Stripes Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I thought the Bucs were more consistent on both sides of the football throughout the game, and they played better when it mattered most.The call may have changed the outcome, but I don't think it would have been a satisfying win. Coming off of an embarassing loss at home, the Bengals should have played with a fire today. They didn't, and henceforth allowed an energized, scrappy little Bucs team to beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 The QB did land on his head, but he was already angled in that direction and Justin was coming in low. There was no way to tackle the QB without forcing him to go head-first. The guy still had the ball and Justin didn't go high towards his head. It was just a typical, legal sack. It would seem that if the QB puts his head down while holding on to the ball, you need to come to a complete stop, step to the QB's side, and gently push him over and hope that he hits the ground.As for the penalty, it was a personal foul, so I think the 15 yards is walked off from the line of scrimage. Minus 8 became plus 15. Net gain 23 yards.Did they try reveiwing it or did they give marvin it can't be reveiwed cramp?They fine players after a game ,they should really start punishing refs for bad calls.No matter what happens, you never blame officials for a loss. It might have a bearing on the game, but you take your lumps and move on. If more was done in the first 58 minutes of the game, we would have won.I agree in sense (marvin) that you should put your self in postion to win so you dont lose game because 1 or 2 bad calls...though it was nothing players could do to prevent this play he sacked em what is suppossed grab him and still throw the damn pass.I thought the Bucs were more consistent on both sides of the football throughout the game, and they played better when it mattered most.The call may have changed the outcome, but I don't think it would have been a satisfying win. Coming off of an embarassing loss at home, the Bengals should have played with a fire today. They didn't, and henceforth allowed an energized, scrappy little Bucs team to beat them.It woulden't have been statisfying but it may count alot when comes playoff time with our scheadule =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 If the Bengals miss the playoffs, I'll look right back to this game. The refs won't be anywhere in my brain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I agree with bengals should have played better to win.but they still deserved to win more then the bucs justin made the play to win the game in crunch time still got screwed.What is done is done and bengals should have that more fire in them to recover from this if they dont well will be picking higher in draft then we thought and hopfully can get help we need =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I thought the Bucs were more consistent on both sides of the football throughout the game, and they played better when it mattered most.The call may have changed the outcome, but I don't think it would have been a satisfying win. Coming off of an embarassing loss at home, the Bengals should have played with a fire today. They didn't, and henceforth allowed an energized, scrappy little Bucs team to beat them.I'd rather have an unsatisfying win than a loss that makes you feel like something was stolen from you. The Bengals didn't play great, but they did play good enough to win this game. I usually don't think too much about bad calls in a game, but this game really left a bad taste...This is the first time I've definately thought the refs changed the outcome of a Bengals game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 We had a close low scoring game with texans last season,Just because we should scored more pts doesnt mean we shoulden't have won it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 We had a close low scoring game with texans last season,Just because we should scored more pts doesnt mean we shoulden't have won it.Yeah, and that game was put to rest on a bad call on a David Carr "fumble" that wasn't a fumble.We were lucky to win that game, and luck isn't always on our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I thought the Bucs were more consistent on both sides of the football throughout the game, and they played better when it mattered most.The call may have changed the outcome, but I don't think it would have been a satisfying win. Coming off of an embarassing loss at home, the Bengals should have played with a fire today. They didn't, and henceforth allowed an energized, scrappy little Bucs team to beat them.I'd rather have an unsatisfying win than a loss that makes you feel like something was stolen from you. The Bengals didn't play great, but they did play good enough to win this game. I usually don't think too much about bad calls in a game, but this game really left a bad taste...This is the first time I've definately thought the refs changed the outcome of a Bengals game.Hopefully this will be marked as a turning point in the season. Obviously the players did not take the NE loss all that seriously, nor did it make them really mad, mad enough to come out and do something about it.Maybe this will.At least we do not have to wait 2 weeks to find out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZBot Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 A regular sack is now against the rules in football. There was no blow to the head, no piledrive, not even much of a hit—but of course it did result in a fumble that we recovered, seemingly icing the game. Source: http://www.bengalszone.com/article.php?sid=470 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Sorry, I don't agree. Excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Puleeeze. Let's stop investing in conspiracy theories and play some football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I thought the Bucs were more consistent on both sides of the football throughout the game, and they played better when it mattered most.The call may have changed the outcome, but I don't think it would have been a satisfying win. Coming off of an embarassing loss at home, the Bengals should have played with a fire today. They didn't, and henceforth allowed an energized, scrappy little Bucs team to beat them.I'd rather have an unsatisfying win than a...Certainly, any win is a good thing. I'd have been happy with it. "Satisfying" was a poor word choice on my part. I mean that, IMO, had the Bengals won that game, it would have been more the result of lucky circumstance than either team's performance on the field.The Bengals didn't play great, but they did play good enough to win this game. I usually don't think too much about bad calls in a game, but this game really left a bad taste...I'd say both teams played well enough to win, but the Bucs played just a little bit better... and that was reflected on the scoreboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Semantics people. It IS possible to agree that that call was beyond atrocious and agree that it had a profound impact on the outcome of that game while still acknowledging that in a perfect world the Bengals are not in a position to get hosed in that manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Semantics people. It IS possible to agree that that call was beyond atrocious and agree that it had a profound impact on the outcome of that game while still acknowledging that in a perfect world the Bengals are not in a position to get hosed in that manner.Agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B24 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I'd say both teams played well enough to win, but the Bucs played just a little bit better... and that was reflected on the scoreboard.I'd say both teams played about the same and the Bucs got the break of the game that put them over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 A regular sack is now against the rules in football. There was no blow to the head, no piledrive, not even much of a hit—but of course it did result in a fumble that we recovered, seemingly icing the game. Source: http://www.bengalszone.com/article.php?sid=470BZ, Chris Mortensen was on the pregame show tonight and said that basically the league has given the refs a mandate to protect the QBs. His quote was "if in doubt, throw the flag." Like Carson said, how can you have an unsportsmanlike call on a sack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Thank you Wilbon!Did anyone else watch PTI today? He went off. He yelled about how an offense will have an off day from time to time, and you have to rely on your defense to win you the game. He said the Bengals did that, but the refs took it from them.If you missed it, you need to watch it. It was a thing of beauty. I don't often see Wilbon get that worked up... and he had nothing emotionally invested in the outcome of this game. Proof that the call was complete bulls**t, and the timing of it cost us the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboat Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Thank you Wilbon!Did anyone else watch PTI today? He went off. He yelled about how an offense will have an off day from time to time, and you have to rely on your defense to win you the game. He said the Bengals did that, but the refs took it from them.If you missed it, you need to watch it. It was a thing of beauty. I don't often see Wilbon get that worked up... and he he nothing emotionally invested in the outcome of this game. Proof that the call was complete bulls**t, and the timing of it cost us the game. I couldn't agree more ! I don't see why people are so worried about not making excuses it cost us the game ! Why is stating the obvious making excuses or whining? The Qb never even hit the ground ,he landed on Smith & fumbled we recovered the fumble the D made the play to win & got screwed plain & simple.Having said that what's done is done on to Carolina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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