Chris Henry and Reggie McNeal

[derekshank]

I love how polarizing this is. Mocking, Belittling, Name calling, Threatening. Good times. And all over the earliest stages of a story that we know almost nothing about. I'm taking the same approach that I did with Odell. If an arrest warrant is issued, Henry is screwed. If not, no big deal.

Frankly it wouldn't surprise me either way. He's obviously been trying really hard to keep his nose clean, and I respect him for that... but you also can't rule anything out considering his past history. It seems funny to me to act so sure either way. None of us were there... so assuming that the charges are bulls**t is no more intelligent than assuming they're valid. There's just no way to know based on the small of information given in the accusation.

My advice: wait for more information. Then you don't look quite so stupid when the truth comes out.

[agreen_112]

Re: smoking crack for a living:

Yes, you can. But it's not a good living. Certain compromises have to be made.

Yeah, like compromising your dignity.

Seriously though, I'm leaving this one alone.

I get jumped on for thinking O'Dell's career might've been finished.....so I'll just wait and see what transpires here.

You DO REALIZE it seems to be the same guys over and over again though, right?

Am I wrong for bringing that up?

No your not wrong, actually you've seemed to learn a little... Now how about PM'ing me to get my address, I'm still waiting for that Odell Thurman jersey. I hope its a large.

I know I say some things that sound pretty crazy to most of you guys, but Shula[/b}, You are one ignorant sonbitch! Home boys? I wish you would come through my neighborhood with that attitude.

[The PatternMaster]

Let me guess Palmer was the white guy whaling on the kid.

This sounds like it's a copycat of Thurman's case to try and get some money.

Other than the fact that in the article a law enforcement official is quoted as seeing the injuries and commenting that "an assault definitely occurred."

The 16 year old was said to be an acquaintance of Chris Henry's little brother. Maybe something happened between Henry's brother and the kid, and Henry took it upon his own "thug" self to stick up for his brother. The thing that scares me the most about this is, Henry and McNeal hanging out together. Two knuckleheads who have both been troubled by drug problems hanging out together.

I just don't see any leopards changing their spots anytime soon.

Haven't the events of the past month taught you anything, mainly to wait until the FACTS & the TRUTH come out before you go jumping to conclusions regarding allegations against high profile athletes in small towns.

There is no proof other than some 16 year old who claimed a white guy hit him, how in the world that gets back to Henry and McNeal I don't know. Also if this can't tell you what kind of car it was that his alleged attacker pulled up in doesn't that make him less than credible, I guess he's waiting to see what kind of car Henry has before he says what kind of car it was.

This s**t is getting old and if you think Henry would jeopardize his football career and the livelyhood of his entire family to beat up a 16 year old then...well I seriously doubt Henry had anything to do with this after reading the article and the "alleged" acccount of what happened.

Police say the 16-year-old and an 18-year-old friend were walking along Wetherington Boulevard near Mt. Zion Road just after 11 p.m. Friday night when, they say a black Navigator or Escalade pulled up next to them.

According to the police report, a white male jumped out and started punching the 16-year-old in the face. Last time I checked Henry and McNeal are black, so why are they being accused of assault.

"From that, the victim tells us another gentleman got out of the vehicle the same vehicle and in their attempt to get away, was shoved to the ground by this African American gentleman," said Cloyd.

The teen identified that man as Bengals receiver Chris Henry, and says receiver Reggie McNeill was also in the vehicle. McNeal should counter-sue for slander, the local idiots are getting out of control.

The teen also alleges that they were throwing beer bottles at him as he tried to run away.

"Go away, we don't want to talk to you."

9News tried to talk to Chris Henry Tuesday night, but no one at his house wanted to talk to us.

Henry lives just a few blocks away from where police say the assault happened.

The victim's family tells 9News that the teen knows Henry and knows his vehicle because he lives in the neighborhood and was friends with Henry's younger brother. I seriously doubt Henry knows this kid, the kid "knows" Henry like we all know Henry, by seeing him on TV and maybe around town.

Police questioned Henry Tuesday afternoon and are taking this allegation very seriously. Of they are, they would bust Henry for spitting on the sidewalk if they could, hell the county DA already showed his prejudice and contempt for Henry by calling him a "low-life".

Come Friday another alleged assault accusation will be uncovered as nothing more than a poor attempt to extort money from a high profile athlete who has a history of trouble with the law, some people are so pathetic.

Ok you just contradicted yourself in the same post.

In the immortal words of a popular Guiness Stout commercial..."BRILLIANT!"

Please tell me how I contradicted myself, incase your in doubt a Escalade and a Navigator aren't the same car.

