More Trouble for Odell?

[DesperateDerelict]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2897413

Thurman's lucky the pansies were easy to pay off...Best news I've heard all week. Way to go Thurman, now get your ass back on tha field!!!

Wait a freaking minute! So Odell ended up paying these guys off! So something did happen otherwise Odell wouldn't have given these guys a dime. I wonder if the Commish will take into account a situation like this as a confession of guilt just the same as he does when a player pleads "no contest" to charges.

Damn! I said it before:

However, since it was reported that 'hush money' had already been offered, then PEOPLE WOULD BELIEVE THAT ODELL HAD BEEN INVOLVED REGARDLESS OF THE TRUTH. And, since Good-all is cleaning up an image, which is the result of people's perceptions, this could actually end his career no matter what had transpired this past weekend!!!

Welcome to a Brave New NFL, with Good-all as "Big Brother".

[SkinneymulleT]

Negotiated settlements are just that. Set of facts, potential risk to parties involved, and a fixed some exchanged to limit the risk of the parties. This happens all the time and has nothing to do with guilt. Put another way, even if odell was in the right, he has a lot at stake, and the other guys maybe have some risk in lying to the police about thier actions that night, so odell throws whats called nuisance money at them for "medical bills" and everyone walks away happy. Odell shuts his mouth and finally makes a right move and everyone is going to bash him. WHO DEY!

[HoosierCat]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2897413

Thurman's lucky the pansies were easy to pay off...Best news I've heard all week. Way to go Thurman, now get your ass back on tha field!!!

Wait a freaking minute! So Odell ended up paying these guys off!

We don't know that. In fact, the espn story specifically says the county has no info about any settlement, even if there was one.

My guess (and that's all it is, I could be wrong) is that there wasn't. As the alleged incident dveloped, it semed more and more lame and drummed up with each emerging (and often conflicting) detail. I didn't expect anything to happen at the hearing today except for the allegations to be dismissed.

[Spor_tees]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2897413

Thurman's lucky the pansies were easy to pay off...Best news I've heard all week. Way to go Thurman, now get your ass back on tha field!!!

Wait a freaking minute! So Odell ended up paying these guys off!

We don't know that. In fact, the espn story specifically says the county has no info about any settlement, even if there was one.

My guess (and that's all it is, I could be wrong) is that there wasn't. As the alleged incident dveloped, it semed more and more lame and drummed up with each emerging (and often conflicting) detail. I didn't expect anything to happen at the hearing today except for the allegations to be dismissed.

Read the article again. This is a quote specifically from the deputy clerk of Magistrate Court,

Papers seeking to dismiss the case were being filed by the complainants, Chrissy Pitts, deputy clerk of Magistrate Court in Jasper County, said Friday. Pitts did not know what prompted their decision.

"It was settled," Pitts said. "We aren't aware of any terms that were involved in the settlement. That was between the attorneys and the parties."

Basically what she was saying is that there was a settlement, but the court had no details of what was in the settlement. i.e. amount of money

If Odell is going to pay out money to EVERY person that accuses him of something for now on even if he is not guilty of it, then he better not EVER leave his house. I'm sorry but I do see this as an admission of some kind of wrong doing, where Odell hopes that because there was no formal charges he will hopefully avoid the Godell's axe.

[HoosierCat]

Read the article again. This is a quote specifically from the deputy clerk of Magistrate Court,

Papers seeking to dismiss the case were being filed by the complainants, Chrissy Pitts, deputy clerk of Magistrate Court in Jasper County, said Friday. Pitts did not know what prompted their decision.

"It was settled," Pitts said. "We aren't aware of any terms that were involved in the settlement. That was between the attorneys and the parties."

Interesting. I don't believe the "it was settled" quote was in the initial write-up. If so I missed it. But as for a settlement, it doesn't necessarily mean money changed hands, though I admit that's likely. If Odell's lawyers had enough evidence that the plaintiff's stories were bull, they could have simply agreed to not sue them as long as they dropped the allegations.

