TJJackson Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 In honor of his Perry's "game-changing", "game-breaking", "big-play" first play of the game versus the Ravens, I hereby name him for the week "One Carry Perry", because the difference of that one single carry meant the difference between a win and a loss when the game ended.ALL HAILCHRIS"ONE-CARRY"PERRY(and I think we all slug back a stiff drink now to kill the pain......) What a great, great running back. Simpy fabulous. Amazing. Here and I was mad he was hurt all the time, turns out we are actually better off (on the field, not at the bank) when he is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yeah lets blame it all on Chris Perry for his fumble..Lets forget that this team was 1-10 on third down conversions while letting McNair roam freely to complete 6-15 of his own..Lets forget that Sam Adams couldnt catch someone's gramma if she scrambled more than 3 feet.Lets forget that half of Palmer's throws are high ..one resulting in a touchdown yesterday.Lets forget that this team has scored ONE touchdown in the third quarter and have been outscored 43-22 in the fourth quarter this year.Chris Perry screwed up but this team has so many screwups anymore that one fumble is not the reason that they are 11-10 since starting last season 4-0...Can our offense be any more predictable.. Everytime I see Palmer checkoff I Knew it was a running play and it was.Everytime this team gets into a third down situation on defense they become passive instead of aggresive with blitzes ...They are playing not to lose instead of aggresively playing to win.The coaching staff is getting outcoached especially after hafltime ..Too many problems to fix it this year imo..8-8 would be a Miracle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Blaming this loss on Perry is insane. Once again the coaching staff has lost the game for us. Perry isn't a return man and if he is to be one he's going to fumble the ball in his first attempts. Perry isn't a scrub, we have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball and the OC and other coaches aren't utilizing this talent correctly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Blaming this loss on Perry is insane. Once again the coaching staff has lost the game for us. Perry isn't a return man and if he is to be one he's going to fumble the ball in his first attempts. Perry isn't a scrub, we have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball and the OC and other coaches aren't utilizing this talent correctly...I agree about the coaching... Im also looking at the talent and aside from a handful of players I think the team has drafted atrouciously..Joseph, Williams, Palmer ( no brainer) and then who comes to mind as an outstanding draft pick??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Blaming this loss on Perry is insane. Once again the coaching staff has lost the game for us. Perry isn't a return man and if he is to be one he's going to fumble the ball in his first attempts. Perry isn't a scrub, we have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball and the OC and other coaches aren't utilizing this talent correctly...I agree about the coaching... Im also looking at the talent and aside from a handful of players I think the team has drafted atrouciously..Joseph, Williams, Palmer ( no brainer) and then who comes to mind as an outstanding draft pick???Levi, Chad, Housh, Henry, Odell, Whitworth, J. Johnson......... Our drafting could be better but it's not really that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riagogogoindanati Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 WTF is up with the entire O-line? More than once I saw Steiny reinforcing behind our left tackle and letting 2 ravens LB's come thru on Palmer untouched. I understand we are pretty beat up on both sides of the ball............but, come on! Our 2nd stringers have played for what.....5 weeks straight.........you'd think they would have had it down by now. Palmer needs protection and time. Without protection, Rudi will never have another 100 yrd game and forget about the time needed for Chad and Housh to get open so Palmer can pass to them. Seriously, the O-line needs to get back to the fundamentals.If I see another interview by Willie when he says "we have to protect Carson." And then he sits on his ass the entire game, I'm gonna scream!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Blaming this loss on Perry is insane. Once again the coaching staff has lost the game for us. Perry isn't a return man and if he is to be one he's going to fumble the ball in his first attempts. Perry isn't a scrub, we have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball and the OC and other coaches aren't utilizing this talent correctly...I agree about the coaching... Im also looking at the talent and aside from a handful of players I think the team has drafted atrouciously..Joseph, Williams, Palmer ( no brainer) and then who comes to mind as an outstanding draft pick???Levi, Chad, Housh, Henry, Odell, Whitworth, J. Johnson......... Our drafting could be better but it's not really that bad.Levi, Chad and Housh were here before Marvin Lewis arrived ..Odell was Not a good draft choice. talent wise maybe but he made many mistakes on the field by overpursueing and playing out of control and his character led him to be a non factor anyway.Jerimi Johnson is a good fullback but I thiink you can find a good blocking fullback in the draft any year.so that leaves