Bengalszone 1st Round Mock Draft

[BZBot]

Now that Senior Bowl week practices are kicking off and the NFL season has dwindled down to just one game left, it's time for talk about the NFL draft to heat up. The Bengals got a lot of needs as was evidenced by their flop at the end of the 2006 season but the draft brings it's promise of an impact difference maker and this year it will hopefully be someone like the huge DE from Arkansas -- Jamaal Anderson.

Source: http://www.bengalszone.com/article.php?sid=516

[HoosierCat]

Jamaal would be a fine pick. Of course, they still may fill that need in FA or by retaining Justin's services, but assuming they don't do either of those things, by all means, grab Anderson.

I wouldn't squak if the passed him over for Willis (who here is going to the Titans with the 19th pick) either.

[membengal]

Jamal will be gone within the top six or so picks. No help for the Bengals there. Patrick Willis is my heart's desire for them, at least as of now. Fantastic linebacker. Fills a need.

[schweinhart]

Jamaal Anderson sure looks like a 1st rounder and a team just might peg him high for the potential he has.

But the Bengals may even be reaching to take him at #18 since he was given a 2nd round draft projection by the NFL draft evaluation committe for underclassmen:

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2007/01/...0807uafbnfl.txt

Jamaal seemed fairly intent about staying in school right after Arkansas' bowl game and if he was after Top 10 money he probably should've stayed another year because he benefited a lot from a 5 down linemen defensive front that left him isolated with TEs a whole lot more than he'll ever see in the NFL. Hence the high sack total.

But with the JJoseph bust and maybe some suspension or worse yet the 1st of a flurry of off-field problems for Joseph, the Bengals might be better served looking at Anderson's teammate Chris Houston who apparently was given a 1st-2nd round evaluation.

Course the NFL draft evaluation committe probably doesn't consult too much with Mel Kiper or Scouts, Inc. where it sounds like the inflated rating of Anderson has come from.

I wouldn't squak if the passed him over for Willis (who here is going to the Titans with the 19th pick) either.

I don't know about MLB that high or Willis in particular bevause his strength seems like it's primarily a run defender and his questionable range in coverage might actually warrant him coming off the field in the nickel. The Bengals run D made a big stride this year and most of its had to do with keeping the front stuffed and letting the LBs cleanup, plus the improved run play from the safety position this year. If they go with a LB, I'd like to see them get 1 with either outstanding coverage skills or an accomplished blitzer. Run defending can be less than the best so long as the D-line continues to jam the line and foul up the spacing the blockers try to get to make holes.

[GregCook]

We might, before its too late, hire some scouts from Boone, Hamilton, etc county PD to do some due diligence prior to our pick. I think another due diligence test is to set our candidates down and have a reefer burning and sitting on the table. Does our lad pant like a dog? Another interview technique is to put open bottles of Lambrusco, Colt 45, Jack Daniels, Grey Goose and Patron in the interview room and observe for tell tale signs of Odell, Henry, and that other dude who never plays. Do they break into a sweat? Get tense? Ask the interviewers to leave the room?

If a D-I athlete can pass the above tests, lets put them our big board.

[BengalPimp]

Jamal will be gone within the top six or so picks.

Top 6 ? What the hell are you smokin'?

[Kazkal]

Well brady wasen't drafted to be a starter Jeanty could end up a good starter but for right now I agree....

I could see LB even if odell somehow was on the team in 2007...but if he isen't its like a must...atm pulling for Willis or timmons in rnd 1(mybe poz) then rnd 2 like siler and bishop alot.

[jditty47]

LB is where we are going with one of our first 2 picks, my guess is the first. with losing pollack and thurman that puts a dent in our plans and now we have to refill the spot with another starter, jeanty was not brought in to start and play a full game.

[membengal]

Jamal will be gone within the top six or so picks.

Top 6 ? What the hell are you smokin'?

I said Top 6 "or so". Top 10 anyway. Not smoking anything. And, taken with the appropriate grains of salt, Kiper has Andeerson 6th overall on his big board at this point. While his word is definitely not gospel, it is likely that if Kiper has him in the top 10 at this point, teams do as well. Yeah, I don't think, at this point, that he will be there when the Bengals pick.

