Chris Henry and Reggie McNeal

[The PatternMaster]

Off topic, the whole calling names really needs to end. Regardless of your opinion of another members post, there is no reason to personally attack them.

I strongly disagree. In fact, I think there shuld be more name calling, and if possible.....mind-numbing profanity.

When responding to individual opinions it's easy to say that you agree or disagree, but over time we all get a sense of a persons personality. So why should we willingly censure ourselves by refusing to acknowledge how we feel about posters that we've come to think of as friends, rivals, or even douchebags?

Let's face it, as a communication tool smilies have their limitations. they can even be confusing if used improperly. So if a writer feels it's important to let someone else know what they really think of them why shouldn't they be able to get quickly to the heart of the matter?

Frankly, name calling has gotten a bad reputation mostly because people do it badly. They too often show a lack of creativity or make the common mistake of calling someone a definative name instead of addressing that persons behavior at any given moment. For example, I think we can all agree that Kid Steakhouse is a dedicated 24/7 sort of douchebag....while others here, including myself, simply act like douchebags from time to time.

And here's the payoff. There's absolutely nothing that prevents any of us from agreeing with the individual opinions of posters that we've previously identified as being douchebags. For example, on rare occasions I've openly found myself agreeing with a well known fugtard like our beloved yet reviled Kid Steakhouse, and I believe doing so gives more weight to our temporary agreement. It becomes notable precisely because of the lack of respect that we've previously shown each other.

Finally, when considering the relative merits of name calling there's the whole sticks and stones thing to remember.

Ehhh?

I agree 100%, I mean it's internet. If you can't take someone calling you a name on a message board without you going home and beating the wife and kids then you've got some serious problems. Also in real life don't people call each other names, why should things be different here?

[Walrus]

Off topic, the whole calling names really needs to end. Regardless of your opinion of another members post, there is no reason to personally attack them.

I strongly disagree. In fact, I think there shuld be more name calling, and if possible.....mind-numbing profanity.

When responding to individual opinions it's easy to say that you agree or disagree, but over time we all get a sense of a persons personality. So why should we willingly censure ourselves by refusing to acknowledge how we feel about posters that we've come to think of as friends, rivals, or even douchebags?

Let's face it, as a communication tool smilies have their limitations. they can even be confusing if used improperly. So if a writer feels it's important to let someone else know what they really think of them why shouldn't they be able to get quickly to the heart of the matter?

Frankly, name calling has gotten a bad reputation mostly because people do it badly. They too often show a lack of creativity or make the common mistake of calling someone a definative name instead of addressing that persons behavior at any given moment. For example, I think we can all agree that Kid Steakhouse is a dedicated 24/7 sort of douchebag....while others here, including myself, simply act like douchebags from time to time.

And here's the payoff. There's absolutely nothing that prevents any of us from agreeing with the individual opinions of posters that we've previously identified as being douchebags. For example, on rare occasions I've openly found myself agreeing with a well known fugtard like our beloved yet reviled Kid Steakhouse, and I believe doing so gives more weight to our temporary agreement. It becomes notable precisely because of the lack of respect that we've previously shown each other.

Finally, when considering the relative merits of name calling there's the whole sticks and stones thing to remember.

Ehhh?

I agree 100%, I mean it's internet. If you can't take someone calling you a name on a message board without you going home and beating the wife and kids then you've got some serious problems. Also in real life don't people call each other names, why should things be different here?

I'll chime in here and point out that a message board IS different than other interactions and there ARE rules here -- as there are for every other facet of society -- written and unwritten. In my opinion, if two people want to rant back and forth at each other with personal attacks, this message board is not an appropriate place for it. Try PMing each other. Hijacking entire threads is rude to everyone. [/thread hijack]

[The PatternMaster]

Off topic, the whole calling names really needs to end. Regardless of your opinion of another members post, there is no reason to personally attack them.

I strongly disagree. In fact, I think there shuld be more name calling, and if possible.....mind-numbing profanity.

When responding to individual opinions it's easy to say that you agree or disagree, but over time we all get a sense of a persons personality. So why should we willingly censure ourselves by refusing to acknowledge how we feel about posters that we've come to think of as friends, rivals, or even douchebags?

Let's face it, as a communication tool smilies have their limitations. they can even be confusing if used improperly. So if a writer feels it's important to let someone else know what they really think of them why shouldn't they be able to get quickly to the heart of the matter?

