HoosierCat Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 kffl...Bears | Rivera not renewed, team likely to promote BabichMon, 19 Feb 2007 11:47:12 -0800Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Chicago Bears have opted not to renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, leaving one of the top defensive minds in the game without a job. The team wanted to pursue a long-term plan for the position due to Rivera's candidacy for numerous head coaching positions and head coach Lovie Smith felt the need to move in a different direction sooner rather than later. Smith will likely promote linebackers coach Bob Babich to the newly-vacated defensive coordinator position.Sheesh...lead one of the best D's in the league...get shown the door. Yet Breshnahan still has a job...That's f**ked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 wow noy sure if I wanna see bengals go after him if bengals dumped him that or he wanted more pay and bears are fing cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Damn, nobody saw that coming.Now we wait for numerous "Fire Bresnahan, sign Ron!" threads to explode all over the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 It reminds me of Chuck actually... rivera will probbley be brought in to be chucks assistiant then...chuck gets fired riv gets job and we start calling for his head and why did we take bears garbage that they diden't even want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 It reminds me of Chuck actually... rivera will probbley be brought in to be chucks assistiant then...chuck gets fired riv gets job and we start calling for his head and why did we take bears garbage that they diden't even want.And the Bengals will lose a Superbowl, release Rivera, and the cycle will repeat elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 It reminds me of Chuck actually... rivera will probbley be brought in to be chucks assistiant then...chuck gets fired riv gets job and we start calling for his head and why did we take bears garbage that they diden't even want.And the Bengals will lose a Superbowl, release Rivera, and the cycle will repeat elsewhere. Damn nice Tas Tas...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Damn nice Tas Tas...... Thanks, the surgeon told me the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Brooks21 Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 kffl...Bears | Rivera not renewed, team likely to promote BabichMon, 19 Feb 2007 11:47:12 -0800Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Chicago Bears have opted not to renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, leaving one of the top defensive minds in the game without a job. The team wanted to pursue a long-term plan for the position due to Rivera's candidacy for numerous head coaching positions and head coach Lovie Smith felt the need to move in a different direction sooner rather than later. Smith will likely promote linebackers coach Bob Babich to the newly-vacated defensive coordinator position.Sheesh...lead one of the best D's in the league...get shown the door. Yet Breshnahan still has a job...That's f**ked up. If you truly watch the games the Bengals are in position to make plays they just don't. The only game where I saw Breshnahan put the defense in bad situations was the Indy game. The Bengals fail to tackle, fail to stay in their gaps and failed this year to make plays on the ball when it's in the air. That's personnel problems not defensive coordinator problems, players make plays. Bad technique destroys the best of coaching, what we should be calling for is to replace some of those underacheiving players we have out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnarfer Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Why the Bears would let go of there DC is beyond me.The level he brings is intense. With him shoring up or D..we could be scary good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Because he was not as good as outsiders thought ala chuck was let go from the raiders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Chuck was never good with the raiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 kffl...Bears | Rivera not renewed, team likely to promote BabichMon, 19 Feb 2007 11:47:12 -0800Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Chicago Bears have opted not to renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, leaving one of the top defensive minds in the game without a job. The team wanted to pursue a long-term plan for the position due to Rivera's candidacy for numerous head coaching positions and head coach Lovie Smith felt the need to move in a different direction sooner rather than later. Smith will likely promote linebackers coach Bob Babich to the newly-vacated defensive coordinator position.Sheesh...lead one of the best D's in the league...get shown the door. Yet Breshnahan still has a job...That's f**ked up. If you truly watch the games the Bengals are in position to make plays they just don't. The only game where I saw Breshnahan put the defense in bad situations was the Indy game. The Bengals fail to tackle, fail to stay in their gaps and failed this year to make plays on the ball when it's in the air. That's personnel problems not defensive coordinator problems, players make plays. Bad technique destroys the best of coaching, what we should be calling for is to replace some of those underacheiving players we have out there.The Patriots, Chargers and Colts took Chuckie to the woodshed and beat him like a silly little school boy.I don't want that kind of coordinator. They are not that far away from being a good defense, probably 3-4 guys tops, or at least two play makers at LB/CB/DE away. And Pollack is not a factor next year, as he'd be lucky to be cleared by October supposably.IF they get Odell and Deltha back in their 2005 form, add a FA and a draft pick or two - things could look pretty rosy back there.Then no more Chuckie excuses if his team comes up lame 3 years in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmanation Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Chuck was never good with the raidersAnything is better then chuck..DENNIS GREEN FOR D.C lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 That's personnel problems not defensive coordinator problems, players make plays. Bad technique destroys the best of coaching, what we should be calling for is to replace some of those underacheiving players we have out there.You won't get any argument from me that the D lacks talent. But "bad technique" doesn't destroy coaching, bad technique is what coaching is supposed to correct.As for Bresh, he's nothing special. He appears to know about one blitz, and uses it over and over. He is constantly out-adjusted at halftime (as is the whole team, all too usually). And neither he nor, in fact, the whole defensive staff have shown me much evidence they can develop players one bit.Madieu regressed last season. Ratliff has never amounted to anything, ditto Greg Brooks. They wasted Geathers for a year trying to turn him into Carl Powell. Justin Smith has spent four of his six years under