[The PatternMaster]

I love how polarizing this is. Mocking, Belittling, Name calling, Threatening. Good times. And all over the earliest stages of a story that we know almost nothing about. I'm taking the same approach that I did with Odell. If an arrest warrant is issued, Henry is screwed. If not, no big deal.

Frankly it wouldn't surprise me either way. He's obviously been trying really hard to keep his nose clean, and I respect him for that... but you also can't rule anything out considering his past history. It seems funny to me to act so sure either way. None of us were there... so assuming that the charges are bulls**t is no more intelligent than assuming they're valid. There's just no way to know based on the small of information given in the accusation.

My advice: wait for more information. Then you don't look quite so stupid when the truth comes out.

I agree that waiting until the facts come out is the best course of action, it's just pretty frustrating for BENGALS FANS to just assume Henry is guilty based on the accusations of a 16 year old with a sketchy story. Once again I ask whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty, I guess that only applies to non-Bengals.

[bengal4life]

Let me guess Palmer was the white guy whaling on the kid.

This sounds like it's a copycat of Thurman's case to try and get some money.

Other than the fact that in the article a law enforcement official is quoted as seeing the injuries and commenting that "an assault definitely occurred."

The 16 year old was said to be an acquaintance of Chris Henry's little brother. Maybe something happened between Henry's brother and the kid, and Henry took it upon his own "thug" self to stick up for his brother. The thing that scares me the most about this is, Henry and McNeal hanging out together. Two knuckleheads who have both been troubled by drug problems hanging out together.

I just don't see any leopards changing their spots anytime soon.

Haven't the events of the past month taught you anything, mainly to wait until the FACTS & the TRUTH come out before you go jumping to conclusions regarding allegations against high profile athletes in small towns.

There is no proof other than some 16 year old who claimed a white guy hit him, how in the world that gets back to Henry and McNeal I don't know. Also if this can't tell you what kind of car it was that his alleged attacker pulled up in doesn't that make him less than credible, I guess he's waiting to see what kind of car Henry has before he says what kind of car it was.

This s**t is getting old and if you think Henry would jeopardize his football career and the livelyhood of his entire family to beat up a 16 year old then...well I seriously doubt Henry had anything to do with this after reading the article and the "alleged" acccount of what happened.

Police say the 16-year-old and an 18-year-old friend were walking along Wetherington Boulevard near Mt. Zion Road just after 11 p.m. Friday night when, they say a black Navigator or Escalade pulled up next to them.

According to the police report, a white male jumped out and started punching the 16-year-old in the face. Last time I checked Henry and McNeal are black, so why are they being accused of assault.

"From that, the victim tells us another gentleman got out of the vehicle the same vehicle and in their attempt to get away, was shoved to the ground by this African American gentleman," said Cloyd.

The teen identified that man as Bengals receiver Chris Henry, and says receiver Reggie McNeill was also in the vehicle. McNeal should counter-sue for slander, the local idiots are getting out of control.

The teen also alleges that they were throwing beer bottles at him as he tried to run away.

"Go away, we don't want to talk to you."

9News tried to talk to Chris Henry Tuesday night, but no one at his house wanted to talk to us.

Henry lives just a few blocks away from where police say the assault happened.

The victim's family tells 9News that the teen knows Henry and knows his vehicle because he lives in the neighborhood and was friends with Henry's younger brother. I seriously doubt Henry knows this kid, the kid "knows" Henry like we all know Henry, by seeing him on TV and maybe around town.

Police questioned Henry Tuesday afternoon and are taking this allegation very seriously. Of they are, they would bust Henry for spitting on the sidewalk if they could, hell the county DA already showed his prejudice and contempt for Henry by calling him a "low-life".

Come Friday another alleged assault accusation will be uncovered as nothing more than a poor attempt to extort money from a high profile athlete who has a history of trouble with the law, some people are so pathetic.

Here is a picture of McNeil that I keep in my wallut just-in-case I need to look in a, probably limo tint, window of a car so that I can recognize him

This makes no sense

[HoosierCat]

My advice: wait for more information. Then you don't look quite so stupid when the truth comes out.

Oh, c'mon, derek, get with the program! Have you forgotten DD's recently posted message board rules already?

I thought this forum and all blogging had certain rules:

1) Always shoot the messenger

2) If you have something nice to say, keep it to yourself.

3) Historical facts are less valid than current innuendo, which is less important than one's opinion.

4) Anybody who types in complete sentences, uses grammar and punctuation well, and uses words normally found in spelling bees is probably an English teacher, and totally unreliable.

5) Revisionist history is encouraged.

6) Anything expressed in a non-humorous way is fact.

