Monday Combine

[DuffMan]

Okoye benched 225lbs 29 times - should help his stock

Branch - 33

Carriker- 33

Charles Johnson - 33

Tim Crowder - 32 (40 yard dash - 4.69)

Anthony Spencer - 30

Tank Tyler - 42 (!!!) He slimmed down too didn't he?

Dan Bazuin - 25 (40 yard dash - 4.77)

[ShulaSteakhouse]

29 isn't "bad," but for a DT, he should be at least in the low-mid 30's if he's a top 25 pick IMO.

Hell Brady Quinn had 24 reps I believe.

I would like to see the Bengals' get an Adams' replacement - someone who can anchor that d-line in the middle for years to come.

Just don't know if they're going to find that at #18 in this particular draft.

[Stripes]

Can't help but like what the Tank was able to do on the bench. Carriker probably improved his stock even more as well.

[Kazkal]

Any weights and hts? 29 isen't that impressive it's above average but not impressive...kalil doing 34 was impressive as 295 lb center which at time was tied for 3rd.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Kalil looked great in all his drills. He made some dough last week.

Of course, if it were me, I'd draft him at #18, because I believe in drafting day one 0-lineman every single year.

[Kazkal]

Group 7 (DL) -- Top 10 Results: 40-Yard Dash

1. Gaines Adams Clemson 4.64

2. Jacob Ford Central Arkansas 4.65

3. Baraka Atkins Miami (Fla.) 4.69

4. Tim Crowder Texas 4.69

5. C.J. Ah You Oklahoma 4.70

6. Antwan Applewhite San Diego St. 4.73

7. Justin Hickman UCLA 4.75

8. Dan Bazuin Central Michigan 4.77

9. Victor Degrate Oklahoma St. 4.77

10. Victor Abiamiri Notre Dame 4.80

Group 9 (LB) -- Final Results: Bench

Jonathan Abbate Wake Forest 26

Rufus Alexander Oklahoma 25

Antwan Barnes Florida Int. 31

Jon Beason Miami (Fla.) 19

Desmond Bishop Cal-Berkeley 33

Quincy Black New Mexico 24

H.B. Blades Pittsburgh 22

Stewart Bradley Nebraska 28

Prescott Burgess Michigan 19

Quinton Culberson Mississippi St. 18

James Davis Florida St. 24

Zak Deossie Brown 26

Justin Durant Hampton 25

Earl Everett Florida 19

David Harris Michigan 23

Nate Harris Louisville 26

Rory Johnson Mississippi 19

Zach Latimer Oklahoma 19

Marvin Mitchell Tennessee 22

Stephen Nicholas South Florida 29

Chad Nkang Elon 23

Michael Okwo Stanford 20

Sam Olajubutu Arkansas 24

Blair Phillips Oregon 23

Paul Poslusky Penn St. 22

Dallas Sartz Southern Cal 20

Tim Shaw Penn St. 26

Juwan Simpson Alabama 15

Kelvin Smith Syracuse 26

Tony Taylor Georgia 26

Lawrence Timmons Florida St. 25

Justin Warren Texas A&M 16

Anthony Waters Clemson 25

Patrick Willis Mississippi 22

Group 8 (DL) -- Final Results: Bench

Xzavie Jackson Missouri 18

Antonio Johnson Mississippi St. 28

Charles Johnson Georgia 33

Derek Landri Notre Dame 24

Ryan McBean Oklahoma St. 27

Claude McBride Tennessee 27

Brandon Mebane Cal-Berkeley 24

Jay Moore Nebraska 26

Quentin Moses Georgia 17

Jarvis Moss Florida 16

Amobi Okoye Louisville 29

David Patterson Ohio St. 21

Jay Richardson Ohio St. 20

Brian Robison Texas 27

Cliff Ryan Michigan St. 25

Anthony Spencer Purdue 30

Marcus Thomas Florida 27

Matt Toeaina Oregon 26

Tank Tyler North Carolina St. 42

Abraham Wright Colorado 24

Group 7 (DL) -- Final Results: Bench

Victor Abiamiri Notre Dame 25

C.J. Ah You Oklahoma 26

Antwan Applewhite San Diego St. 25

Baraka Atkins Miami (Fla.) 22

Dan Bazuin Central Michigan 25

Larry Birdine Oklahoma 21

Alan Branch Michigan 33

Larry Brown Oklahoma St. 22

Mkristo Bruce Washington St. 21