[HoosierCat]

From the NFL's No. 1 gossip site, PFT:

THURMAN CHARGES WERE DROPPED WITH NO PAYMENT

We suggested earlier in the day that the abandonment of charges against Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman might have been the result of a small payment of cash or other valuables to the accusers. Though some might find such arrangements to be distasteful at best and inappropriate at work, it's not uncommon for a civil settlement to be used to resolve criminal charges.

But a league source tells us that these charges were dropped with no payment of any kind coming from Thurman.

Per the source, the charges were dropped because work done in advance of the hearing that had been scheduled for Friday revealed hopelessly conflicting versions of the events.

It doesn't mean that Thurman didn't rough someone up last weekend. It means that the guys who accused him of wrongdoing apparently decided that they weren't going to be able to persuade a magistrate to issue an arrest warrant.

FWIW

[Kazkal]

From the NFL's No. 1 gossip site, PFT:

THURMAN CHARGES WERE DROPPED WITH NO PAYMENT

We suggested earlier in the day that the abandonment of charges against Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman might have been the result of a small payment of cash or other valuables to the accusers. Though some might find such arrangements to be distasteful at best and inappropriate at work, it's not uncommon for a civil settlement to be used to resolve criminal charges.

But a league source tells us that these charges were dropped with no payment of any kind coming from Thurman.

Per the source, the charges were dropped because work done in advance of the hearing that had been scheduled for Friday revealed hopelessly conflicting versions of the events.

It doesn't mean that Thurman didn't rough someone up last weekend. It means that the guys who accused him of wrongdoing apparently decided that they weren't going to be able to persuade a magistrate to issue an arrest warrant.

FWIW

Hopfully doesn't hurt his chances of coming back.Good to hear

[DesperateDerelict]

FWIW

What's FWIW?

[The PatternMaster]

FWIW

What's FWIW?

For what it's worth...

It's worth alot, it means that Odell didn't do s**t and these lying scumbags really deserved to get there arse whupped.

Odell would probably pursue further action but doesn't want to pay the legal fees.

[Judge]

Charges have been dropped.

[Stripes]

FWIW

What's FWIW?

It took me about a year to figure that out, along with "OTOH."

That problem rendered plenty of Hoosier's posts useless to me, through no fault of his own.

[membengal]

I really don't understand it - It's like you expect Goodell to be a toggle switch - either he does nothing without 10 convictions or he lets guys do whatever they want.

I agree, you don't understand it. Pacman wan't convicted 10 times. The charges or investigations were dropped each and every time. Yet that didn't stop Goodell from handing out a full season suspension, the most lengthy handed out under the new policy. So not only didn't Goodell wait for a conviction....he proved it wasn't required. So he can act against Mike Vick immediately if he so chooses, but not has he chosen not to do so....he's claimed that he can't because the legal system hasn't produced a conviction. And that's pure crap.

Again, I have no desire to defend Pacman Jones or attack Mike Vick, but I'd like to see a little more consistency from the commish's office, and a little less hypocrisy. And returning the conversation to Bengal related matters, I think you have to question why Chris Henry wasn't given the same opportunity to reduce his suspension as Pacman and Tank were granted.

Fantastic point. In every respect.

[derekshank]

I really don't understand it - It's like you expect Goodell to be a toggle switch - either he does nothing without 10 convictions or he lets guys do whatever they want.

I agree, you don't understand it. Pacman wan't convicted 10 times. The charges or investigations were dropped each and every time. Yet that didn't stop Goodell from handing out a full season suspension, the most lengthy handed out under the new policy. So not only didn't Goodell wait for a conviction....he proved it wasn't required. So he can act against Mike Vick immediately if he so chooses, but not has he chosen not to do so....he's claimed that he can't because the legal system hasn't produced a conviction. And that's pure crap.

