Odell.....its been nice knowing you.

[schnarfer]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6725166

If the Bengals organization keep telling people that Odell is not welcome back and hen he does come back we look like push overs and if we cut him we lose a top tier linebacker that WILL be signed within a week of being released. If we try and trade we will get sh!t for him. Maybe he could be aa draft day sweetner for any potential trades. Is anyone else ready for the bengals to just get rid of him and move on? It would be bittersweet to say the least.

[BTG]

I just wish they'd either come out and say they're going to let him stay on the team or cut him once and for all. Get it over with. There's no reason to not release an official statement about him. I mean, I'm convinced NO TEAM would trade for him at this point, and very few would even sign him for the league minimum.

It's just frustrating not knowing anything.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Interesting, so now that Mike Brown's wallet's directly threatened, he will change his draft strategy.

If it works, great. Anything Mike Brown was doing previously should be changed. It's like the Seinfeld episode where George did exactly the opposite of every instinct he normally would have. That should be Mike Brown. Go up and talk to the hot blonde at the counter.

I don't know about their statement that, "the Bengals claim Thurman won't be welcomed back."

I don't know that I've ever heard that said. Marvin's simply dodged it.

I have a feeling Odell is so out of shape and screwed up, they simply do not have him in their plans. Any return to the roster would be an unexpected bonus. And if he's as bad as he was last preseason (didn't even look like the same player), he'll be lucky to keep a roster spot if he isn't 100% committed and sober.

[Nobull]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6725166

If the Bengals organization keep telling people that Odell is not welcome back and hen he does come back we look like push overs and if we cut him we lose a top tier linebacker that WILL be signed within a week of being released. If we try and trade we will get sh!t for him. Maybe he could be aa draft day sweetner for any potential trades. Is anyone else ready for the bengals to just get rid of him and move on? It would be bittersweet to say the least.

I truly think the writer of the article was quoting statements from a while ago. I still think that Thurman, if he follows the rules will be given another chance with the Bengals.

[Stripes]

I truly think the writer of the article was quoting statements from a while ago. I still think that Thurman, if he follows the rules will be given another chance with the Bengals.

Agreed.

[HairOnFire]

...if we cut him we lose a top tier linebacker that WILL be signed within a week of being released.

And what does that tell you about the double standards concerning character and the Bengals?

[jjakq27]

Interesting, so now that Mike Brown's wallet's directly threatened, he will change his draft strategy.

If it works, great. Anything Mike Brown was doing previously should be changed. It's like the Seinfeld episode where George did exactly the opposite of every instinct he normally would have. That should be Mike Brown. Go up and talk to the hot blonde at the counter.

I don't know about their statement that, "the Bengals claim Thurman won't be welcomed back."

I don't know that I've ever heard that said. Marvin's simply dodged it.

I have a feeling Odell is so out of shape and screwed up, they simply do not have him in their plans. Any return to the roster would be an unexpected bonus. And if he's as bad as he was last preseason (didn't even look like the same player), he'll be lucky to keep a roster spot if he isn't 100% committed and sober.

Your continued hatred or bitterness towards Mike Brown simply amazes me. Odell signed a s**t rookie contract so getting rid of him won't affect the team that much.

As far as the question goes, I would be surprised if Odell comes back to the Bengals. Every bit of info coming from the team over the last 8 months regarding Odell has not been very positive at all. Nothing that you could read into that would make me believe that the Bengals will allow him to return.

Also, doesn't he have to apply for reinstatement first? How do we know if he is clean and sober or has been a good boy.

And if we do release him, I will use the Chris Henry analogy. He can't help you if he gets benched or gets suspended again. Let him be someone else's problem. I am willing to take that chance.

[HairOnFire]

Your continued hatred or bitterness towards Mike Brown simply amazes me. Odell signed a s**t rookie contract so getting rid of him won't affect the team that much.

I hate to defend Kid Steakhouse, but I'm guessing his remark about Mike Brown's wallet being threatened has nothing to do with Odell's contract, and everything to do with Roger Godell's grandstanding threat to take away draft picks or fine teams who willingly draft known character risks.

[Stripes]

Your continued hatred or bitterness towards Mike Brown simply amazes me. Odell signed a s**t rookie contract so getting rid of him won't affect the team that much.

I hate to defend Kid Steakhouse, but I'm guessing his remark about Mike Brown's wallet being threatened has nothing to do with Odell's contract, and everything to do with Roger Godell's grandstanding threat to take away draft picks or fine teams who willingly draft known character risks.