Noland Burchette Virginia Tech 15

Adam Carriker Nebraska 33

Jeremy Clark Alabama 29

Joe Cohen Florida 34

Tim Crowder Texas 32

Victor Degrate Oklahoma St. 19

Quintin Echols Kansas St. 25

Jacob Ford Central Arkansas 19

Justin Harrell Tennessee 24

Justin Hickman UCLA 23

Keith Jackson Arkansas 33

[schweinhart]

Considering the long arms Okoye has, his reps were pretty impressive. But Tank turned it on. Still needs the bro bra but he looked more like mid-season form than he did at the Senior Bowl.

Jarvis Moss and a svelte Gaines Adams did what they needed to do to show they can play space and both will benefit from consideration by teams of different bases. Moss looked more ready to play space in the positional drills than I expected. He showed his strength ? with a poor shoing on the bench but at least he did it unlike Gaines who probably wouldn't have fared any better. The no-show by Jamaal Anderson doesn't help him.

Some Lbs made some money. Desmond Bishop and Quincy Black looked great and Black scorched the track. Not great upper body strength but he's added a chunk since the Senior Bowl to get at 240. Black easily had the best feet of all the LBs from what I saw. Willis solidifed himself as a mid 1st rounder IMO as did Timmons and Poz ran well enough even though he still looked to stiff and awkard in drills to look the part of a NFL WSLB. Antwan Barnes put up some ridiculous measurables but he might not be viewed as anything more than another Terna Nande.

The big losers in my book so far were Earl Everett, Quentin Moses, Rory Johnson and Prescott Burgess.

Brian Robison tore everything up and should be a Day 1 pick.

[DuffMan]

I guess being 6'2 302lbs and benching 225lbs 29 times isnt impressive for a 19 year-old

[Stripes]

I guess being 6'2 302lbs and benching 225lbs 29 times isnt impressive for a 19 year-old

Not impressive as compared to the other highly projected DTs. Not surprising either though.

[hrod382]

Willis and his 4.49 sure helped his stock out. He can start getting packed for Buffalo or St. Louis.

I expected more out of Timmons (not that he was a slouch).

Tomorrow is what I'm looking forward to.

[HairOnFire]

Antonio Johnson Mississippi St. 28

I still like this guy as a DT who has some upside but one who could be drafted on the 2nd day. He jumped out at me when I was watching the Senior Bowl practices and he looked pretty good running the 40 and in the change of direction drills.

[Kazkal]

What did timmons run

[Stripes]

What did timmons run

I believe a 4.59 unofficial.

[Kazkal]

Atleast hunley is getting a close veiw!

willis 4.49? damn what was his vert ?

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Koslowski, Shaw, Black, Timmons and Robison at LB really made waves.

Robison should be there in the 2nd, which may be too high for him. Best vert in the entire combine, wow. Along with a 4'66 forty.

I love Timmons also as an OLB here.

With this group I think you can wait til the 2nd round to get a LB, and get a guy who can start next season.

So no Okoye, Willis or LB's in the 1st round for me so far.

[Kazkal]

alot postions look be deep in 2nd...just gimme the best S,Cb,LB or "shudder" DT in rnd 1 then a different postion bpa in rnd 2 and call me good

Bengals | Team meets with Burgess

Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:20:14 -0800

During his NFL Combine interview, Michigan LB Prescott Burgess said he met with the Cincinnati Bengals.

