Article on Odell and Henry

[rishipatel]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col...&id=2607140

It's an Insider article, so some may not be able to open the link.

Interesting info though...it states that the Bengals front office got the NFL to fast track the ruling on Odell and basically says that the Bengals were secretly happy not to have to deal with Odell this season. It says that they were glad to put him down for the season since they basically didn't want the headache of the decision on Monday since they were apparently planning to sideline him for the yr anyway. So this way he doesn't take a roster spot.

And it mentions Henry as well. Basically that both the Florida case and the Kenton County case are reviewing the documents from Odell's arrest b/c Henry could be in violation of his probation for Florida, and as mentioned on the site already, it violates his bond in Kenton County. That could mean that Henry gets benched for a few games at some point this season depending on what they can prove he did that nt.

All in all though, it states that the Bengals and the League consider this team a legit Superbowl contender and that even though the League made its ruling on Odell quickly, nothing was inapproprately handled. May have saved the team from more of a distraction this yr with Odell in the long run.

WHO-DEY!

[DesperateDerelict]

Thank God for "Due Process"!

I will not defend Odell for his DWB (Driving While Blind), nor Chris for his decision-making, but I'll fight to the death to defend their rights to defend themselves. Capiche?

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Thank God for "Due Process"!

I will not defend Odell for his DWB (Driving While Blind), nor Chris for his decision-making, but I'll fight to the death to defend their rights to defend themselves. Capiche?

Yeah, and no one's questioning that. However, as an employer, I think the Bengals want that kind of crap out of the way, and I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to work with retards like that.

[BTG]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col...&id=2607140

And it mentions Henry as well. Basically that both the Florida case and the Kenton County case are reviewing the documents from Odell's arrest b/c Henry could be in violation of his probation for Florida, and as mentioned on the site already, it violates his bond in Kenton County. That could mean that Henry gets benched for a few games at some point this season depending on what they can prove he did that nt.

I fail to see how Henry did anything wrong just by being in the car. Maybe Thurman is a very cognizant drunk and he didn't know.

[Kazkal]

TJ was just on rome saying he wants odell back and he makes the team better,that hopfully he'll be able to get his off the field stuff cleaned up.

[BlainThePain]

TJ was just on rome saying he wants odell back and he makes the team better,that hopfully he'll be able to get his off the field stuff cleaned up.

No doubt the team is better with him and I want him back. Lawrence Taylor had a lot of off the field problems that puts Odell's to shame, but I would take LT in a heartbeat.

[scott91575]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col...&id=2607140

And it mentions Henry as well. Basically that both the Florida case and the Kenton County case are reviewing the documents from Odell's arrest b/c Henry could be in violation of his probation for Florida, and as mentioned on the site already, it violates his bond in Kenton County. That could mean that Henry gets benched for a few games at some point this season depending on what they can prove he did that nt.

I fail to see how Henry did anything wrong just by being in the car. Maybe Thurman is a very cognizant drunk and he didn't know.

I'm not quite sure of the conditions of Henry's bond, but I am sure there is a stipulation that he is not involved in any illegal activity. Seems like a stretch, but it is still stupid to go out, get hammered, and get into a car with a drunk driver while under bond.

[CantStop85]

I fail to see how Henry did anything wrong just by being in the car.

He didn't do anything wrong under normal circumstances. However, Henry's on probation, and being publicly intoxicated isn't exactly encouraged.

[scott91575]

I fail to see how Henry did anything wrong just by being in the car.

He didn't do anything wrong under normal circumstances. However, Henry's on probation, and being publicly intoxicated isn't exactly encouraged.

Which county is investigating (such a sad statement)? If it involves his drunk driving, and he has been convicted...I can't keep track. Then he is not allowed to even touch alcohol while under probation, let alone being intoxicated while in the passenger seat of a car driven by a drunk driver.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col...&id=2607140

And it mentions Henry as well. Basically that both the Florida case and the Kenton County case are reviewing the documents from Odell's arrest b/c Henry could be in violation of his probation for Florida, and as mentioned on the site already, it violates his bond in Kenton County. That could mean that Henry gets benched for a few games at some point this season depending on what they can prove he did that nt.