7) If you start the topic, it's your fault.

8) If you quote an internet site, you must include the link, and 50% of the people will think you are somehow responsible for the information.

Now quit being reasonable!

[The PatternMaster]

I think you speak for yourself. Until Henry is proved guilty or even arrested lets wait until you start issuing ultimatiums. Besides wtf are u talking about when you referencing his "home boys", sounds like you watched BET last night and learned some new slang. What "home boys" are you refering to, his little brother? So when Odell and Henry spend time with their family they're hanging with their "home boys"?

I guess the main problem with the tri-state area is many people don't realize how ignorant and racist they really are.

Here we have people convicting Henry based on sketchy allegations from a 16 year old who claims a WHITE GUY beat him up. Btw, how does this kid know what McNeal looks like well enough to point him out in car as he's getting his ass whipped? I bet you 100 dollars 99% of Bengals fans couldn't wouldn't recognize McNeal if he walked by them on the street. There are so many holes in this kids story come Friday this will be another example of idiots trying to take advantage of a situation.

Pattern -

I do not necessarily believe these specific allegations, but I've been following Henry's career both on and off the field with interest, and he does have a problem. It's been reported to me that Chris is actually a pretty cool guy, but has encountered much of his problems after he had 17 friends and family move in with him as refugees from Louisiana in October of '04.

There's a great article that's been posted here this year (Jeff Chudhua?), that quotes well respected NFL players discussing this very issue. They state that it's VERY difficult for NFL players to turn their backs on their neighborhood friends, who have supported him during his entire career. It goes far as to say that their mindset isn't "He made it to the NFL", but "THEY (all) made it to the NFL". However, these friends often do not exhibit the necessary self-control now needed by an NFL player, and will invariably get their NFL buddy in some kind of trouble.

These players suggest that, to survive, a young NFL player must cut the ties with these life-long friends (Obviously not an easy task). I'm passing it along, as someone as fed up with the bad press as everybody else. I'm afraid that if Chris can't control these guys, and can't cut the ties, off-field problems will continue to dog his career

I read the article and I'm well aware of what the author is talking about, but there's a difference between hanging out with an entourage of guys who around you for your money and status than hanging out with your little brother. You can't lump them together because it's not the same situation.

As far as Henry's concerned, what did you expect him to do after Katrina hit, tell his family "ya'll can't stay with me even though your homeless and I just signed a million dollar contract". What type of a**h*** turns his back on his friends and family when they are in legitimate need and you have the means to help? Henry doesn't have cut ties with everyone he's ever known in life before he made it to the NFL to be successful, he just needs to make better decisions

Until they have solid evidence that Henry was involved besides the word of 16 year old who claims to know Henry as well, this story is total bulls**t, just like Odell situation was total bulls**t.

It's just mind blowing at how many people can't wait to say negative s**t about these guys before there are any arrest or convictions. At this stage it's just one person's word against anothers, call me crazy but I'm going to need more facts before I assume anyone is guilty and should be treated as such.

[HoosierCat]

Anonymous source tells channel 5 that the kid's claims are BS...

http://www.wlwt.com/news/13493413/detail.html

[Riagogogoindanati]

TPM-So your own personal definition of home boy is in reference to a young black man. When in fact, home boy is a derivitave of the spanish word homebre. So it should be referenced to Spanish Americans before African Americans.

I am getting the vibe from you that it is not okay for any other race to use the term home boy. ROFLMAO.

There are people of all races who consider their brother, their home boy.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Anonymous source tells channel 5 that the kid's claims are BS...

http://www.wlwt.com/news/13493413/detail.html

Please God let that be the case.

[Spor_tees]

Ok, how familiar do these trucks look? If you were a kid that was getting jumped and beat up on, do you think you would be able to tell the difference really quickly at night?

Maybe some people can, I for one couldn't. I was in a car accident that was the other guys fault and I couldn't even say for sure what kind of car the other guy was driving.

[Riagogogoindanati]

When the story broke (I heard from my dad in Cincinnati) I figured there was more to the story. Like the teens probably threw a rock at the SUV. Thus deserved a beat down.

[bengal4life]

Anonymous source tells channel 5 that the kid's claims are BS...

http://www.wlwt.com/news/13493413/detail.html

Please God let that be the case.

I just heard on WLW that the kid might get charged for lying about the whole thing. I knew this sounded like bulls**t.

[The PatternMaster]

TPM-So your own personal definition of home boy is in reference to a young black man. When in fact, home boy is a derivitave of the spanish word homebre. So it should be referenced to Spanish Americans before African Americans.

I am getting the vibe from you that it is not okay for any other race to use the term home boy. ROFLMAO.

