CPalmer9 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I remember hearing a lot about the Bengals and the City of Cincinnati arguing back and forth about building an indoor practice facility. I personally dont see why the Bengals, one of the few if any northern NFL teams, dont have one of these facilities. Could something like this be put on a ballot and voted on? Whats the story here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 1. It would cost Mikey a boat load of money vs. just busing the team to some facility already existing (in where, Mason or something like that?).2. If they build it building it downtown would make the most sense but with the whole Banks thing up in the air, where do you put it?3. Mikey, IMHO, really doesn't buy into the notion they need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 After all the issues with PBS, the Bengals and the County, do you REALLY think that the voters of Hamilton County would APPROVE such a measure?Are you kidding me?BTW, the facility that is all the rage is the "inflatable" bubble or whatever they call it. It is very inexpensive and quick to put in place. Marvin has talked about this kind of addition over the past couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPalmer9 Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 1. It would cost Mikey a boat load of money vs. just busing the team to some facility already existing (in where, Mason or something like that?).2. If they build it building it downtown would make the most sense but with the whole Banks thing up in the air, where do you put it?3. Mikey, IMHO, really doesn't buy into the notion they need one.Yeah they have practiced at Wall2Wall Sports, at least they did last year, and that place is nice and all but for an NFL Football team that place is a jokeFurthermore I do think that the voters of hamilton county would approve of an indoor facility that could just be built right next to the stadium where the current practice feilds are . Heck if local High Schools such as Indian Hill, CHCA, Kings, etc can put in million dollar turf feilds, im sure the Bengals can find local sponsors and businessmen alike that would be willing to give up money (and mikey should at least cover half the cost) I definatley feel this is a possiblity. Moeller High School has even offered to build giant million dollar stadium with turf feild at the current madeira high school stadium, Im sure an NFL football team can find it in their budget to put up a practice facilty for a team that is right now is more popular than the beetles...well in Cincy anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 If HC voters would fund an indoor practice facility, the bengals would have one tomorrow, I'm sure. But that hasnt been proposed; all the talk about building one involves doing so with the Bengals' own money.Would that really be the best use of dollars for a small market team? Debatable. And is it really necessary? Personally, I dont think so. Could it be a revenue source outside in and of itself? Yeah, sure, but isn't that really an argument for a rent-an-arena downtown? If that's viable, I'm surprised no one has done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPalmer9 Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The thing with me is that I definately feel that the bengals do need an indoor practice facility to properly compete with other teams that do have one. The Falcons practice today in a climate controled facilty and the bengals had to practice in a rainy 40 degree day. Yes I know that all games are not played in a climate control facilities matter of fact i dont think any games should be allowd to be played in a dome but the falcons were probably able to run a quickers smoother practice than the bengals did today...but when you assume you make and a$$ out of u and me...btw the forecast for sunday is 53 and sunny, so working in the rain today did them no good...build it, they will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 If HC voters would fund an indoor practice facility, the bengals would have one tomorrow, I'm sure. But that hasnt been proposed; all the talk about building one involves doing so with the Bengals' own money.Would that really be the best use of dollars for a small market team? Debatable. And is it really necessary? Personally, I dont think so. Could it be a revenue source outside in and of itself? Yeah, sure, but isn't that really an argument for a rent-an-arena downtown? If that's viable, I'm surprised no one has done it.Would building the practice facility be the best use of dollars for Hamilton County?I realize thats not what you are saying Hoosier. But every time this issue comes up, I think its ridiculous. The schools here suck, the Superintendent is a joke, the jail is overfilled and we want to build an indoor practice facility? I just dont see it as reasonable. People are already leaving the city at an alarming rate. Hire more cops, teachers, new administration. Just do something besides pour the money into the Bengals (who already got one of the best stadium deals in the NFL).Plus Brown made what in Profits last year? (Im sure well over 10 million) He can afford to put some money into the facility, but being mr. tight cheeks, there is no way in hell he will ever do that.BTW, I graduated from Indian Hill last year. Are $300,000 turf field was payed for mostly with private money. Not taxpayer money.I'm a huge Bengals' fan and a Hamilton county voter. I will never vote for an indoor practice facility. Mikey