kentjett Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 They have good starting pitching, good players at every other position but they still manage to screw everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I wouldn't call the starting pitching good. I expect the bullpen to turn it around, but they'll miss the playoffs because the starters can't hold up down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J24 Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 and you are suprised about this why exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 don`t buy the local media hype. if the reds are as good as we are lead to believe each year, we would be calling ourselves the Atlanta Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 The west coast has always been tough for the Reds... The bullpen will livin' up, we'll be okay in the standings come August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJBestInAFC Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Guarantee the Reds finish in either last or second to last place in the division this year. I am just not convinced there will be any turn around this year. Next year the Reds will trade away the majority of their good players. It is a common trend in the Reds clubhouse over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 I think we need more closers, I mean we loose most of our games in the 8th inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 The Reds are utterly terrible, as usual.At best they've been mediocre since 1998. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Guarantee the Reds finish in either last or second to last place in the division this year. I am just not convinced there will be any turn around this year. Next year the Reds will trade away the majority of their good players. It is a common trend in the Reds clubhouse over the years.All my zone dollars says the Reds DON'T finish in last place!!What are we? Home for 9 games? WE'll be okay guys, calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 I wouldn't call the starting pitching good.But it's not bad either. Their 4.33 ERA (that's 0.07 above the league average) is very run-of-the-mill average. They've pitched 265 innings (third in MLB) and have given up only 70 walks (that's 2nd best in MLB). The problem I'm noticing right now is that they are pitching in spurts -- pitch well for one stretch then struggle. I agree with Green, they won't finish in last place. But I also don't think things will vastly improve. And Green is right about another, they beeeeeeeeeee-low playing West Coast teams...This is the problem I'm noticing, they have no go to (not Goto for you KotOR II fans) guy in the dugout or in the front office. They have no stability (how many managers and GMs in the past five seasons?) and their main motivator and pat-on-the-back guy, Sean Casey is long gone. There's nothing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 But it's not bad either. Their 4.33 ERA (that's 0.07 above the league average) is very run-of-the-mill average. They've pitched 265 innings (third in MLB) and have given up only 70 walks (that's 2nd best in MLB). The problem I'm noticing right now is that they are pitching in spurts -- pitch well for one stretch then struggle.Yeah, the starters are certainly better than they've been in recent seasons... Todd Van Poppel. Jose Acevedo. Harang should pick it up soon, though he has disappointed me a lot thus far. Arroyo rarely gets any run support, and I'm worried he'll struggle down the stretch anyways. I like Lohse.I agree with Green, they won't finish in last place. But I also don't think things will vastly improve. And Green is right about another, they beeeeeeeeeee-low playing West Coast teams...Agreed. I figure the Reds will go on a mild tear at some point around mid-season, but it won't amount to much in the end. They look like a 70-75 win team -- par for the course this decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yeah, it's a long season, so I think just give us time, hopefully we do better after the All-Star game stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Same old REDS, Same old story...... Is football near Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacD BengalFan Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 I think we need more closers, I mean we loose most of our games in the 8th inning.The sad this is now they are losing them in the first inning. I think the entire pitching staff needs to be waived, except for Arroyo and Harang. At least they are more consistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal1971 Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Guarantee the Reds finish in either last or second to last place in the division this year. I am just not convinced there will be any turn around this year. Next year the Reds will trade away the majority of their good players. It is a common trend in the Reds clubhouse over the years.I think that is what they need to do. Trade Dunn!!!! He is a DH. He sucks in left. He does not drive in enough runs. The Reds need someone in the middle of the lineup that makes contact and will not strike out as much. Check out Dunn's BA with RISP. It is about .125. They need a real run producer at 1B. Hatteberg does not do it. Conine is too old. It would be nice if David Ross could be a right handed middle of the order RBI man. Will Encarnacion live up to the potential he showed last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacD BengalFan Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Of course after making my last comment about the bad starting pitching, they win the next two with a shutout and a pitchers dual. Is this just an aberation or the start of a run to the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Of course after making my last comment about the bad starting pitching, they win the next two with a shutout and a pitchers dual. Is this just an aberation or the start of a run to the top?If it's a run to the top, they started at the right time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Hey guys if ya give up on the REDS my ORIOLES can use all the fan support we can get, hey we are in 2nd place(with a losing record ). But what the hell!!!! You cant be for the yankees can you???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 But what the hell!!!! You cant be for the yankees can you???? Do we seem gay to you? Screw the Yankees... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacD BengalFan Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Hey guys if ya give up on the REDS my ORIOLES can us all the fan support we can get, hey we are in 2nd place(with a losing record ). But what the hell!!!! You cant be for the yankees can you???? I live between Washington D.C. and Baltimore and there is no way I can support a team that has not seen the playoffs since, well, I can't remember. Plus, I fully expect the O's to do the seasonal swone in the coming weeks with the firing of Sam Perlazzo shortly after. If they do finish in 2nd place in the division, they won't make the playoffs again because their record will not be above .500. Until Angelos sells the team, this will be the O's lot in life.And one last thing. I HATE THE YANKEES!!!!! I AM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THEM!!!!! I HOPE THEY LOSE EVERY FREAKING GAME THEY PLAY!!!!Sorry. The caps lock key got stuck on some left over beer. But it sure felt good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacD BengalFan Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Of course after making my last comment about the bad starting pitching, they win the next two with a shutout and a pitchers dual. Is this just an aberation or the start of a run to the top?If it's a run to the top, they started at the right time!Unfortuantly it became an aberation. The run to the top lasted just a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Currently on pace to be, literally, the worst Reds' team of all-time, by setting a club record for losses in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacD BengalFan Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Is it possible that Jerry Nerron is actually David Shula in desguise? Hmm, it makes you wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Been a Reds fan since I can remember. Suffered thru some pretty bad teams in the 50's and 60's ... and I just don't remember anything like this. Worst part is .. I just don't see it gatting any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Been a Reds fan since I can remember. Suffered thru some pretty bad teams in the 50's and 60's ... and I just don't remember anything like this. Worst part is .. I just don't see it gatting any better.Good to see you around again Pat. PM me sometime buddy. Semper Fi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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