There are people of all races who consider their brother, their home boy.

Whatever dude, I'm not going to play this silly ass game. The point is the author of the post, which isn't you btw, used the term home boys to refer to Henry's, who is black not latino, little brother. I was just trying to point out to him that Henry wasn't hanging out with an entourage of thugs, he was supposedly hanging out with his little brother, there is a big difference between the two.

But this whole story is bulls**t, so this whole "homeboy" thing is really retarded. You just seem like you want to be right about something.

Here you go buddy, a nice big gold star for my favorite home boy..

Congrats on being right, r u happy now?

[HoosierCat]

Anonymous source tells channel 5 that the kid's claims are BS...

http://www.wlwt.com/news/13493413/detail.html

Please God let that be the case.

I just heard on WLW that the kid might get charged for lying about the whole thing. I knew this sounded like bulls**t.

Yeah, but it looks like there's already another investigation underway. I was just watching the ISS solar array retraction on NASA TV, and someone said Henry was wanted in connection to the damage to the thermal blanket covering the Shuttle's portside OMS. NASA engineers originally thought the tear happened at liftoff, but an anonymous source told NASA TV that shortly after the Shuttle got to orbit, a black Escalade pulled up next to it, and Chris Henry chucked a beer bottle at the Shuttle, which tore the blanket. Now, I think this story has all kinds of problems, like how does an Escalade get into space, but given Henry's history you can't completely rule it out...

[BengalByTheBay]

Here is a picture of McNeil that I keep in my wallut just-in-case I need to look in a, probably limo tint, window of a car so that I can recognize him

This makes no sense

Come on man -- everybody knows that's Lawrence Fishburn.

[The PatternMaster]

Ok, how familiar do these trucks look? If you were a kid that was getting jumped and beat up on, do you think you would be able to tell the difference really quickly at night?

Maybe some people can, I for one couldn't. I was in a car accident that was the other guys fault and I couldn't even say for sure what kind of car the other guy was driving.

Well genius, if your going to convict someone of assualt you have be sure about the facts. Contrary to popular belief around here, the truth & facts are needed in some cases before someone is proven guiltyof a crime.

FLORENCE, Kentucky -- Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry was under suspicion of assault, Florence investigators said, but a source told News 5 on Wednesday that the claim is unfounded.

Capt. Linny Cloyd said previously that a 16-year-old boy claim\ed the wide receiver was one of two men who jumped from an SUV Friday night and attacked him. The teen also claimed to have seen wide receiver Reggie McNeal inside the car.

The teen filed a police report Friday night. According to the report, he and a friend were walking along the corner of Mount Zion Road and Wetherington Boulevard. A little after 11:00 p.m., an SUV pulled up next to them. A man got out of the car and began assaulting the victim.

According to the report, when the two teens tried to run away, a second man got out of the car and pushed one of the boys to the ground.

The next day, the alleged victim told police the second man was Chris Henry, said Cloyd. That's also when he told police he saw McNeal inside the car.

But Wednesday morning, a source told News 5 that police have found that the teen's claims were unfounded.

Sounds like Channel 5 needs to wait a while before they go to press with these types of stories, if they would have waited a few hours Henry's name wouldn't have been dragged through the mud again for no good reason.

[J24]

It was channel 9 but hey its Chris Henry if you hear he was arrested honestly what is the first thing that comes to mind.

[derekshank]

FLORENCE, Kentucky -- Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry was under suspicion of assault, Florence investigators said, but a source told News 5 on Wednesday that the claim is unfounded.

Capt. Linny Cloyd said previously that a 16-year-old boy claim\ed the wide receiver was one of two men who jumped from an SUV Friday night and attacked him. The teen also claimed to have seen wide receiver Reggie McNeal inside the car.

The teen filed a police report Friday night. According to the report, he and a friend were walking along the corner of Mount Zion Road and Wetherington Boulevard. A little after 11:00 p.m., an SUV pulled up next to them. A man got out of the car and began assaulting the victim.

According to the report, when the two teens tried to run away, a second man got out of the car and pushed one of the boys to the ground.

The next day, the alleged victim told police the second man was Chris Henry, said Cloyd. That's also when he told police he saw McNeal inside the car.

But Wednesday morning, a source told News 5 that police have found that the teen's claims were unfounded.

Sounds like Channel 5 needs to wait a while before they go to press with these types of stories, if they would have waited a few hours Henry's name wouldn't have been dragged through the mud again for no good reason.

Meh. I'm not going to blame the media for coming out with a story. Chris Henry being accused of anything is a story, regardless of how unfounded it is. I don't think they were irresponsible, seeing as how they didn't report anything that was untrue. They merely reported that a 16 year-old was accusing Henry of assault.