and the NFL make a ton of money, they can pay for it. Hamilton County has alof of problems, including but not limited to infrastructure. Put the money here first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Would building the practice facility be the best use of dollars for Hamilton County?I realize thats not what you are saying Hoosier. But every time this issue comes up, I think its ridiculous.Oh, I agree. IMHO, HC already paid way too much of the stadium costs as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The thing with me is that I definately feel that the bengals do need an indoor practice facility to properly compete with other teams that do have one. The Falcons practice today in a climate controled facilty and the bengals had to practice in a rainy 40 degree day. Yes I know that all games are not played in a climate control facilities matter of fact i dont think any games should be allowd to be played in a dome but the falcons were probably able to run a quickers smoother practice than the bengals did today...but when you assume you make and a$$ out of u and me...btw the forecast for sunday is 53 and sunny, so working in the rain today did them no good...build it, they will come What a bunch of f'ing pansies. Oh no, 50 degree weather! If you actually do anything to work up a sweat, 50 feels great. I'm not a Hamilton County taxpayer, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't be interested in paying for a bubble so millionaires can be comfy. I doubt any real competitive advantage of a bubble.I'd say that, if anything, teams that practice in nice conditions might be ill prepared for games that aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The thing with me is that I definately feel that the bengals do need an indoor practice facility to properly compete with other teams that do have one. The Falcons practice today in a climate controled facilty and the bengals had to practice in a rainy 40 degree day. Yes I know that all games are not played in a climate control facilities matter of fact i dont think any games should be allowd to be played in a dome but the falcons were probably able to run a quickers smoother practice than the bengals did today...but when you assume you make and a$$ out of u and me...btw the forecast for sunday is 53 and sunny, so working in the rain today did them no good...build it, they will come What a bunch of f'ing pansies. Oh no, 50 degree weather! If you actually do anything to work up a sweat, 50 feels great. I'm not a Hamilton County taxpayer, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't be interested in paying for a bubble so millionaires can be comfy. I doubt any real competitive advantage of a bubble.I'd say that, if anything, teams that practice in nice conditions might be ill prepared for games that aren't.My uncle, the Vikings fan, still remembers watching practices at the Met in December in the snow. He would have also laughed at the pansies who need an indoor facilty. Why not practice like you play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPalmer9 Posted October 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The thing with me is that I definately feel that the bengals do need an indoor practice facility to properly compete with other teams that do have one. The Falcons practice today in a climate controled facilty and the bengals had to practice in a rainy 40 degree day. Yes I know that all games are not played in a climate control facilities matter of fact i dont think any games should be allowd to be played in a dome but the falcons were probably able to run a quickers smoother practice than the bengals did today...but when you assume you make and a$$ out of u and me...btw the forecast for sunday is 53 and sunny, so working in the rain today did them no good...build it, they will come What a bunch of f'ing pansies. Oh no, 50 degree weather! If you actually do anything to work up a sweat, 50 feels great. I'm not a Hamilton County taxpayer, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't be interested in paying for a bubble so millionaires can be comfy. I doubt any real competitive advantage of a bubble.I'd say that, if anything, teams that practice in nice conditions might be ill prepared for games that aren't.My uncle, the Vikings fan, still remembers watching practices at the Met in December in the snow. He would have also laughed at the pansies who need an indoor facilty. Why not practice like you play?You can simply get more done inside where it is not raining and a more controlled environment...and I do hate dome stadiums, all football games should be played outside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The thing with me is that I definately feel that the bengals do need an indoor practice facility to properly compete with other teams that do have one. The Falcons practice today in a climate controled facilty and the bengals had to practice in a rainy 40 degree day. Yes I know that all games are not played in a climate control facilities matter of fact i dont think any games should be allowd to be played in a dome but the falcons were probably able to run a quickers smoother practice than the bengals did today...but when you assume you make and a$$ out of u and me...btw the forecast for sunday is 53 and sunny, so working in the rain today did them no good...build it, they will come What a bunch of f'ing pansies. Oh no, 50 degree weather! If you actually do anything to work up a sweat, 50 feels great. I'm not a Hamilton County