I fail to see how Henry did anything wrong just by being in the car. Maybe Thurman is a very cognizant drunk and he didn't know.

I'm not quite sure of the conditions of Henry's bond, but I am sure there is a stipulation that he is not involved in any illegal activity. Seems like a stretch, but it is still stupid to go out, get hammered, and get into a car with a drunk driver while under bond.

Cops could call it public intox if they really wanted to be a**h***s about it. A stretch, yes, but I've heard of people getting PI while in a car stopped by the cops. And puking on a pig could definitely a PI from that. But if charges haven't been filed by now, I imagine they won't be.

It would be tough for a judge letting that count as his parole violation.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Henry violated two probations - that's what he did wrong.

He did it publicly. If you want to get trashed - stay at home and don't drive - I don't understand what is so hard to understand about this. Unfortunately pro athletes literally do often think they're not human or bound by our laws.

It's simple responsible behavior - Odell and Henry haven't figured this out yet. When/if they do - great for all of us.

[GregCook]

Heny is already under court order to restrict his behavior and most likely it governs alcohol consumption. Do we all remember the Commish was in town and Henry had a sitdown to plead his case? Well this latest Henry B.S. won't help with that. Figure Henry gets a suspension of a few weeks. Thank you DASS Odell, days away from being able to PLAY.

Now that the Bengals are short on line backers, we can hope nobody else goes down. Remember Odell could have been back in October, now probably never. Thats the bi***tch here. Odell, Henry, Rucker, Pollack they all will be missed sooner or later during the season.

[SkinneymulleT]

Thank God for "Due Process"!

I will not defend Odell for his DWB (Driving While Blind), nor Chris for his decision-making, but I'll fight to the death to defend their rights to defend themselves. Capiche?

Yeah, and no one's questioning that. However, as an employer, I think the Bengals want that kind of crap out of the way, and I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to work with retards like that.

Please tell me what non governmental employer would do anything to either of these kids. Most employers never know if an employee is arrested for dui(provided your not a driver for you living), smokes grass(as long as they pass thier initial drug screen), carries a concealed weapon, buys beer for some northern kentucky street urchins, rapes, murders, arsons, rapes as long as the employee comes to work and does a good job. These are a couple of kids from nowhere who have had sh!t thier whole life and are living it up. They made a couple of bad choices, but again if its not the nfl who cares? And I know.... I like rape....and apparently so does frosty rucker!

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Thank God for "Due Process"!

I will not defend Odell for his DWB (Driving While Blind), nor Chris for his decision-making, but I'll fight to the death to defend their rights to defend themselves. Capiche?

Yeah, and no one's questioning that. However, as an employer, I think the Bengals want that kind of crap out of the way, and I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to work with retards like that.

Please tell me what non governmental employer would do anything to either of these kids. Most employers never know if an employee is arrested for dui(provided your not a driver for you living), smokes grass(as long as they pass thier initial drug screen), carries a concealed weapon, buys beer for some northern kentucky street urchins, rapes, murders, arsons, rapes as long as the employee comes to work and does a good job. These are a couple of kids from nowhere who have had sh!t thier whole life and are living it up. They made a couple of bad choices, but again if its not the nfl who cares? And I know.... I like rape....and apparently so does frosty rucker!

Good God, cue the water works! Boo f'ing hoo! I bet other kids these morons grew up with manage to stay out if jail. And these turds have been coddled since high school because they can play football.

And another hint: Odell isn't "living it up." I believe he's addicted. As for Henry: driving stoned/drunk isn't living it up, it's called stupidity. Waving a gun? He's lucky that didn't end up being suicide. The puking on a cop would have been funny otherwise, I have to say.

