be able to do it.Where in that statement do you get any of that? Brad St. Louis is a decent blocker in ST situations and has shown in the past to be able to step into the TE spot and do the job. He is definetly not my first choice as TE, but is more than adequate for emergency 3rd string TE, because he would not have to worry about running any challenging routes, all he would have to do is block and drop out for a dump off target for Palmer. Things that I'm sure he works on in practice every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Where in that statement do you get any of that? Brad St. Louis is a decent blocker in ST situations and has shown in the past to be able to step into the TE spot and do the job. He is definetly not my first choice as TE, but is more than adequate for emergency 3rd string TE, because he would not have to worry about running any challenging routes, all he would have to do is block and drop out for a dump off target for Palmer. Things that I'm sure he works on in practice every week.Actually, I think that I was reacting to the post after yours, sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 He is more than capable of playing TE for the Bengals, all he has to do is block.I am continually amazed at the number of fans who, not only discount the value of a good blocking tight end, especially in the Bengals system, but also presume that any tom, dick or harry would be able to do it.Which is exactly the reason I raised that question when the thread started on the recently signed TE Blizzard! Between dealing with pass protection and running game blocking schemes, not to mention having to also deal with your own occassional pass routes to worry about running correctly, the Tight End position is certainly NOT one of the easier ones in the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 What I want to know is besides the end of last season (only one of which was his fault) tell me where St. Louis has given anyone a reason to question his ability as a long snapper ?? Over the last TWO seasons ?? When ?? Give me an example... Maybe I've forgotten or something, but I just don't see all the hate... WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 What I want to know is besides the end of last season (only one of which was his fault) tell me where St. Louis has given anyone a reason to question his ability as a long snapper ?? Over the last TWO seasons ?? When ?? Give me an example... Maybe I've forgotten or something, but I just don't see all the hate... WHODEY !!!How about the playoff game against the Steelers ?Cincinnati took the second half kickoff and advanced the ball 62 yards to the Steelers 15-yard line. Graham attempted a 34-yard field goal but center Brad St. Louis' high snap sent the ball over holder Kyle Larson's head.Graham recovered the fumble, but the Steelers took over on the 34-yard line.That play, coupled with Kevin Kaesviharn's 40-yard pass interference penalty which shortly followed it, resulted in a big momentum change by the way, and then of course there was the snap in the Denver game last year.The guy is just about perfect for years but then seems to fold like an accordion as soon as the playoffs are on line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Just like in the Rudi thread, I don't think that Brad St. Louis is not one of the major areas of concern for this team. I am more concerned with the personnel on defense and their ability to change a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Just like in the Rudi thread, I don't think that Brad St. Louis is not one of the major areas of concern for this team. I am more concerned with the personnel on defense and their ability to change a game.I am not saying that it is a major area of concern but I am agreeing with the poster who said that he is losing confidence that St. Louis is as good as we thought he was.Up until last year, I think that most of us would have said that he had been just about perfect and well worth the roster slot that it costs to keep him.This year not so much ...With roster slots as valuable as they are, a guy who only long-snaps must be very very good at it, to justify using up a slot on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 St. Louis blew it again against Denver in 2006. It's a minor problem to have really, but this thread is about his impact on the team, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 St. Louis blew it again against Denver in 2006. It's a minor problem to have really, but this thread is about his impact on the team, right?It is a minor problem. So minor in fact that I think it's proper definition would be termed "miniscule," based on the fact that we seem to be talking about a fraction of the total longsnaps Mr. St. Louis made as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals. This has to be one of the most irrelevant threads that I didn't start that I've ever seen here in the 'Zone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 we seem to be talking about a fraction of the total longsnaps Mr. St. Louis made as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals.Yea it is certainly true that we are only talking about a few snaps but it is still a bit troubling to me because of when those bad snaps came.After being about perfect for years he blew a snap with the playoffs on the line two years in a row.That is a bit troubling to me ...It kind of makes you wonder that maybe the guy is a chocker who folds under pressure and tends to mis-snap the ball at the worst possible moment.But then again maybe not ...His snap on the missed FG in the Steelers game just a week after the Denver game was perfect and right on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalChamps Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I dont have a problem with a long snapper taking up a roster spot, but it is time to see if there is a better option than St.Louis. We all know that special teams can make or break you... or cost you a playoff spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 The real question is:How lazy is Brad St. Louis? Your on to something here..you should keep it up all season.I've had people tell that they think I am lazy. But the real question is who is the laziest. Rudi or Mr. St. Louis...or maybe me?Seriously, I hope he returns to previous form. He seemed very reliable for so long. Hopefully it is something fixable.If not, then the question is who takes his place and what position group would gain from his departure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Carson has thrown some key interceptions and fumbled in the final drive to seal a loss against the Jags... We are talking about one or two plays and BOTH were not his fault. Not to keep beating that horse, we all have opinions of certain players and others don't share them all the time, so I will agree to disagree that this is an issue whatsoever. Want to consider cutting someone ?? I'm on the bandwagom to get rid of McNeal's ass !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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