Frankly, if it has no foundation, it's another feather in Henry's cap - making him look sympathetic once again. Honestly, if I were in Henry's shoes, I'd want as many of these stories as possible. The more bogus stuff that gets reported, the less believable the next story seems. And seeing how Kenton County has basically admitted they are out to get him, these kinds of stories are exactly the type of ammunition a defense lawyer would love to have the next time Henry is accused of something.

[DesperateDerelict]

Oh-oh. It looks like alot more players were involved - Doug Johnson, CJ, maybe eve Johnathon Joseph. Here's the quote from the poor, abused teenager.

I was running late, knowing if I didn’t get home by midnight, I’d be grounded for sure. Suddenly, this big black car screeched to a halt right next to me. This guy jumps out of the car and starts hittin’ me. I didn’t know him, but he was a white guy, wearing number 11, and screaming “I’m tired of being a F&*%kin’ back up” He kept callin’ me Jeff Row-Row-Your-Boat.

Then this other guy jumped out. It kinda looked like Chris Henry, but it was hard to tell ‘cause he was either well-hidden by the car or running really far away. All he kept yellin’ was “I’m open, I’m open”

So the first guy grabbed my wallet, but he couldn’t throw it to Henry ‘cause he was too far away. I thought he was going to throw it to this Spanish guy named Ocha Cinco, but he was getting chased by a horse and wasn’t paying any attention. So he threw it to the last guy to get out of the car – they called him JJ. I’m sure it was Johnathon Joseph, ‘cause the wallet hit him right in the hands, and he dropped it.

Anyway, after that they all got back in the car and drove off. And that’s why I’m late, so please don’t ground me.

Well, there goes the season.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Lol, so the kid's story is indeed "unfounded."

Somehow, someone got beat up and decided to bring Henry's name into it for no reason? Uh, ok, whatever.

Well, any ways, hope this goes away fast.

I am all for just cutting Odell's sorry a$$ if he isn't going to shape up, but I think there's actually hope with Henry and he's a better talent.

Yet this nonsense is just getting ridiculous. Quit hanging out with the wrong people and stay out of trouble - it's not that freakin' hard folks.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Everytime one of these rumors comes out, some posters on this board show just how foolish it is to make a flash decision without all of the facts.

That said please dont stop, I get a chuckle out of reading some of these posts.

[Kazkal]

PFT says Henry is clear.

HENRY DODGES ANOTHER BULLET

A few weeks back, a prosecutor in Kenton County, Kentucky announced that Bengals receiver Chris Henry had failed a court-ordered drug test.

The only catch? He hadn't.

This time around, a 16-year-old boy claimed that Henry and teammate Reggie McNeal assaulted him on Friday night in Florence, Kentucky.

It now appears that the claim is false.

WLWT-TV, citing an unnamed source, says that the accusation is unfounded. So, unless the unnamed source is named Marvin Lewis, it looks like Henry won't be facing any further trouble.

But these two situations highlight the trouble with players making themselves into targets.

[Riagogogoindanati]

But I wanted and Orange star......that is my favorite color.

Fact versus opinion. Some people just don't get it.

Sorry I didn't get to welcome you to BZ in March.

Name calling is so third grade along with your issuance of stars. But, I guess calling another BZer a Genius is a compliment. I digress.

[Bobcat Bengal]

Oh-oh. It looks like alot more players were involved - Doug Johnson, CJ, maybe eve Johnathon Joseph. Here's the quote from the poor, abused teenager.

I was running late, knowing if I didn’t get home by midnight, I’d be grounded for sure. Suddenly, this big black car screeched to a halt right next to me. This guy jumps out of the car and starts hittin’ me. I didn’t know him, but he was a white guy, wearing number 11, and screaming “I’m tired of being a F&*%kin’ back up” He kept callin’ me Jeff Row-Row-Your-Boat.

Then this other guy jumped out. It kinda looked like Chris Henry, but it was hard to tell ‘cause he was either well-hidden by the car or running really far away. All he kept yellin’ was “I’m open, I’m open”

So the first guy grabbed my wallet, but he couldn’t throw it to Henry ‘cause he was too far away. I thought he was going to throw it to this Spanish guy named Ocha Cinco, but he was getting chased by a horse and wasn’t paying any attention. So he threw it to the last guy to get out of the car – they called him JJ. I’m sure it was Johnathon Joseph, ‘cause the wallet hit him right in the hands, and he dropped it.

Anyway, after that they all got back in the car and drove off. And that’s why I’m late, so please don’t ground me.

Well, there goes the season.