Kiper linkage (Insider password needed)

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[schweinhart]

Jamaal's position reminds me a lot of Winston Justice from last year. Early entries with tremendous potential and a whole lot of athleticism. But like Justice, Jamaal is probably staring more at Top 6 of the 2nd round than the 1st.

The LB situation for the Bengals is definitely up in the air. With the million$ doled out to weakside backers EJ Henderson and Darryl Smith so far this off season, the Bengals are RFA pickled pretty good about the whole reward their own spiel said not too long ago. They would have to commit a bunch of money to Landon at this point and Caleb probably will also likely balk at much less than that.

It be nice if the Bengals know what kind of LB they want. At first, it was fast and light --less than 230 and guys who can run. Then last year they land a couple of big guys in Nicholson and Brooks. I'd like to see them decide what kind of LBs they're after before the go drafting one in the 1st or 2nd this year. But if they still don't know, Lawrence Timmons can probably develop the ability to play all 3 spots in the 4-3. In the 2nd, that guy would probably be Desmond Bishop. But there's a ton of solid LBs in this draft with 1st or 2nd year starting potential, all the way into Day 2.

[HairOnFire]

Is there anything more worthless than a mock draft written in January?

[schweinhart]

Is there anything more worthless than a mock draft written in January?

The only thing more worthless is the above sentence.

[HairOnFire]

Is there anything more worthless than a mock draft written in January?

The only thing more worthless is the above sentence.

A predictable response from a poster who has crafted several worthless mock drafts already.

[schweinhart]

And yet another predicatble response from a poster who doesn't stick his thingy out for mock drafts whatsoever. And for good reason.

But I will say, I like your one-liners much better than your piles of long-winded, sanctimonious horse slop.

[HairOnFire]

And yet another predicatble response from a poster who doesn't stick his thingy out for mock drafts whatsoever. And for good reason.

But I will say, I like your one-liners much better than your piles of long-winded, sanctimonious horse slop.

I'm here to please.

That said, I think you're dead wrong about my long-wided offerings being sanctimonius. To be sanctimonious is to offer hypocritcal holiness, right? Or if you prefer, to cast critical judgement on the behavior of others that you yourself engage in privately. But even a casual reader can see that while I've been dismissive of criminal behavior that harms nobody, I have also expressed my own fondness for demon weed and drink. So not once have I blamed others for doing the very things I do myself. Instead, I've openly mocked the piousness of the hand wringers and those who sit atop soap boxes and high horses.

In short, it seems clear to me that you don't know what the word sanctimonious means.

And as for sticking my thingy out with a mock draft of my own, well why would I bother engaging in an activity that I have no respect for? Wouldn't doing so demand that I engage in the type of hypocritical behavior you have disdain for but can't properly define?

Ehhh?

[schweinhart]

In short, it seems clear to me that you don't know what the word sanctimonious means.

C'mon Hair....That was a perfect 1 liner and summed up your treatise

Just caught Mike Mayock's Top DE list on the NFLN and he rates them:

1. Gaines Adams

2. Jarvis Moss

3. Quentin Moses

4. Jamaal Anderson

5. Adam Carriker

6. Victor Abiamiri

7. Anthony Spencer

8. LaMarr Woodley

9. Charles Johnson

10. Ray McDonald

Interesting comments to about Tim Crowder being a solid DE but limited to LDE in a 4-3 and a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

[HairOnFire]

In short, it seems clear to me that you don't know what the word sanctimonious means.

C'mon Hair....That was a perfect 1 liner and summed up your treatise

Uhhh, that's why I wrote it.

[schweinhart]

In short, it seems clear to me that you don't know what the word sanctimonious means.

C'mon Hair....That was a perfect 1 liner and summed up your treatise

Uhhh, that's why I wrote it.

Atta boy

Don't know if you're checking out any of the South squad Senior Bowl practice on the NFLN right now. But it's intense (or maybe worthless depending on the perspective).

[HairOnFire]

Don't know if you're checking out any of the South squad Senior Bowl practice on the NFLN right now. But it's intense (or maybe worthless depending on the perspective).

Well, I'm at work right now. Or more accurately, I'm not working but I'm stuck at my job...so no, I'm not watching the practice. But I did watch the coverage this morning before I left, I set the Tivo to record the mid-day stuff, and if it doesn't I'll catch the recap tonight.