Frankly, name calling has gotten a bad reputation mostly because people do it badly. They too often show a lack of creativity or make the common mistake of calling someone a definative name instead of addressing that persons behavior at any given moment. For example, I think we can all agree that Kid Steakhouse is a dedicated 24/7 sort of douchebag....while others here, including myself, simply act like douchebags from time to time.

And here's the payoff. There's absolutely nothing that prevents any of us from agreeing with the individual opinions of posters that we've previously identified as being douchebags. For example, on rare occasions I've openly found myself agreeing with a well known fugtard like our beloved yet reviled Kid Steakhouse, and I believe doing so gives more weight to our temporary agreement. It becomes notable precisely because of the lack of respect that we've previously shown each other.

Finally, when considering the relative merits of name calling there's the whole sticks and stones thing to remember.

Ehhh?

I agree 100%, I mean it's internet. If you can't take someone calling you a name on a message board without you going home and beating the wife and kids then you've got some serious problems. Also in real life don't people call each other names, why should things be different here?

I'll chime in here and point out that a message board IS different than other interactions and there ARE rules here -- as there are for every other facet of society -- written and unwritten. In my opinion, if two people want to rant back and forth at each other with personal attacks, this message board is not an appropriate place for it. Try PMing each other. Hijacking entire threads is rude to everyone. [/thread hijack]

But think of smilies that will go unused if people didn't resort to name calling on message boards, thousands of computer programmers would be out of work and be homeless if they didn't have to design these smilies. Besides the entertainment value of reading a message board fight is second to none.

I think the name calling can get out of control if you let it, but that is life.

[membengal]

I scanned the morning papers and the TV websites, looking for confirmation that the kid definitely made the story up (I would like to update my blog) but didn't see anything. What am I missing? Where are you all getting that from? The only thing I saw was WLWT saying a league source called it made up (which PFT echoed). Have we seen anything definitive?

Thanks.

So I take the non-responses as a "NO", then?

Would it help if I called you all douchebags?

[The PatternMaster]

I scanned the morning papers and the TV websites, looking for confirmation that the kid definitely made the story up (I would like to update my blog) but didn't see anything. What am I missing? Where are you all getting that from? The only thing I saw was WLWT saying a league source called it made up (which PFT echoed). Have we seen anything definitive?

Thanks.

So I take the non-responses as a "NO", then?

Would it help if I called you all douchebags?

lol...

But Wednesday morning, a source told News 5 that police have found that the teen's claims were unfounded.

The keyword in this sentence is "police", meaning the police said the kid was lying. The same source who told them about the accusation of assualt also told them about the police's discovery of the lie.

[membengal]

Right. A "source". Saw that.

Was looking for further confirmation somewhere. Frankly, I think it VERY unfair that Channel 12 splashes the allegation and then isn't equally forthcoming with the update that there is nothing to the allegation...

[HoosierCat]

Some stuff for mem...

http://www.fox19.com/Global/story.asp?S=66...mp;nav=menu63_2

Reaction from Chris Henry and the bengals on new allegations against the wide receiver.

Police are investigating a teenage boy's claim that Henry and teammate Reggie McNeal assaulted him Friday night in Florence. But the teen's story keeps changing.

Police tell FOX 19 the teen claims he was walking down Wetherington Boulevard near Mount Zion Road when an SUV stopped and asked him if he was a certain person, he said no. Then a white man got out of the SUV and started punching him in the face. Then someone else shoved him to the ground.

Monday the story changes and the teen says Reggie McNeal punched him in the face and Chris Henry shoved him on the ground.

Police tell us they will investigate this claim like any other and right now are trying to find out if Henry and McNeil were anywhere near the area.

Carson Palmer told FOX 19, "People take advantage of guys who have been through people like Chris Henry people are coming out of the woodwork trying to blame him for everything."

"If you have a little bit of a wrap sheet made a couple of mistakes in your past not too many people are going to believe you."

While Marvin Lewis said the media is partially to blame. "Anybody can say anything about anybody and then it can become news right or wrong true or not and for whatever reason right now it's a bad run of it."

While teammate TJ Houshmandzadeh says "stay home."

Chris Henry only said "I'm not guilty."

[DesperateDerelict]

Would it help if I called you all douchebags?

a) yes

not really

c) . . . and this would be different . . . how?

d)

e) all of the above

[The PatternMaster]

Right. A "source". Saw that.

Was looking for further confirmation somewhere. Frankly, I think it VERY unfair that Channel 12 splashes the allegation and then isn't equally forthcoming with the update that there is nothing to the allegation...

I'll take it a step further, the fact that both of these situations with Odell and Henry haven't gotten any national media coverage is very disappointing and shows the bias that the national has against the Bengals and the players.