[Stripes]

Burgess looked pretty bad at the combine... he was struggling to run above a 4.85, and didn't look much better in the change of direction drills.

[Spor_tees]

Koslowski, Shaw, Black, Timmons and Robison at LB really made waves.

Robison should be there in the 2nd, which may be too high for him. Best vert in the entire combine, wow. Along with a 4'66 forty.

I love Timmons also as an OLB here.

With this group I think you can wait til the 2nd round to get a LB, and get a guy who can start next season.

So no Okoye, Willis or LB's in the 1st round for me so far.

Todd McShay said that Timmons slipped quite a bit at the combine because he measured only 6'1" when he had been listed at 6'3". He also slipped because he was supposed to run somewhere in the 4.4 range and only ran the 4.6 range. He dissappointed many because he was supposed to be a "work-out warrior"

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Geesh I got names spelled wrong and forgot Robison was a DE technically.

On Timmons, maybe that's a good thing for the Bengals, if he falls far enough to be a good value pick.

[TJJackson]

I still like Willis - but yeah, how can he now slip that far?

[schweinhart]

Willis definitely helped himself with his time but his forward speed wasn't too much in question to begin with. It does confirm it and teams should figure he can be coached enough to use what he can of it for changing directions back into drops and in reaction to passes. He brings a sure thing in his force in the middle and enough promise that he can stay on the field in passing downs for a team to pull the trigger most likely above the Bengals.

Not sure what McShay was looking for but Timmons is less a workout warrior than a two-legged blitzkrieg. All he had to do was not puke out in the 40 or the bench and he held his end of the bargain. The lower height don't help him because he does need to add some bulk to do what he was projected to do -- 3-4 OLB and SSLB. But on the whole, Timmons backed up what he is -- an explosive short area backer who gets into the backfield and can smother the flat and underneath stuff on his side.

[HairOnFire]

Todd McShay said that Timmons slipped quite a bit at the combine because he measured only 6'1" when he had been listed at 6'3". He also slipped because he was supposed to run somewhere in the 4.4 range and only ran the 4.6 range. He dissappointed many because he was supposed to be a "work-out warrior"

Yup. The Los Angeles Times has been doing daily updates from the combine and Sam Farmer, their NFL beat writer, claimed that the talk everywhere was Timmon's had hurt himself as badly as any prospect at the combine, and that was said to be true largely because of how pedestrian he looked in the actual drills...not because his body wasn't as advertised. To quote, his performance was described as a "snore".

[Kazkal]

For those hating on me because I said i wasen't impressed by DT doing 28...Chris houston CB 5'9 did 27 to me thats impressive...okoye did a good job but keyword is impressive.

[schweinhart]

Todd McShay said that Timmons slipped quite a bit at the combine because he measured only 6'1" when he had been listed at 6'3". He also slipped because he was supposed to run somewhere in the 4.4 range and only ran the 4.6 range. He dissappointed many because he was supposed to be a "work-out warrior"

Yup. The Los Angeles Times has been doing daily updates from the combine and Sam Farmer, their NFL beat writer, claimed that the talk everywhere was Timmon's had hurt himself as badly as any prospect at the combine, and that was said to be true largely because of how pedestrian he looked in the actual drills...not because his body wasn't as advertised. To quote, his performance was described as a "snore".

They'll all wake back up as soon as they put on game tape. For any one who's watched him play, Timmons is easily the most dominant point of attack OLB in this draft. His floor was already there as a 4-3 SSLB or 3-4 OLB. The question with him was where else can he play because he came in as the most likely LB physically able to play any LB position in any base in any scheme. It was only a matter of what position he would play and how verstile he is. Drills aside, they all know what he is when he drills QBs and RBs and blankets TEs out of the slot. He adds a good dimension for 4-3 defenses because he can rush wide and stay on the field as a nickel backer who can blitz or slot cover TE. Timmons is a demon on the field.

[Kazkal]

Timmons would be nice.