Whitworth who may or may not be an all around tackle..I still say Lewis doesnt draft well.WTF is up with the entire O-line? More than once I saw Steiny reinforcing behind our left tackle and letting 2 ravens LB's come thru on Palmer untouched. I understand we are pretty beat up on both sides of the ball............but, come on! Our 2nd stringers have played for what.....5 weeks straight.........you'd think they would have had it down by now. Palmer needs protection and time. Without protection, Rudi will never have another 100 yrd game and forget about the time needed for Chad and Housh to get open so Palmer can pass to them. Seriously, the O-line needs to get back to the fundamentals.If I see another interview by Willie when he says "we have to protect Carson." And then he sits on his ass the entire game, I'm gonna scream!!!!Truth of the matter is that Steinbach is good at pulling but mediocre as a pass blocker and average run blocker...They wont sign him .. I see why now..bobbi and willie are taking this year off apparently....play like it..The two youngsters Whitworth and Bluto are playing better but are raw..All in all this line is terrible now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Blaming this loss on Perry is insane. Once again the coaching staff has lost the game for us. Perry isn't a return man and if he is to be one he's going to fumble the ball in his first attempts. Perry isn't a scrub, we have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball and the OC and other coaches aren't utilizing this talent correctly...I agree about the coaching... Im also looking at the talent and aside from a handful of players I think the team has drafted atrouciously..Joseph, Williams, Palmer ( no brainer) and then who comes to mind as an outstanding draft pick???Levi, Chad, Housh, Henry, Odell, Whitworth, J. Johnson......... Our drafting could be better but it's not really that bad.Levi, Chad and Housh were here before Marvin Lewis arrived ..Odell was Not a good draft choice. talent wise maybe but he made many mistakes on the field by overpursueing and playing out of control and his character led him to be a non factor anyway.Jerimi Johnson is a good fullback but I thiink you can find a good blocking fullback in the draft any year.so that leaves Whitworth who may or may not be an all around tackle..I still say Lewis doesnt draft well.Your insane, look at all the guys he drafted in Baltimore on defense. I'm sure he had something to do with a few of those pickups. Face it god hates cincy, we have the worst luck possible IE Pollack, Odell, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 All Hail One Carry PerryMay he never get more than one carry a game from now on...we can't afford any more of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Blaming this loss on Perry is insane. Once again the coaching staff has lost the game for us. Perry isn't a return man and if he is to be one he's going to fumble the ball in his first attempts. Perry isn't a scrub, we have a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball and the OC and other coaches aren't utilizing this talent correctly...I agree about the coaching... Im also looking at the talent and aside from a handful of players I think the team has drafted atrouciously..Joseph, Williams, Palmer ( no brainer) and then who comes to mind as an outstanding draft pick???Levi, Chad, Housh, Henry, Odell, Whitworth, J. Johnson......... Our drafting could be better but it's not really that bad.Levi, Chad and Housh were here before Marvin Lewis arrived ..Odell was Not a good draft choice. talent wise maybe but he made many mistakes on the field by overpursueing and playing out of control and his character led him to be a non factor anyway.Jerimi Johnson is a good fullback but I thiink you can find a good blocking fullback in the draft any year.so that leaves Whitworth who may or may not be an all around tackle..I still say Lewis doesnt draft well.Your insane, look at all the guys he drafted in Baltimore on defense. I'm sure he had something to do with a few of those pickups. Face it god hates cincy, we have the worst luck possible IE Pollack, Odell, ect.No Lewis did not put together the Baltimore defense .. Ozzie Newsome did and still does.. Lewis may have had an opinnion as the Raven scouts do but Ozzie is the one that make the final decisions on the draft and free agency..the Gods have nothing to do with drafting idiots that cant stay out of trouble, undersized linebackers and hiring coaches that are not getting the job done.That fall on Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I've lost most of my faith in Marvin since this past off-season and the end of last season when his team tanked and could beat a decent team to save their life, added to all the other issues.They've now lost 4 of 5, and all we hear from him is "you have to do your job, and we need to get better."I feel like l'm listening to Dick Lebeau all over again.I've never seen a head coach bust out that stupid smile like he does after losing 4 of 5 games.How pathetic. Just sick of his arrogance and the mediocrity that people are accepting here these days. I don't even want to hear more excuses about injuries, as Chad said - that had nothing to do with why they lost the last two games at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'm not accepting mediocrityHopefully we'll find someone who wants to take Perry off our hands in the offseason.....some team that needs a running back who can't play special teams, can't do pass-blocking, and lacks anything remotely resembling toughness. 