Marvin and his staff and is still the same player with the same moves (or lack thereof) they drafted in '01. Askew never got on the field. Landon and Miller haven't been able to hold a starting job. Odell went his whole rookie season without, apparently, the words "gap control" being spoken to him. Pollack never impressed me at OLB and I still think they'd be better served putting him back at DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 I'm not going to bother getting my hopes up on this one. It's too un-Bengallike to pursue top coaches or FA's that aren't desperate for a job and come to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Brooks21 Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2771716Updated: Feb. 19, 2007, 10:35 PM ETRivera joins the Chargers as linebackers coachBy John ClaytonESPN.comChicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera may have lost out to Norv Turner for the chance to be San Diego's head coach, but the Chargers got the best of all worlds.Rivera accepted a job to be a linebackers coach hours after learning his contract would not be extended by the Bears. For the Chargers, general manager A.J. Smith and Turner, it was a major coup in trying to move closer to a championship run.After what was considered an excellent interview for the head coaching job, Rivera told the Chargers and Turner he was willing to discuss a position on the staff. Turner hired Ted Cottrell as the defensive coordinator, but Rivera was an object of private discussions all day.For Rivera, the idea of joining the Chargers was another way to improve his stock for a future head coaching job. Rivera was defensive coordinator of a Super Bowl team, but he was pigeonholed in some ways. He was considered a 4-3 defensive specialist and so many of the openings this year wanted coaches with 3-4 experience.The Chargers liked the idea of bringing in Rivera to help improve their third-and-long package along with coaching the linebackers. Coming from a 4-3 scheme, Rivera can offer suggestions to improve the third-down pass rush. Most 3-4 teams go to a four-man line in third-and-long situations. Plus, Rivera could enhance his resume this season by learning the 3-4. He's had eight interviews for head coaching jobs but has not been able to secure one. Getting the 3-4 experience might be the edge he needs to get a 2008 head coaching job in what is expected to be a wide-open market.Rivera will work with John Pagano, a linebacker coach who is currently under contract and expected to stay. The Chargers like having two linebacker coaches. Earliers this month they lost linebacker coach Greg Manusky, who joined the San Francisco 49ers as the defensive coordinator.In getting Rivera, the Chargers believe they put a cap on what was an important day in getting ready for the 2007 season.John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com. That kills it for all you guys who wanted us to get him. It's about the players making plays, not about the defensive coordinator. You can only do so much with subpar talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 The Chargers have brought in Rivera to take over as the linebackers coach.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2771716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 That's personnel problems not defensive coordinator problems, players make plays. Bad technique destroys the best of coaching, what we should be calling for is to replace some of those underacheiving players we have out there.Odell went his whole rookie season without, apparently, the words "gap control" being spoken to him. And that is how I became named what I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Brooks21 Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 The Patriots, Chargers and Colts took Chuckie to the woodshed and beat him like a silly little school boy.I don't want that kind of coordinator. They are not that far away from being a good defense, probably 3-4 guys tops, or at least two play makers at LB/CB/DE away. And Pollack is not a factor next year, as he'd be lucky to be cleared by October supposably.IF they get Odell and Deltha back in their 2005 form, add a FA and a draft pick or two - things could look pretty rosy back there.Then no more Chuckie excuses if his team comes up lame 3 years in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 That's personnel problems not defensive coordinator problems, players make plays. Bad technique destroys the best of coaching, what we should be calling for is to replace some of those underacheiving players we have out there.You won't get any argument from me that the D lacks talent. But "bad technique" doesn't destroy coaching, bad technique is what coaching is supposed to correct.As for Bresh, he's nothing special. He appears to know about one blitz, and uses it over and over. He is constantly out-adjusted at halftime (as is the whole team, all too usually). And neither he nor, in fact, the whole defensive staff have shown me much evidence they can develop players one bit.Madieu regressed last season. Ratliff has never amounted to anything, ditto Greg Brooks. They wasted Geathers for a year trying to turn him into Carl Powell. Justin Smith has spent four of his six years under Marvin and his staff and is still the same player with the same moves (or lack thereof) they drafted in '01. Askew never got on the field. Landon and Miller haven't been able to hold a starting job. Odell went his whole rookie season without, apparently, the words "gap control" being spoken to him. Pollack never impressed me at OLB and I still think they'd be better served putting him back at DE.I'd take it a step further - it's not that Bresnehan is out-adjusted at halftime. It's that his theory goes that the best defense is the simplest, and adjustments *shouldn't be made* to a proper game plan. Remember the second half of the IND game where he was going up and down the sideline extolling his defense that if they just believe in the scheme that it would work? That would be where I started throwing crap at my TV and screaming "No it WONT, Chuck, your scheme doesn't &(**)()_#$#ing work, it's broken!!!!"He's an idiot. I'd go so far as to say he's the anti-Belichick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 More "props" for the Bears -- now the talks to extend Lovie have broken down.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2774459Wow. And I thought the Bengals front office was f**ked up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 All he did was play in the Superbowl. Coaches that can do that come a dime a dozen, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 The Bears are cheaper than the Bengals. Give the guy $5 mill a year, he deserves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 The Bears are cheaper than the Bengals. Give the guy $5 mill a year, he deserves itThey finally broke down and did. Fox says a deal got done today, 4 years, $22.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Lovie Smith is paid less than Chris Kelsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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