And I tell you right now, a ton of employers care about crap like this. Mine, for instance.

I'll grant you one thing...these guys aren't even in Frostee's league as far as crime goes.

[jackstem]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col...&id=2607140

And it mentions Henry as well. Basically that both the Florida case and the Kenton County case are reviewing the documents from Odell's arrest b/c Henry could be in violation of his probation for Florida, and as mentioned on the site already, it violates his bond in Kenton County. That could mean that Henry gets benched for a few games at some point this season depending on what they can prove he did that nt.

I fail to see how Henry did anything wrong just by being in the car. Maybe Thurman is a very cognizant drunk and he didn't know.

The behavior exhibited by Thurman and Henry is stereotypical of the chemically dependent (addict/alcoholic). They continue to "use" despite negative consequences in their lives as a result of their use. And if the loss of almost $400,000 ISN'T a negative consequence, I don't know what is! Henry has apparently violated his agreements with The Miami-Dade court as well as the Kenton County court. If these guys don't get into treatment and begin working a solid program of recovery, they will end up like Stanley Wilson, Sr.

From Wikipedia Wikipedia.

"Inarguably, the most notorious instance of Wilson's relapse into cocaine usage was on the eve of Super Bowl XXIII, where the Bengals were to play the San Francisco 49ers. On the evening of January 21, 1989, Stanley Wilson was found on the floor of his Miami hotel room by running backs coach Jim Anderson. Wilson was unconscious. Bengals head coach Sam Wyche had little choice but to leave him off the roster.

Later, Stanley Wilson was permanently banned from the NFL.

In the years after his relapse and banishment, Wilson was in and out of rehabilitation on several occasions. In 1999, he was convicted of stealing $130,000 in property from a Beverly Hills, California home to support his habit. He was sentenced to 22 years in Lancaster, California state prison for burglary. During his trial, Wilson's lawyer contended that Wilson suffers from bipolar disorder."

Until someone forces them to look at this, they certainly won't do it by themselves. These guys are so damned talented! It's a shame to see them waste their God given talents. Unfortunately, this is what chemical dependency does to a person.

[SkinneymulleT]

Thank God for "Due Process"!

I will not defend Odell for his DWB (Driving While Blind), nor Chris for his decision-making, but I'll fight to the death to defend their rights to defend themselves. Capiche?

Yeah, and no one's questioning that. However, as an employer, I think the Bengals want that kind of crap out of the way, and I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to work with retards like that.

Please tell me what non governmental employer would do anything to either of these kids. Most employers never know if an employee is arrested for dui(provided your not a driver for you living), smokes grass(as long as they pass thier initial drug screen), carries a concealed weapon, buys beer for some northern kentucky street urchins, rapes, murders, arsons, rapes as long as the employee comes to work and does a good job. These are a couple of kids from nowhere who have had sh!t thier whole life and are living it up. They made a couple of bad choices, but again if its not the nfl who cares? And I know.... I like rape....and apparently so does frosty rucker!

Good God, cue the water works! Boo f'ing hoo! I bet other kids these morons grew up with manage to stay out if jail. And these turds have been coddled since high school because they can play football.

And another hint: Odell isn't "living it up." I believe he's addicted. As for Henry: driving stoned/drunk isn't living it up, it's called stupidity. Waving a gun? He's lucky that didn't end up being suicide. The puking on a cop would have been funny otherwise, I have to say.

And I tell you right now, a ton of employers care about crap like this. Mine, for instance.

I'll grant you one thing...these guys aren't even in Frostee's league as far as crime goes.