When these guys were getting in trouble there images were shown on every sports show and every sportscaster couldn't wait to talk about how the bad men from Cincy were ruining the image of the most violent sport in American culture. Now when both guys have had false accusations against them that could potentially be the straw that broke Goodell's back, there's nothing!!

It's like they want these guys to make mistakes so they can say "see I told you these guys are out of control", but when they do the right thing off the field and behave as productive members of their community and the role models that the media makes them out to be, you rarely hear about it. Por que?

[bengal4life]

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Yeah, but it looks like there's already another investigation underway. I was just watching the ISS solar array retraction on NASA TV, and someone said Henry was wanted in connection to the damage to the thermal blanket covering the Shuttle's portside OMS. NASA engineers originally thought the tear happened at liftoff, but an anonymous source told NASA TV that shortly after the Shuttle got to orbit, a black Escalade pulled up next to it, and Chris Henry chucked a beer bottle at the Shuttle, which tore the blanket. Now, I think this story has all kinds of problems, like how does an Escalade get into space, but given Henry's history you can't completely rule it out...

WOW! That is seriously funny Hoosier! Hmmm... how does an Escalade get into space?

It appears that reports of the "space Escalade" were "unfounded" but the investigation continues.

However, news out of Rome is troubling. It appears the Vatican is -- for the moment -- supressing a new translation of the Book of Genesis based on work done by Hebrew scholars at the University of Tel Aviv. In working with the famous Dead Sea Scrolls, these scholars have produced what they call a more accurate version of the first book of the Bible. Among the notable changes is that the word "serpent" in the Garden of Eden story is more precisely rendered as "Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman." There is no word yet on whether the revelation that Odell is the Prince of Darkness will have any effect on his pending reinstatement in the league...

I believe the proper term is "Space-calade". My friend Henry bought one. I was going to but they're a little out of my price range.

[ArmyBengal]

As for the name calling, us Army guys call each other names and profanities to a level most have never thought possible. When someone does or says something stupid, we are relentless in making them feel like the retards they truly were for (at least) that moment in time. Profanity ?? My posts speak for themselves in that catagory, however, there is a difference in saying, "This is F*CKED up" or "YOU are f*cked up"... When it comes to this board and its rules, personal attacks shouldn't be happening. I have an idea that may help though... Once a year, all Bengalzone members can get together and figure out all the issues between each other in the Octagon !!! No rules !!! Anyway, I agree in all other aspects except when it comes to this board. Just trying to say, "Can't we all just get along" ?? Moving on...

Have a nice day !!!

WHODEY !!!

[duus]

Right. A "source". Saw that.

Was looking for further confirmation somewhere. Frankly, I think it VERY unfair that Channel 12 splashes the allegation and then isn't equally forthcoming with the update that there is nothing to the allegation...

I'll take it a step further, the fact that both of these situations with Odell and Henry haven't gotten any national media coverage is very disappointing and shows the bias that the national has against the Bengals and the players.

When these guys were getting in trouble there images were shown on every sports show and every sportscaster couldn't wait to talk about how the bad men from Cincy were ruining the image of the most violent sport in American culture. Now when both guys have had false accusations against them that could potentially be the straw that broke Goodell's back, there's nothing!!

It's like they want these guys to make mistakes so they can say "see I told you these guys are out of control", but when they do the right thing off the field and behave as productive members of their community and the role models that the media makes them out to be, you rarely hear about it. Por que?

I listen to the local ESPN radio station (1250 AM) every morning and evening here in Pissburgh. They spent valuable airtime during the hourly sports updates to highlight both of these recent situations with Thurman and Henry/McNeil. Do you think I have ever heard them bother to update these? Not a chance. It's one thing to be a homer and enjoy pointing out the problems of a rival, but it is entirely another thing to do this in the media, using valuable airtime ... and never correcting the information. Much, much blame to go around ... but I think Goodell and local media outlets should shoulder plenty of it.

[HoosierCat]

Another update for the MemBlog...story officially declared BS, Henry/McNeal cleared, two other suspects found...

http://www.wlwt.com/news/13512164/detail.html?taf=cin

[membengal]

Perfect, thanks Hoosier. Will get to lead the morning stuff with that. Nice to have that kind of posting for a change...

[Stripes]

What on earth, Henry?

[Kazkal]

Good for Henry...will be glad to see him come week 8.

[ArmyBengal]

What on earth, Henry?

All he needs now is a wig and a little makeup and he's a drag queen... There's hope for him after the NFL after all !!!

WHODEY !!!