I never heard about that... absolutely ridiculous.

[jjakq27]

Your continued hatred or bitterness towards Mike Brown simply amazes me. Odell signed a s**t rookie contract so getting rid of him won't affect the team that much.

I hate to defend Kid Steakhouse, but I'm guessing his remark about Mike Brown's wallet being threatened has nothing to do with Odell's contract, and everything to do with Roger Godell's grandstanding threat to take away draft picks or fine teams who willingly draft known character risks.

I guess I misunderstood the comment, Hair. However, my first two sentences are two separate comments.

But if we draft another group of idiots and we lose a draft pick or two, then what does the crowd say? I think he has every right to be concerned and want to protect his picks.

$10 bucks says if we get a good group of players, either skillwise or choirboy-wise, that Marvin will get the credit. If not, Mike will get the blame. I am not defending Mikey but it is funny to watch people around here pick the good things that Marvin does and blame MB for all of the bad stuff that happens. Like any of us really know what's going on inside PBS anyway.

[schnarfer]

Interesting, so now that Mike Brown's wallet's directly threatened, he will change his draft strategy.

If it works, great. Anything Mike Brown was doing previously should be changed. It's like the Seinfeld episode where George did exactly the opposite of every instinct he normally would have. That should be Mike Brown. Go up and talk to the hot blonde at the counter.

I don't know about their statement that, "the Bengals claim Thurman won't be welcomed back."

I don't know that I've ever heard that said. Marvin's simply dodged it.

I have a feeling Odell is so out of shape and screwed up, they simply do not have him in their plans. Any return to the roster would be an unexpected bonus. And if he's as bad as he was last preseason (didn't even look like the same player), he'll be lucky to keep a roster spot if he isn't 100% committed and sober.

We hear that odell is "coming along well" and continuing to be doing everything the bengals ask to return to the field and then yhis trport comes out and all of that former PR on Odell is now out the window. They have a plan for LB this season with what they know now, so why not explain that to the fans. Give us a focking nibble of whats going on so we can analyse it and give you a biased opion. Why?....Why so cruel?

[bengalsfansince68]

I have never heard anything from the Bengals saying that Odell will not be welcomed back. Marvin has repeatedly said that Odell is not here and he won't talk about him.

Sounds like more BS from Rupert Murdoch's hypocritical empire!

[Thurmanation]

I have never heard anything from the Bengals saying that Odell will not be welcomed back. Marvin has repeatedly said that Odell is not here and he won't talk about him.

Sounds like more BS from Rupert Murdoch's hypocritical empire!

Ditto

He'll be back next year, i can almost gaurentee it.

Starting..thats another question..

[ArmyBengal]

Marvin has repeatedly said Odell is not a consideration in regards to this team for the past 8 plus months. Marvin has been pissed at Odell ever since. Odell can't apply for reinstatement until June of this year. Odell has been out of football for d*mn near 2 years. One more slip and he's gone from football for good. I've never seen anything about Odell doing what the Bengals have asked him to do.

That being said, he won't cost the Bengals that much and last year didn't count at all against his rookie contract. I do believe the Bengals will give him one more chance, but to think he will come in and have any type of huge impact is nothing more than wishful thinking at this point. Why would anyone believe any different and what do you have to base that opinion on ?? I would REALLY like to see it.

It also wouldn't suprise me to see him not come back, but regardless of how my post sounds, I'm still rooting for Odell and wish him nothing but good things !!!

WHODEY !!!

[bengal4life]

I know it's been awhile and we've been speculating about this for 8+ months, but look at the brighter side we only have a month to a month and a half to find out if the alcoholic will returns as a bengal.

I for one hope he does return.

[TJJackson]

If he's 100% turned around, I'd love to see him back.....but that said, I don't think he has turned around 100%, and I don't think he'll be back, even in a limited role

[agreen_112]

If he's 100% turned around, I'd love to see him back.....but that said, I don't think he has turned around 100%, and I don't think he'll be back, even in a limited role

What makes you think he hasn't turned around 100%? Just because he came out publicly before and said that he would do better, that he was litterally on edge and he wouldn't screw up again... then weeks later he gets a DUI.... I think not only will he be back, He'll make a huge impact compared to the starters of last season and he will eventually start!