Now they are morons because they are poor black kids? Please. And they are addicted? To what? You seem to have all the inside information to condem these young 23 year old kids, so tell me what they use and how long and why this constitutes addiction... And FYI they managed to stay out of jail until....they got lots of money, something alot of poor children dont gave and thus do not face such temptation or dont get the spot light on them when they screw up. And its not like they are the "grey goose" maurice clarett...they smoked a weed, I mean the last 2 presidents smoked grass, snorted coke, exposed themselve and never got caught! and got a DUI, cheated on thier wife ect....Ted Kennedy f'ing killed someone and he's in the senate. Dick Chaney shot someone while hunting without a license. I went to good schools, have a good job, make good money and I have done some of the same things they have (besides teddy and frostee of course), but didnt get caught. I mean who hasnt driven after they have had a drink? Oh, I know you were fine and they were not right?....Is there a difference? Should I be fired even though I do a good job and pose no additional risks to anyone at work?And if you get arrested for DUI your not likely to lose your job in any employment situation. And the weapons charge was not for waiving a gun or assault, it was for possesing a concealed weapon. Why not stop trying to hold these young athletes up to a high standard than you do the presidents, senators, and likely a number of your own friends and family! The NFL should stay out of the personal lives of the players other then performace enhancing drugs(which they for the most part ignore).

[aaronburr]

Please tell me what non governmental employer would do anything to either of these kids. Most employers never know if an employee is arrested for dui(provided your not a driver for you living), smokes grass(as long as they pass thier initial drug screen), carries a concealed weapon, buys beer for some northern kentucky street urchins, rapes, murders, arsons, rapes as long as the employee comes to work and does a good job. These are a couple of kids from nowhere who have had sh!t thier whole life and are living it up. They made a couple of bad choices, but again if its not the nfl who cares? And I know.... I like rape....and apparently so does frosty rucker!

Who cares what other employers would do. Odell and Henry work for the NFL. The rules are different and they know it. If they don't want to follow the rules, they don't get to "work" for the NFL.

I mean who hasnt driven after they have had a drink? Oh, I know you were fine and they were not right?....Is there a difference? Should I be fired even though I do a good job and pose no additional risks to anyone at work?

A drink? They drank enough to double the legal limit. While both were on probation. And if your employer tells you when you sign their contract that you will be fired for breaking the law, then yes, you should be fired.

Let's keep in mind that:

(a) these guys are represented by a very powerful union

(b ) the rules that we're talking about are the result of very real problems with players abusing their bodies

(c ) if these rules were not in place and players were allowed to run amok in our communities, flaunting the drug and alcohol laws, the NFL wouldn't be what it is today. It wouldn't be as popular, players wouldn't make as much money, and the fans wouldn't like the players as much.

When it comes to punishment by the NFL, I don't feel sorry for Odell and Henry.

[Spain]

2 Things guys, Odell is a cancer and bad influence. With the current Nazi enviroment in the NFL, I have oficialy on the get rid of him bandwagon. This guy could get others suspended.

With that being said itcould be Henry that is thebad apple. These guys are stoners. If anyone remebers My post about the Stoner circle of playas. We stoners always makelittle groups. The real ? is who is in the group? Odell,Henry, and Mcneal. Arelocks.

[Kazkal]

JARED ALLEN "SHOULD BE IN JAIL"

A league source with responsibility for screening and selecting college players firmly believes that Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen, arrested twice for DUI this year, should not be walking among the members of a free society.

"The guy should be in jail," said the source.

A fourth round selection of the Chiefs in 2004, Allen was off of many draft boards at that time, per the source.

"Loose cannon," the source added. "Lots of fights, bar incidents . . . . Surprised it's taken him this long to get in trouble."

And due to Allen's reputation for liking to do more at bars than just fight, the source feared that Allen ultimate would "end up in an overturned SUV, bloodied and sauced."

How right the source was. Even though Allen got a free pass for his first DUI of the year, his latest arrest surely violates the terms of the diversion program he entered in July, which requires him not to drink or to violate the law.

And Allen knows it -- why else would he have refused to submit to either a field sobriety test or a breathalyzer exam?