Again, I have no desire to defend Pacman Jones or attack Mike Vick, but I'd like to see a little more consistency from the commish's office, and a little less hypocrisy. And returning the conversation to Bengal related matters, I think you have to question why Chris Henry wasn't given the same opportunity to reduce his suspension as Pacman and Tank were granted.

Fantastic point. In every respect.

I agree that Vick should be suspended... but I do understand the distinction between his situation and Pacman/Henry. While Vick has been under a cloud a few times, he has yet to be arrested. He wasn't arrested for his mary jane incident at the airport. He hasn't been arrested for the dog-fighting ring yet... and while the Ron Mexico thing besmirches his character, it's not something worthy of being arrested for. However, Pacman and Henry have both been arrested multiple times - which appears to be the major contributing factor in Goodell's policy.

Tank served jail-time - so I assume if Vick is convicted of anything, Goodell will bring the hammer down... but for now I don't have a huge problem for him waiting for more evidence. Actually, I like it... because if he's proven to be involved, it will be easier to give him a severe suspension.

As for Henry not being given the opportunity to work his way to a shorter suspension... he should appeal for that. He was already suspended for games last season, both by the NFL and Marvin Lewis. He's served more consequences to date than either Pacman or Tank - and should therefore be given every chance they've been given to lessen the suspension.

[Bobcat Bengal]

^^^^^

That's a wrap, folks. The Thurmanator won't sniff the field again, at least not the NFL's.

I guess I can now officially lose my Thurman jersey.

IF Odell was even at that party with a gun - that's enough for me to not have any faith in his ability to grow up and become a reliable player regardless. He's still hanging out with the wrong people if this is at all true.

THERE IT IS.

Seriously guys, will you please stop jumping to conclusions... It makes you look so damn stupid sometimes.

Give the jersey to someone that supports his team and the PLAYERS no matter what until proven guilty, PM me, I'll give you my adress... Seriously, don't wear that jersey ever again dude, you don't deserve to!

you can't be serious......excuse me if Odell seems to find himself in trouble at the most INOPPORTUNE times.

Don't give me no s**t about me not being a bengals fan.

It's a little hard to give O'Dell the benefit of the doubt.

[membengal]

derek, that's an interesting defense of Goodell, and, I mean this in the highest respect given my profession, damn near lawerly.

But...it's also splitting the finest of hairs. If that's what Goodell is falling back on, arrests vs. other quasi-legal embarrassments, I remain firmly in the Goodell-is-a-supreme-hypocritical-prick camp.

[DesperateDerelict]

.....excuse me if Odell seems to find himself in trouble at the most INOPPORTUNE times.

Don't give me no s**t about me not being a bengals fan.

It's a little hard to give O'Dell the benefit of the doubt.

Well, Odell is applying for reinstatement ==> if Good-all gives ANY consideration to last week's libelous activities, he'll leave himself and the league wide-open for all sorts of negative second-guessing and probably a lawsuit.

Article from Adam Schefter: Link = On NFL.com

Bengals' Thurman eager to get reinstated

(June 11, 2007) -- At a time when a handful of players are being exiled out of the league, one is trying to get back in.

Cincinnati middle linebacker Odell Thurman, coming off his year-long suspension, was eligible to apply for reinstatement for the first time. Thurman, according to a Bengals official, did. In fact, as if to prove his eagerness, Thurman had his reinstatement application ready to go for weeks now.

The league does not confirm whether it has received reinstatement applications from a player, but the soonest Thurman could come off suspension is July 11.

Typically it takes the league four to six weeks to render its decision, but that would mean Thurman is expected to learn his fate before training camp. The league could hand down its decision anytime before then.

Last month, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said if Thurman is reinstated, the middle linebacker will have the chance to win a job with the Bengals. Cincinnati could use him.

During Thurman's rookie year in 2005, he was as good a defensive rookie as any in the league. He led the Bengals with 98 tackles, intercepted five passes, rang up 1½ sacks and was a dominant defender.

Since then, Thurman has been thrown for a loss. In February, Thurman pleaded no contest to drunk driving while also admitting he was undergoing treatment for alcohol abuse.

