kentjett Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Do you think the Bengals will make a run at him. He is considered the best blocking TE and he is under utilized in the passing game. He will get good money but I think he is worth it. He will significantly improve our pass protection, running game and passing game. If we fork out any money, this is the guy to spend it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I'd rather sign Kelly for less and get almost the same production out of the TE position. When Tab is healthy there will be no place for a pass catching TE in the Offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 After tagging Justin, they'd be hard pressed just to re-sign Tony Stewart right now. May be time to start getting used to the idea of Ronnie Ghent and Tim Day as the Bengals TEs next year. They'd have to open up the vault for Justin on a long-term deal, cut either B-Simms or Thorton or else let a few RFAs walk if other teams plunder them just to start thinking about signing a TE who'll want even Reggie Kelly money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I think the Bengals will be able to re-sign Kelly, but I agree they'll be out of the Daniel Graham sweepstakes. I don't think they were really all that interested anyways... the two are very similar players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Graham has repeatedly say he wants to be more involved in the passing game instead of just being a blocker. He won't come here if thats the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 After tagging Justin, they'd be hard pressed just to re-sign Tony Stewart right now.I don't think so. Kelly made $1,250,000 last season. I don't expect him to go after, or get, big dollars. Plus, his relationship with Palmer has me believing that money doesn't have much to do with it. Kelly will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I could see us making a run at him, I doubt he gets tony G/gates money but even them are small copared to other postions.just depends if we have 20million in capspace before justin or rumor of 28... or if we cut some dead weight like JT or Brob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Graham would be a significant upgrade to any TE we have had in a long time. He has really good hands and is a better blocker than Kelly. He is a overall better athlete. If you watch him play, he catches everything with his hands(soft hands) and blocks as well as a tackle. He is able to pull off a TE screen because of his athletic ability. I would like to see Kelly try and pull that off. That would be humerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Graham has repeatedly say he wants to be more involved in the passing game instead of just being a blocker. He won't come here if thats the caseChina doll injured. Cheech very well be suspended 2-4 games and graham being the featured TE on team he'd probbley be able get 40+ Balls since we woulden't have spread it to 3 different te's with him like we did when schobel was our leading te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 It would be nice and all, but from history we won't pursue him. He isnt over 30 years old or out of his prime yet, so there is no purpose for him yet. But I hope I am wrong, I with you Kaz, would be happy as hell if we could sign him. Im thinking like a 4 year $9 million dollar deal, which is very do able, but Mikey might not fork out the cash due to the reasons above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 After tagging Justin, they'd be hard pressed just to re-sign Tony Stewart right now.I don't think so. Kelly made $1,250,000 last season. I don't expect him to go after, or get, big dollars. Plus, his relationship with Palmer has me believing that money doesn't have much to do with it. Kelly will be back.They could get Kelly done but it depends on how long it takes him to realize that no other team is likely to pay him as much as the Bengals will. Might seem like leverage for him at first but I would doubt it turns out to be. If it were a $1.25 cap hit, which it most likely wouldn't be, the Bengals would be close to the cap.If all that's left is $10 mill after tagging Justin, that's going to be just about the amount needed to sign 6 RFAs at the lowest tender and at least a $4 mill rookie pool. Eventually, it'll take cuts, passing on a RFA or 2 or extending Justin to lower the cap at some point to do anything more than Kelly.Tagging Justin straps them pretty good. They could still make a free agent before the RFA tenders and rookie pool count toward the cap, though and worry about balancing it out later. But it sure looks like they'll have cap resrevations about signing any more more of their own UFAs much less anyone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Well they still haven't cut B-Rob, O'Neal, or Thorton yet which has talked about as real possibilities. I honestly think they would either trade O'Neal or that the cutting him talk is just that, talk in order to try and scare him a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 If all that's left is $10 mill after tagging Justin,A notable "if." There's about $5m in difference between various reports of their cap space (and big surprise -- not -- Hobson can't cite the lowest figure, espn's, enough). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 If it were a $1.25 cap hitI'd take a $1.25 cap hit ANY DAY! "Here's your signing bonus, $1.25." Over two seasons? Three quarters. Not bad. If we can't re-sign Reggie Kelly, we're in some serious trouble. Anyway, I think you're being very gracious with Kelly, other teams, and money demands. Simply put, I really don't believe Reggie Kelly will ask for anything that would prevent him from re-signing here. He seems genuinely interested in staying a Bengal. Here's things we do know however.1. No one can seem to find or calculate a consistent and accurate team cap number.2. No one knows what Reggie Kelly is actually demanding. 3. No one knows what the team will address in free agency and the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Well if we did sign graham i'd be fine keep kelly too ....but since we won't id be happy with just giving a young guy like day or ghent a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Give Reggie a two year $1.5 million deal. He would take it, he wants to be here. He knows he isnt gonna get jack on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Bengals sign scrub TE...http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5891 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Just saw that 6'8 ! start him amg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Bengals sign scrub TE...http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5891Well heck yeah! This really ought to quiet down the cries for Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Ya those 2 year contracts we all know are ment for starters and not PS fodder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Anyone besides myself think Eric Johnson would be a better pickup than Graham (not that I expect either one)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I'd be happy with either...Gregg was given 89 and is from socal so carson probbley likes him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Eric Johnson is overrated IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Kelly = mediocrityGraham = needed upgrade- Which option do you think the Bengals' will pursue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 If it were a $1.25 cap hitI'd take a $1.25 cap hit ANY DAY! "Here's your signing bonus, $1.25." Over two seasons? Three quarters. Not bad. That might be the high bidder for Kelly But what he does he does halfway decent, just not much of a receiving TE.The question I have is do the Bengals have any cap room to pursue any UFAs right now be it Klly, Graham or Eric Johnson. I'd rather see them sign an experienced TE rather than rely on PS fodder or a draft pick.....unless that pick is Zach Miller or Ben Patrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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