1. He's a BEAST

2. He's cheap

3. He's had a year to reflect and take the punishment, It won't happen again.

4. He's better than any current LB on our roster

5. His rookie year was awesome, imagine what his next couple will be like. (Can someone say Pro-Bowl?)

6. Did I mention he's a Beast?

He'll 100% most definitely be back in stripes this year!!! The writer's a dumb-dumb!

[Walrus]

Your continued hatred or bitterness towards Mike Brown simply amazes me. Odell signed a s**t rookie contract so getting rid of him won't affect the team that much.

I hate to defend Kid Steakhouse, but I'm guessing his remark about Mike Brown's wallet being threatened has nothing to do with Odell's contract, and everything to do with Roger Godell's grandstanding threat to take away draft picks or fine teams who willingly draft known character risks.

I never heard about that... absolutely ridiculous.

That's something I don't understand and haven't heard much discussion about. I support Goodell's "crackdown" and the idea of taking measures against guys who want to use their status as NFL players to finance their criminal activities -- but -- these threats against teams who "draft known character risks" make me uncomfortable. How can a team know the guy they're drafting will get arrested? The Bengals took Johnathan Joseph in favor of Jimmy Williams even though most projections had Williams solidly ahead of Joseph in the top 20. Now it's Joseph who got arrested and the Falcons get a pass for drafting "character risk" Jimmy Williams. I just don't feel good about Goodell leveling fines on teams for something that is IMPOSSIBLE to predict or control with any certainty. The NFL has a say over who is elegible to be drafted -- if they truly feel a player is likely to hurt the league's reputation WHY LET THEM BE DRAFTED AT ALL? Make it easy by taking them off everyone's board.

[hrod382]

I truly think the writer of the article was quoting statements from a while ago. I still think that Thurman, if he follows the rules will be given another chance with the Bengals.

Agreed.

Thirded.

Seriously there's no way he gets cut or traded. He'll start out 3rd string or whatever like last year and be given the chance to earn his way back.

[HairOnFire]

The NFL has a say over who is elegible to be drafted -- if they truly feel a player is likely to hurt the league's reputation WHY LET THEM BE DRAFTED AT ALL? Make it easy by taking them off everyone's board.

Hoosier and I kicked this one around a little while back, and rather predictably we reached no agreement.

Regardless, my point was that if the NFL took official action preventing players from being included then it would be an actionable offense that wouldn't stand up to a legal challenge. Hoosier countered by suggesting that the NFL would essentially come to a good old boy agreement that side-stepped the need for official action.

In short, the owners would engage in yet another act of collusion....and for an example of this you simply have to look at the currently extinct practice of adding expensive poison pills to player contracts. Everyone except the players union has agreed that the practice is bad for the game so it's no longer being done...and things will probably remain that way until some owner determines that a poison pill is the final step needed to acquire a coveted player he simply has to have. But the good old boy argument is a valid one if for no other reason than the fact that nobody does collusion quite as well, or as often, as the NFL.

Back to the draft, the question that remains is if owners can resist the temptation to refrain completely from drafting a player like Marcus Thomas or if the NFL's new hard-line stance simply means that the risk/reward debate has shifted but remains fundamentally unchanged.

[GregCook]

I've been harsh on Odell but no man at his age deserves banishment. Presumably he's taken what the NFL forced him to eat and smiled the entire time. Now its his time to show he's all grown up and ready to be an NFL player. Most NFL players never encounter the police or behave in a way demanding a sanction. So Odell could have a productive, long career even though he has no more NFL lives to give. Given the high injury toll from a season, I think the Bengals could use a healthy Odell sometime around November in the midst of a playoff run.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Your continued hatred or bitterness towards Mike Brown simply amazes me. Odell signed a s**t rookie contract so getting rid of him won't affect the team that much.

I hate to defend Kid Steakhouse, but I'm guessing his remark about Mike Brown's wallet being threatened has nothing to do with Odell's contract, and everything to do with Roger Godell's grandstanding threat to take away draft picks or fine teams who willingly draft known character risks.

Exactly, sorry for not clarifying.

[TJJackson]

The writer's a dumb-dumb!

Considering the source, a high compliment to me. Thank you.

[agreen_112]

The writer's a dumb-dumb!

Considering the source, a high compliment to me. Thank you.

Not you, the writer of the link....

[ArmyBengal]

Thinking Odell will be anything more than depth at this point = Mad Homerism...

WHODEY !!!