taxpayer, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't be interested in paying for a bubble so millionaires can be comfy. I doubt any real competitive advantage of a bubble.I'd say that, if anything, teams that practice in nice conditions might be ill prepared for games that aren't.My uncle, the Vikings fan, still remembers watching practices at the Met in December in the snow. He would have also laughed at the pansies who need an indoor facilty. Why not practice like you play?Ironically, the Vikings do have an indoor facility. I don't understand why Minny doesn't have an outdoor stadium. It would be a huge advantage down the stretch.If anyone can get a bubble in HC, it's marvin(as long as it's funded by Mikey) Marvin, I think is about the only guy that could talk Mikey into one. Do I see it happening in the near future, well, it's iffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I believe it would cost the Bengals $2 million - not a big deal to them at all. They could conceivably build it over the existing turf field on their practice lot - which they never use any ways. Hell I don't care if they have to put a makeshift tarp over the stadium's field - do something for crying out loud.Brown has his team at a disadvantage to all the other teams who can conveniently practice, run, throw and kick any time they want, any time of year. Inexcusable IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 The Cleveland Browns were said to have built the nicest practice facility in the entire NFL. How's that working out for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I believe it would cost the Bengals $2 million - not a big deal to them at all. So you'd have to conclude that an indoor practice facility means almost nothing to the team, right? Here's some hard truth to chew on. If Hamilton County had paid for an indoor practice facility these message boards would be filled with posters pointing out correctly what a waste of money it was. They'd yammer endlessly about how often it sits idle, how the land could be put to better use, and how the school systems have suffered as a result. Little Tommy can't read!!! Instead, no facility was built so the boards fill with talk about how Mike Brown should waste his money. And when he doesn't, well....."I tell ya' it's an outrage." Then again, it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I believe it would cost the Bengals $2 million - not a big deal to them at all. So you'd have to conclude that an indoor practice facility means almost nothing to the team, right? Here's some hard truth to chew on. If Hamilton County had paid for an indoor practice facility these message boards would be filled with posters pointing out correctly what a waste of money it was. They'd yammer endlessly about how often it sits idle, how the land could be put to better use, and how the school systems have suffered as a result. Little Tommy can't read!!! Instead, no facility was built so the boards fill with talk about how Mike Brown should waste his money. And when he doesn't, well....."I tell ya' it's an outrage." Then again, it isn't.Huh? After the deal Brown got - I fully expect him to pay a pittance to provide an indoor facility for the cost of a 1-2 year contract of a single starting, mediocre player's salary. This is a long term/permanent investment, for the price of signing a Dexter Jackson or Kevin Hardy for a year.I don't see what the issue nor the confusion here is about - it's about a tight a$$ed owner not stepping up while he's swimming in money to provide his players an advantage every other competing team has.I just can't find an excuse for not doing that. The obstacles are minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I just can't find an excuse for not doing that. The obstacles are minor. Thus, the incentives must not be as strong as you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I don't even want one. Let the team practice under harsh conditions if they have to... it can only be beneficial when those conditions show up again during gametime. They'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPalmer9 Posted October 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I don't even want one. Let the team practice under harsh conditions if they have to... it can only be beneficial when those conditions show up again during gametime. They'll be fine.I dont see how it can be beneficial when you have your Franchise player practicing on slippery wet feild all week and when sunday comes around its pefect football weather (50 and sunny) Or how it can be beneficial when you have a top ten pick left tackle trying to work out his ankle/knee problems on a slippery rainy feild..when its all said and done its really a pretty cheap endeavor to build an indor practice facilityIf Mikey doesnt want to pay for the place, and lord knows he doesnt, just ask kahns hotdog, blue grass quality meats etc for a little jack to fund the place and they can call it the hotdog for all i care....just get the place built and keep the bengals on a level playing feild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Charging as much as they do for concessions and seats, they should have plenty of money. That's why I don't go to very many games anymore and get mad everytime I do. $6 for a beer is the same thing as robbing a man. It sickens me to even think that Mikey would try to get Hamilton County to pay for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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