7th rounder would be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'm not accepting mediocrityHopefully we'll find someone who wants to take Perry off our hands in the offseason.....some team that needs a running back who can't play special teams, can't do pass-blocking, and lacks anything remotely resembling toughness. 7th rounder would be fineI guess you assume Watson is better? It was one of Perry's first return attempts. He'll get over it and come out on top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 No assumptions needed. He --IS-- better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Perry is the better player, Watson is more consistent. But kick returns were another way for Perry to get on the field and he should have taken better advantage of it. However, I think this thread is a tad overdoing it. But I sure would like DPM's analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Perry is the better player, Watson is more consistent. But kick returns were another way for Perry to get on the field and he should have taken better advantage of it. However, I think this thread is a tad overdoing it. But I sure would like DPM's analysis When was the last time Watson threw a good block picking up the blitz?he sucks anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Third string RB's don't get in the game much. But he's a staple on special teams. I never said he was good, just consistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Boy I wish I wasn't able to say "I told you so" to all the people that said Perry was the difference in this offense. Sadly they were partially right, Tab Perry not CHRIS Perry was the difference in this offense.So who else is missing Steven Jackson, Kevin Jones, Chris Gamble, Julious Jones, Karlos Dansby, Bob Sanders, ect.? I know I would trade Chris Perry for anyone on that list right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Chris Perry is a better running back than Kenny Watson.Hell, the man agreed to go out and return kicks... he's trying to contribute, and he did well when he held onto the ball. Fumbles happen, boo hoo. This one just happened to suck more than most. How about Carson "Butterfingers" Palmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Chris Perry is a better running back than Kenny Watson.Hell, the man agreed to go out and return kicks... he's trying to contribute, and he did well when he held onto the ball. Fumbles happen, boo hoo. This one just happened to suck more than most. How about Carson "Butterfingers" Palmer?You're right, fumbles happen. They just happen to Perry more than most.Carson has had trouble holding onto the ball as well (and while his fumbles are not realy his fault) he too needs (somewhat has already) to improve on holding the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cover2 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 We have been waiting on Chris Perry since he got here: first to sign, then to learn the offense.....not sure if he knows it yet, injuries, injuries, more injuries and now we are waiting on him to learn how to field and return kick-offs. The first time he got the ball he gave it away and in the second half he thought he wasback in college and used some bullsh*t move he learned in college and we got called for clipping, ten yards. He is a first round pick that has not rushed for 100 yds. once. How can anyone defend his ass. "He is better than Kenny Watson"? What the hell does that mean? He is suppose to be better than Watson.The guy need to earn his paycheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 We have been waiting on Chris Perry since he got here: first to sign, then to learn the offense.....not sure if he knows it yet, injuries, injuries, more injuries and now we are waiting on him to learn how to field and return kick-offs. The first time he got the ball he gave it away and in the second half he thought he wasback in college and used some bullsh*t move he learned in college and we got called for clipping, ten yards. He is a first round pick that has not rushed for 100 yds. once. How can anyone defend his ass. "He is better than Kenny Watson"? What the hell does that mean? He is suppose to be better than Watson.The guy need to earn his paycheck.The guy has a better chance of earning his pay check by serving beer and hotdogs in the stands than on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Chris Perry is a better running back than Kenny Watson.Nope. Not even close. Chris Perry has some value to this team split in the backfield as a receiver or lined up wide or in the slot but not as a RB. He just is not an NFL RB at this time and doesn't look like he will develop into one.I'd rather see the Bengals go ahead and use Rudi all downs. He's not the receiver either Watson or Perry is but he's shown some improvement this year. If he could blitz protect a little better, I'd think someone -- and it would probably take Marv who doesn't seem to suffer from Chris Perry delusions -- to make the call and let Rudi play the whole GD game on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 We can only hope he starts earning the monicker "No Carry Perry" soon - the sooner, the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinneymulleT Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 who's better(or worse) c p or Kajina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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