HairOnFire Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 No one is against them signing their own FAs. But the point is, they've done it. Really, there's no one left to spend big bucks on or extend right now -- unless you count Steinbach or Smith, and it appears that most people (yourself included) are prepared to howl if they get the coin they're asking. I'd howl for awhile before calming myself with the knowledge that the Bengals overspent for solid football players. That said, you're right...if the Bengals can't re-sign Smith or Steinbach to reasonable long term contracts I'd prefer they not be re-signed at all. Instead, I'd split the money Smith and Steinbach demand amongst 4 or 5 lesser free agents that would fill 4 or 5 holes. Most others seem to prefer a strategy where the money not paid to Smith and Steinbach is pooled and then thrown at one free agent...a strategy I can support in theory, but not very strongly without knowing who the coveted player is. Fair enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Granted, they could abandon that strategy any year it suits them, but they do so at the risk of not being in solid shape in future years.Again, only if they go hog wild, which I'm not advocating. (And even then, I'm not positive it would hurt much, given the way the cap is increasing. $109m now, it's projected to go to $120m in 2008, and some estimates are that it could leap far higher, upward of $150m, within a few years. With those kind of increases, even a profligate spender like Dan Snyder can avoid cap jail.)Who said anything about adding junk? I applauded the signing of Dexter Jackson last yearWho produced 1 less tackle, 1 more pass defensed, and 1 more sack than his unlamented predecessor, Ohalete. K2 was a better starter in '05 than Jackson. Again, color me unimpressed.That said, you're right...if the Bengals can't re-sign Smith or Steinbach to reasonable long term contracts I'd prefer they not be re-signed at all. Instead, I'd split the money Smith and Steinbach demand amongst 4 or 5 lesser free agents that would fill 4 or 5 holes. Most others seem to prefer a strategy where the money not paid to Smith and Steinbach is pooled and then thrown at one free agent...a strategy I can support in theory, but not very strongly without knowing who the coveted player is. Fair enough?Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Again, color me unimpressed. But you're always unimpressed about everything the Bengals do....especially when it comes to free agency. In truth, some of the Bengal's best free agent moves are the ones they haven't made despite your loud pleadings. (Corey Simon, Jamie Sharper, Peter Boulware, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Again, color me unimpressed. But you're always unimpressed about everything the Bengals do....especially when it comes to free agency. In truth, some of the Bengal's best free agent moves are the ones they haven't made despite your loud pleadings. (Corey Simon, Jamie Sharper, Peter Boulware, etc.) Or yours, Mr. Sign Lavar Arrington... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 No one is against them signing their own FAs. But the point is, they've done it. Really, there's no one left to spend big bucks on or extend right now -- unless you count Steinbach or Smith,Well I woulden't mind extending larson and madieu but that may just be me Who produced 1 less tackle, 1 more pass defensed, and 1 more sack than his unlamented predecessor, Ohalete. K2 was a better starter in '05 than Jackson. Again, color me unimpressed.Stat sheet...are you seriously saying theres no difference betwen DJ and Ohalete?DJ is on a team Ohalete isen't for a reason.if K2 was overall the better starter why did we not start him over dexter? I love K2 but he seems to be a great player when the starter is healthy and he gets X amount of plays rather then him being the starter himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Granted, they could abandon that strategy any year it suits them, but they do so at the risk of not being in solid shape in future years.Again, only if they go hog wild, which I'm not advocating. (And even then, I'm not positive it would hurt much, given the way the cap is increasing. $109m now, it's projected to go to $120m in 2008, and some estimates are that it could leap far higher, upward of $150m, within a few years. With those kind of increases, even a profligate spender like Dan Snyder can avoid cap jail.) That's just the point. The cap increases for every team in the NFL, and as a result don't do a thing to improve the Bengals chances when it comes to signing top shelf talent. All it really does it result in other NFL teams going from being major players in the free agent market one year to complete afterthoughts the next. And most of the teams that routinely sign high profile free agents are amongst those who occasionally lose valuable players of their own. Meanwhile, the Bengals just keep rolling along using a free agent strategy that allows them to keep nearly every important player of theirs who reaches free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 That's just the point. The cap increases for every team in the NFL, and as a result don't do a thing to improve the Bengals chances when it comes to signing top shelf talent.I didn't say anything about it improving their chances, only that it means a big signing won't put them in cap jeopardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I just wish our draftpicks could keep on the field >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroomytunes Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Well so far I like our success in keeping our own free agents from hitting the streets, but this year is a little different. We have 2 guys that are going into UFA and are going to command big bucks. Of the 2 Steinbach would be the one to re-sign, but not at 5 million per. Justin smith can be replaced a lot easier. I would rather throw that extra 10 million dollars on some guys that could make a difference in other areas of need.CB-Clements, SamuelLB-Thomas,Fletcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoTbOy Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The Bengals have been on the conservative side for way too long...Yes having the extra cap room is nice, but what they don't do anything with it...Just 1 time if they were to make a move on the 1st week of FA, we could be a totally different team, you get a PWilliams from B-lo who went to the Vikings, you get a RColvin, AWinfield, DHoward, TLaw...If we could get just 1 difference maker on the defense in FA, say if we get ASamuel in FA then maybe we don't have to use any picks on a CB maybe you get a pass catching TE or maybe get that pass ruhing DE instead, then you don't have to do things like get SAdams in FA and still draft DPeko... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 The Bengals have been on the conservative side for way too long...Yes having the extra cap room is nice, but what they don't do anything with it...That's just the thing, they do use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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