And no, I don't consider the programming to be worthless as the coverage doesn't bother trying to determine exactly where a player will be drafted months before the combines, pro days, or free agency changes the needs of teams.

Fair enough?

[Spain]

The footballisimo says! When has a first rounder made a serious impact on this team the first year? Forget the draft. A bunch of Spains with talent that some will mature and some wont! Stop puritasim and get high!

[BengalPimp]

Jamal will be gone within the top six or so picks.

Top 6 ? What the hell are you smokin'?

I said Top 6 "or so". Top 10 anyway. Not smoking anything. And, taken with the appropriate grains of salt, Kiper has Andeerson 6th overall on his big board at this point. While his word is definitely not gospel, it is likely that if Kiper has him in the top 10 at this point, teams do as well.

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You forgot to mention that Kiper changes his picks more often that he changes his underwear !!!!

[El Tigere]

I would like to see them Draft

rnd 1 DE

rnd 2 DT

rnd 4 S

rnd 5 QB

rnd 6 DT

rnd 7 CB

With the salary cap at under 25 mil we should be able to sign some free agents.

Sign LB Adalius Thomas, CB Asante Samuel and TE Daniel Grahm ( Yes we can afford to sign all 3)

By Cutting LB Brian Simmons , DT John Thornton and DE Bryan Robinson you add another 8-9 mil to use in free agency.

Let Justin Smith and Eric Steinbach walk.

You can replace Justin with Frostee Rucker, Robert Geathers and the 1st round draft pick would be a nice rotation.

You can replace Eric with Andrew Whitworth

Resign

LB Landon Johnson - Back up

LB Calib Miller- Back up

TE Reggie Kelly

T Stacy Andrews- Back up

G Scott Kooistra- Back up

S Kevin Kaesviharn- Back up

P Kyle Larson

QB Anthony Wright Back up

DE Jonathan Fanene Back up

[membengal]

Jamal will be gone within the top six or so picks.

Top 6 ? What the hell are you smokin'?

I said Top 6 "or so". Top 10 anyway. Not smoking anything. And, taken with the appropriate grains of salt, Kiper has Andeerson 6th overall on his big board at this point. While his word is definitely not gospel, it is likely that if Kiper has him in the top 10 at this point, teams do as well.

Kiper linkage (Insider password needed)

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/col...&id=2739168

You forgot to mention that Kiper changes his picks more often that he changes his underwear !!!!

Apparently your reading comprehension skills are rather short bus. That's why I said "taken with appropriate grains of salt" and "his word is definitely not gospel". But I offered Kiper to address your incredulousness at the notion that he might be off the board in the top 10. He might. It's not far-fetched. After workouts, the senior bowl, etc., we will know more, but to say for sure where anyone is going at this point is insane. All I am saying is that Anderson may be valued a LOT higher than some of you have him.

I will type slower for you in the future, bengalpimp.

[Stripes]

Given his combination of size and athleticism, Anderson is a prime candidate to rocket up the board into top six consideration by the time we hit draft day. To say that ANY projection at this point is stupid is rather ignorant. I agree with membengal.

[schweinhart]

Well I'd stop short of saying Jamaal won't be a Top 10 pick because he is a prime candidate to improve upon the 2nd round evaluation that he was given by the NFL committee of scouts, coaches and a GM or 2 (and maybe Mel if he was invited).

But I agree with the Pimp on one thing....Mel will change his mind directly (but definitely not his hair because that doo is money). And when Mel changes his mind, his followers can change their minds with him since although his word is not gospel, he is hands down the Jack Van Impe of the mocksters and his hair is right up there too.

The Senior Bowl does have some impact on Jamaal but his draft future is largely in his hands. One similarly sized DE who looks like he's helping himself tremendously if Adam Carriker. I haven't seen an OT yet in 1-1 drills who can handle him for any length of time. Now I wasn't all that impressed with Carriker at either DE or kicked down to DT vs. the likes of USC, Texas and Oklahoma but the more I see of him in space the better I think he will be as a 3-4 DE, which is also the likelier position for Jamaal to get looked at 1st rather than a 4-3 DE at least early with more explosive RDEs ahead of him in Gaines Adams and Jarvis Moss.