Now Thurman is hoping for another chance.

[Sandwedge]

.....excuse me if Odell seems to find himself in trouble at the most INOPPORTUNE times.

Don't give me no s**t about me not being a bengals fan.

It's a little hard to give O'Dell the benefit of the doubt.

Well, Odell is applying for reinstatement ==> if Good-all gives ANY consideration to last week's libelous activities, he'll leave himself and the league wide-open for all sorts of negative second-guessing and probably a lawsuit.

Article from Adam Schefter: Link = On NFL.com

Bengals' Thurman eager to get reinstated

(June 11, 2007) -- At a time when a handful of players are being exiled out of the league, one is trying to get back in.

Cincinnati middle linebacker Odell Thurman, coming off his year-long suspension, was eligible to apply for reinstatement for the first time. Thurman, according to a Bengals official, did. In fact, as if to prove his eagerness, Thurman had his reinstatement application ready to go for weeks now.

The league does not confirm whether it has received reinstatement applications from a player, but the soonest Thurman could come off suspension is July 11.

Typically it takes the league four to six weeks to render its decision, but that would mean Thurman is expected to learn his fate before training camp. The league could hand down its decision anytime before then.

Last month, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said if Thurman is reinstated, the middle linebacker will have the chance to win a job with the Bengals. Cincinnati could use him.

During Thurman's rookie year in 2005, he was as good a defensive rookie as any in the league. He led the Bengals with 98 tackles, intercepted five passes, rang up 1½ sacks and was a dominant defender.

Since then, Thurman has been thrown for a loss. In February, Thurman pleaded no contest to drunk driving while also admitting he was undergoing treatment for alcohol abuse.

Now Thurman is hoping for another chance.

Why would there be a law suit against the NFL?? I don't know what exactly went down and nobody here does either, but I'm sure the commish does... If there was a pay off(I said IF), maybe the commish might think Odell is still a risk to the league...On the other hand if he reinstates him then maybe Odell was innocent,... Point being, I'm sure that Goodell already knows what happened..

[DesperateDerelict]

Point being, I'm sure that Goodell already knows what happened..

Sandman - What episode in the past makes you think that Good-all is better informed than anyone else. Actually, why don't you take it a step further - Why do you think Herr Commissioner is AS WELL INFORMED as any other interested party?

Just curious . . .

[HoosierCat]

While we're on the general subject...Pacman drops his appeal...

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cf...p;news_id=56630

[Sandwedge]

Point being, I'm sure that Goodell already knows what happened..

Sandman - What episode in the past makes you think that Good-all is better informed than anyone else. Actually, why don't you take it a step further - Why do you think Herr Commissioner is AS WELL INFORMED as any other interested party?

Just curious . . .

Just thinking, that anything that has to do with anyone in the NFL the commish would need a full briefing...I'm sure ODell will have to take his entourage to NY next month and meet with Goodell... If he doesn't know what has happened in the last couple of weeks then I'm sure he will grill thurman about it... Just my hunch that he already knows though...

[membengal]

Ironic bump.

Much of this coversation is rather on-point all over again.

[DesperateDerelict]

Ironic bump.

Much of this coversation is rather on-point all over again.

Mem - How many times have we scolded you - "Quit livin' in the past". (Probably thinking back to the Bengals' glory days in the 90's.)

[membengal]

No doubt. People keep slaggin the good time in 1993. I say, where were YOU when Jeff Query roamed the land?

[HairOnFire]

No doubt. People keep slaggin the good time in 1993. I say, where were YOU when Jeff Query roamed the land?

Back in the day, when I used to masturbate with my thumbs, I used to play an ancient version of Madden that featured a nearly unstoppable version of Jeff Query. Not that I threw the ball all that much as I routinely racked up more than 300 yards rushing per game with Harold Green.

Good times.

[agreen_112]

This is f**king Bulls**t, WE NEED A EXPLANATION NOW!!!