SkinneymulleT Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 2 Things guys, Odell is a cancer and bad influence. With the current Nazi enviroment in the NFL, I have oficialy on the get rid of him bandwagon. This guy could get others suspended. With that being said itcould be Henry that is thebad apple. These guys are stoners. If anyone remebers My post about the Stoner circle of playas. We stoners always makelittle groups. The real ? is who is in the group? Odell,Henry, and Mcneal. Arelocks.This from guy who lives in a country where all you have to do roll down to the local plaza and pick up a chocolate bar of hash and no one cares....and think if Odell, who may not have played at all this year, let C. H. drive instead where would we be?... without a major weapon on offense...Odell is a true team player all the way. Jumped on the nade for his buddys. Unemployed maybe....but cancer after 1 arrest? Bah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 For those who are not Insiders, a copy of the article has been posted over on nflfans.com: http://www.nflfans.com/x/showthread.php?p=89999#poststopExactly as I said to those in denial even before Marvin's press conference: Odell is done here. It's sad, unfortunate, frustrating...all those things and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Society at large has made the call to allow certain indulgences under certain circumstances.And that's where the mind numbing hypocricy starts, and my respect for the "calls" that society makes ends.So...leave.Really, if it bugs you that that booze is legal and pot isn't...go find someplace with more liberal drug laws and move there.Or...get off your tush, run for office and seek to change the law.Frankly, I don't have a problem with the status quo. Does it make sense? Of course not. But no one said it had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Really, if it bugs you that that booze is legal and pot isn't...go find someplace with more liberal drug laws and move there.Nah. I could really care less either way. The only thing that really bugs me is like I said...hypocricy. Unfortunately laws have been, and will continue to be built on such stupidity. It's a human condition, and likely will continue to be found no matter where you may go.I think my problem is with laws PERIOD. It seems they're always askin' to be broken, and I'm always happy to oblige. Can I get an AAhmen for the brother! A Haleluia!Easy on the Amens and Haleluias my Bengal Bretheren. I'm not exactly what you should consider a role model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackstem Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Unfortunately, this is what chemical dependency does to a person.Yet alcohol remains legal. Explain that one. By the way, your link fails to impress us!I could care less if the link fails to impress anyone. What does the fact that alcohol is legal have to do with Thurman and Henry? Are you implying that since alcohol is legal someone can't become addicted to it? These two men are gifted athletes and I would love to see them play for the Bengals. But their behavior since last season is diagnostic of 2 people with chemical dependency. As I said before, if these 2 guys don't get help, they will end up like Stanley Wilson, or worse. There are actually some things more important than football, although there are people who don't seem to understand that. There behavior is not only detrimental to themselves, but to the team and their families as well. I have seen far too many people destroy their lives and the lives of those who care for them by abusing alcohol and other mood altering substances. The "I don't care what they do off of the football field as long as they help us win" attitude shows not only a lack of understanding about chemical dependency, it shows a lack of compassion as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackstem Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Unfortunately, this is what chemical dependency does to a person.Yet alcohol remains legal. Explain that one. So does smoking tobacco. Society at large has made the call to allow certain indulgences under certain circumstances. Not being able to restrict your usage to those circumstances is a sign of a problem. Jackstem is right, IMHO, although I take bit of an issue with his closing comment that someone has to force their attention to the issue. As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. The guys who will decide how this all ultimately plays out are Odell and Henry.Hoosiercat,Interventions are performed everyday with people who refuse to acknowledge they have a problem. A group of people who care about the person point out specific behaviors and activities hoping to break through the wall of denial the abuser has built over time. By forcing them to look at what other people see and experience as a result of their continued abuse of alcohol or drugs, the people involved in the intervention hope the individual will agree to enter treatment. It's a method of creating a "bottom" for the abuser instead of waiting until they have lost everything or injure themselves or others.Research shows that folks who enter treatment after an intervention have recovery rates similar to those who enter treatment on their own. In fact, if they enter treatment early in the disease process, before significant alterations in brain physiology and function occur, they have a much higher long term recovery rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Spain called someone a stoner as well... That's some funny sh*t !!!WHODEY !!!Yeah, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Research shows that folks who enter treatment after an intervention have recovery rates similar to those who enter treatment on their own.I'm sure they do. But my point is that a person can also ignore an intervention. If a person isn't ready or willing to admit they have a problem, progress isn't very likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackstem Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Research shows that folks who enter treatment after an intervention have recovery rates similar to those who enter treatment on their own.I'm sure they do. But my point is that a person can also ignore an intervention. If a person isn't ready or willing to admit they have a problem, progress isn't very likely.You're right, they may leave before treatment is finished, or simply reject it all together. Does that mean we don't try? As the saying goes, "You never have a chance to make the shot if you never take it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hoosiercat,Interventions are performed everyday with people who refuse to acknowledge they have a problem.Sometimes those instances are called abductions and hostage situations. It all depends on your point of view. You, Mr. Stem, are a part of this great hypocricy. If someone walks up to you and asks you for help, by all means, give it. To forcefully hijack someones life isn't right. IMHO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackstem Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Hoosiercat,Interventions are performed everyday with people who refuse to acknowledge they have a problem.Sometimes those instances are called abductions and hostage situations. It all depends on your point of view. You, Mr. Stem, are a part of this great hypocricy. If someone walks up to you and asks you for help, by all means, give it. To forcefully hijack someones life isn't right. IMHO of course.Even when the person is endangering his life and the life of others? No one abducts anyone. The individual is called to a meeting where employer, colleagues, friends and family tell them how their chemical use is affecting the business and relationships. They are offered the choice of entering treatment or termination. The family tells them how their relationships will change if they choose not to enter treatment. People who are addicts/alcoholics have significant alterations in brain structure and chemistry making it almost impossible to make rational decisions about their chemical abuse.I guess your method for dealing with someone who is abusing mood altering substances to the detriment of their physical health, adversely affecting their employers business, and placing the welfare of their family and the public in danger is to simply ignore them. I hope you or your family aren't killed or seriously injured by the addict or alcoholic because no one had the guts and compassion to intervene before a fatal incident occurs. Based on some of the posts it appears this topic hits a little too close to home for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 How is koren not missing any time but odell gets a year....and koren was going 100 freaking miles and actually risking someones life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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