For a full history on Allen, check out this January 2005 article from the Kansas City Star, reprinted on the official athletic site of Idaho State University, where Allen played college football. (Memo to the Potato boys -- he's not someone to be proud of.)

Allen landed at ISU because the University of Washington rescinded its scholarship offer after he was kicked out of high school for stealing yearbooks. It wasn't the only time he got in trouble as a youth.

"I like to fight," Allen told the Star regarding his rap sheet for bar fights. He claims that he "rumbled" almost every weekend. There were issues of violated probation, and questions of whether he assaulted a police officer.

He was on his last straw in college, and he turned it around. Now, he's getting close to pissing it all away again.

You know, if we ever find ourselves on the wrong side of the law, we sure hope we get as many second chances and benefits of the doubt as some of these pro atheltes seem to enjoy. We realize that the prisons are overcrowded, but every once in a while it's important to make an example out of someone in order to let the rest of us know that there are consequences for misconduct.

Given his history and his failure to truly learn from past mistakes, we think it's time for Allen to spend a season or two with the Mean Machine.

Odell doesnt seem as bad now

2 Things guys, Odell is a cancer and bad influence. With the current Nazi enviroment in the NFL, I have oficialy on the get rid of him bandwagon. This guy could get others suspended.

With that being said itcould be Henry that is thebad apple. These guys are stoners. If anyone remebers My post about the Stoner circle of playas. We stoners always makelittle groups. The real ? is who is in the group? Odell,Henry, and Mcneal. Arelocks.

Spain is calling Odell a cancer?

[BengalszoneBilly]

Unfortunately, this is what chemical dependency does to a person.

Yet alcohol remains legal. Explain that one. By the way, your link fails to impress us!

[HoosierCat]

Unfortunately, this is what chemical dependency does to a person.

Yet alcohol remains legal. Explain that one.

So does smoking tobacco. Society at large has made the call to allow certain indulgences under certain circumstances. Not being able to restrict your usage to those circumstances is a sign of a problem. Jackstem is right, IMHO, although I take bit of an issue with his closing comment that someone has to force their attention to the issue. As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. The guys who will decide how this all ultimately plays out are Odell and Henry.

FWIW I was watching the halftime show during the Purdue/ND game and Peter King was on. On the subject of Thurman, King reported that the Bengals had had it with Odell's behavior and that he would never wear a Bengals uniform again. Which seems to jibe pretty well wit the ESPN reports. I guess well see.

[Kazkal]

ya but their just jumping on the bengals bandwagon so they really don't know whats going on

[ArmyBengal]

Spain called someone a stoner as well... That's some funny sh*t !!!

WHODEY !!!

[BengalszoneBilly]

Society at large has made the call to allow certain indulgences under certain circumstances.

And that's where the mind numbing hypocricy starts, and my respect for the "calls" that society makes ends. Alcohol kills thousands upon thousands of people every month. Pot? I really doubt that pot can boast such figures, EVER. Yet "Society" protects us from pot by making it illegal, but not alcohol. Thats plain nonsense that I cannot stand by and not point out as to it's obvious lunacy! The whole "system" is forever bent and skewered and needs to be cast aside on the trash heap of their so called morality.

Is this thread over due for an appearance in another forum or WHAT!?!

[SkinneymulleT]

Society at large has made the call to allow certain indulgences under certain circumstances.

And that's where the mind numbing hypocricy starts, and my respect for the "calls" that society makes ends. Alcohol kills thousands upon thousands of people every month. Pot? I really doubt that pot can boast such figures, EVER. Yet "Society" protects us from pot by making it illegal, but not alcohol. Thats plain nonsense that I cannot stand by and not point out as to it's obvious lunacy! The whole "system" is forever bent and skewered and needs to be cast aside on the trash heap of their so called morality.

Is this thread over due for an appearance in another forum or WHAT!?!

Can I get an AAhmen for the brother! A Haleluia!